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Old 01-30-2013, 12:16   #1
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Teen girl who performed at Obama inauguration killed in Chicago shooting

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...cago-shooting/
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:19   #2
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"We hardly ... have any crime," said Jennifer West, who lives close to where the incident occurred.

I'm sorry, what planet are you living on??

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Old 01-30-2013, 12:19   #3
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:23   #4
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Impossible.. they have "gun control" over there!

RIP little girl.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:25   #5
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Sorry to hear about the girl.

But this reminds me of a line from a movie ("Car 57, where are you?", I think):

"We have the lowest repoted crime rate in the city!"

"That's because you don't report any of it!"
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:28   #6
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They brought her up in the gun control hearings today.

They also made a point to say that Chicago's gun violence issues are due to people getting guns in other states and that without that, their gun control laws would be working.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:29   #7
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Let's see now if I have this correct. A lot of gang shootings in Chicago, so they want to take away guns from the honest citizens so they can't protect themselves against the gang shootings. Does that about say it all?
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:32   #8
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Chicago's top cop says violence not as bad as it seems

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/story/20...ad-as-it-seems


Well there you go. Bannig guns must be working.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:39   #9
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Well, if their gun laws are working, that means the police are not doing their jobs and should be kicked to the curb. Right?

Along with the moron mayor.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:54   #10
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Well, if their gun laws are working, that means the police are not doing their jobs and should be kicked to the curb. Right?

Along with the moron mayor.
The murder rate has been cut in half over the last 20 years. Many forget, Chicago had a murder count close to a 900+ per year from the 70's to the early 90's. So as bad as 500 sounds, it is nearly 1/2 of what it was in recent history with a higher population.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:55   #11
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They also made a point to say that Chicago's gun violence issues are due to people getting guns in other states and that without that, their gun control laws would be working.
Sounds like a good argument for building a border fence around Chicago, to keep the guns out. "If it saves only one child's life!"

(Obama should regularly go back and do more work in Chicago. The community's organization seems to be unraveling a bit.)
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:55   #12
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"We hardly ... have any crime," said Jennifer West, who lives close to where the incident occurred.

I'm sorry, what planet are you living on??

Chicago has some relativity safe neighborhoods on the north side and scattered throughout the city that have crime rates at or below the national average.


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Old 01-30-2013, 12:57   #13
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The murder rate has been cut in half over the last 20 years. Many forget, Chicago had a murder count close to a 900+ per year from the 70's to the early 90's. So as bad as 500 sounds, it is nearly 1/2 of what it was in recent history with a higher population.
And 500 is still higher than the (firearm) murder rate in entire state of Arizona...............with twice the population.
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Old 01-30-2013, 13:02   #14
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Just another example of gun control failing to perform as promised.

Now the left will say we need to take them all off the streets and that will fix it....... yeah ok.
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And 500 is still higher than the (firearm) murder rate in entire state of Arizona...............with twice the population.
Oh...I agree there is still a major problem. Just pointing out what so many forget, in 1992 Chicago had a murder rate of 34 per 100000 persons which is unheard of outside of a 3rd world country. While 500 is bad, they have made some progress.

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Old 01-30-2013, 13:14   #16
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Beautiful young girl murdered for less than nothing...

A civilized society would feed the shooter's entrails to a pack of starving wild dogs while he was still alive to watch it happen.

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Old 01-30-2013, 13:20   #17
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Condolences to the family and shame on the administrations in illinois, and in Chicago, where for years they have ignored, and/or failed to act on the numerous acts of violence by the drug dealers, gangs, and thugs, while instead, going against the good, law abiding citizens who happen to own weapons.
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Just another example of gun control failing to perform as promised.

Now the left will say we need to take them all off the streets and that will fix it....... yeah ok.
If they take all the gang bangers and other BGs off the street, and allow law abiding citizens to have handguns, that will fix it.

The Chicago machine, will never allow that. it would put the machine, out of business, if they did that.
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Beautiful young girl murdered for less than nothing...

A civilized society would feed the shooter's entrails to a pack of starving wild dogs while he was still alive to watch it happen.

Civilized?
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I irony is, a murder that illustrates that the strictest gun control in America DOES NOT work, will be used to support more gun control.
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Old 01-30-2013, 13:46   #21
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And 500 is still higher than the (firearm) murder rate in entire state of Arizona...............with twice the population.
Who cares about the entire state, unless maybe it's Rhode Island. If I'm living in Phoenix, the murder rate of Arizona as a whole is just trivia. And if I was worried about being murdered, I'd be safer in New York, NY.

2009 numbers because that's what was easiest to find:

Murder rate per 100,000 people.

Cary, NC - 0.00
San Diego, CA - 3.12
Raleigh, NC - 3.45
Seattle, WA - 3.65
New York, NY Murder Rate - 5.61
Phoenix, AZ Murder Rate - 7.64
Durham, NC - 9.23
Jacksonville, FL - 12.22
Miami, FL - 14.07
Chicago, IL Murder Rate - 16.08
Tulsa, OK Murder rate - 17.67
Birmingham, AL - 28.59
New Orleans, LA - 51.72
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No matter the rate it is people who do these things and not pieces of metal and plastic.
Stop the criminals!
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Old 01-30-2013, 14:20   #23
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Outlawing guns doesn't work; we should outlaw murder.

Oh wait...
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Old 01-30-2013, 14:46   #24
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Who cares about the entire state, unless maybe it's Rhode Island. If I'm living in Phoenix, the murder rate of Arizona as a whole is just trivia. And if I was worried about being murdered, I'd be safer in New York, NY.

2009 numbers because that's what was easiest to find:

Murder rate per 100,000 people.

Cary, NC - 0.00
San Diego, CA - 3.12
Raleigh, NC - 3.45
Seattle, WA - 3.65
New York, NY Murder Rate - 5.61
Phoenix, AZ Murder Rate - 7.64
Durham, NC - 9.23
Jacksonville, FL - 12.22
Miami, FL - 14.07
Chicago, IL Murder Rate - 16.08
Tulsa, OK Murder rate - 17.67
Birmingham, AL - 28.59
New Orleans, LA - 51.72
In none of those listed cities, except Phoenix, can damn near each citizen legally own and open carry a handgun.

So, you're stats are meaningless.

If Arizona's borders were more secure, our homicide rate would be much lower.
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@RGBiker, NC has open carry too.
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