Gun control through ammo and components

BobbyS · 03-03-2013, 16:36

Does anyone think our wonderful leaders in Washington have anything to do with the shortage of ammo and ammo components?

BenjiEDF · 03-03-2013, 17:00

Other than the panic buying by the DHS (over 2 billion rounds) no, not really.

Gunnut 45/454 · 03-03-2013, 19:23

Well Old Chuck Shumer got Wally World to stop selling AR's in NY! So I wouldn't be a bit surprised they are not putting the screws to anyone who doesn't support the gun grabbing sceem. Lets see they got BoA bank not loaning money to gun/ammo manufactures! I'm sure there alot of behind the scenes crap that we don't see either!

Dawolf · 03-03-2013, 19:36

I would not put it past them, but are they smart enough?

CanMan · 03-03-2013, 21:03

Directly or indirectly, yes. I just watched a show about ARMSCOR in the Philippines.... IIRC they said they could produce a million rounds daily. I'm not sure if this is all the ammo produced by them or just .22 LR. 1000M = 1B, right.
DHS snagged 2B from somewhere. Heck, we're behind the curve already.

NMPOPS · 03-03-2013, 21:15

Any thing is possible and it is a fact that the Gov. is buying a lot of ammo. Back in 02/03 my Dept had to cut back on live ammo training for awhile because we had trouble getting ammo. The distributor said then it was because of Military contracts.

BenjiEDF · 03-03-2013, 21:24

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Originally Posted by NMPOPS

Any thing is possible and it is a fact that the Gov. is buying a lot of ammo. Back in 02/03 my Dept had to cut back on live ammo training for awhile because we had trouble getting ammo. The distributor said then it was because of Military contracts.

We invaded Iraq in March of 2003, so that actually makes sense.

SleeperSS · 03-03-2013, 21:27

I pick up and deliver to Silver State Armory and they are running two shifts producing long gun ammo. They are churning this stuff out at an incredible pace. It's not like they have a shortage of materials.

FloorPoor · 03-03-2013, 21:39

Mostly supply and demand right now, but if they were able to stop production of primers and propellants it would pretty much shut things down in a hurry.

I am concerned what the prices will be after this all settles down. Remember in 07 when 1000 rds of 9mm was $150?
After the 08 scare it settled at $250+. 500 rd boxes of .22lr went from $5-7 for the cheap stuff to $20. I'm sure some of the increase was due to an increase in price of raw materials (inflation is a *****) but not all of it. I think manufacturers saw what the market will bear.....so what will the prices be next year?

triggerjerk · 03-04-2013, 08:18

No.
Panic buyers. I have personally witnessed couples load up armfuls of overpriced ammo at once at my lgs.
I was traveling the other day and stopped in at a cabelas and struck up a conversation with one of the managers. He told me he gets 4-5 pallets of ammo every day.
He says people are waiting for it and everything is gone by noon.

cesaros · 03-04-2013, 08:42

They wouldn't directly dirty their hands with it...but Washington can certainly start a chain of events that leads to where we are going....they start the panic and we cripple ourselves.

The whole "is Washington smart enough..." argument is overplayed. They are smarter than us which is why for 70+ years the federal government has been growing bigger and bigger without anyone or anything to stop it.

Nexus4

KevinFACE · 03-04-2013, 09:08

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Originally Posted by cesaros

The whole "is Washington smart enough..." argument is overplayed. They are smarter than us which is why for 70+ years the federal government has been growing bigger and bigger without anyone or anything to stop it.

Nexus4

Never under-estimate your enemy, eh?

FloorPoor · 03-14-2013, 18:45

I have actually seen practice 9mm's at two different LGS's in the past couple weeks, and at normal price.

But I still have seen NO rim fires in a long while.

BobbyS · 03-14-2013, 19:31

Yeah, I saw where a local SportsMans Warehouse here had an ammo shipment coming in Tuesday. People were
lining up at O-dark-30 waiting for the 9am opening of the store. It's farcking crazy!

**Jerry** · 03-14-2013, 20:34

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Originally Posted by CanMan

DHS snagged 2B from somewhere. Heck, we're behind the curve already.

Not relay! All it takes is single shot .22 to get one a fully automatic M-16 or AK when the war starts. I hope the grabbers keep that in mind while playing all their silly games. When The People get enough of the crap the SWHTF. I'll bet the grabbers yell uncle first.