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Old 01-27-2013, 18:49   #1
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Bought 870 Express Tactical Today ?s

Got a Magpul forend as well. What other accessories should I get? This is going to be a beater gun. That's why I got the Express, but I would like to upgrade sight and a few other things. Suggestions welcome...
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Old 01-27-2013, 19:25   #2
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The only forearm I would buy is a Surefire.

Depending on the use you intend for it maybe a side saddle. I personally dont like side saddles on hunting guns or HD guns as they change the balance and make carrying it more difficult.

On my duty shotgun I have a side saddle, sling, and a Surefire fore end. The only accessories needed on a good shotgun. I have considered an oversized safety, but haven't gotten around to trying one.
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Old 01-27-2013, 19:29   #3
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The only forearm I would buy is a Surefire.

Depending on the use you intend for it maybe a side saddle. I personally dont like side saddles on hunting guns or HD guns as they change the balance and make carrying it more difficult.

On my duty shotgun I have a side saddle, sling, and a Surefire fore end. The only accessories needed on a good shotgun. I have considered an oversized safety, but haven't gotten around to trying one.
What are your opinions on changing the buttstock?
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Old 01-27-2013, 19:54   #4
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Been using an 870 at work for over 27 years...own 2 and they both have sidesaddles, two point sling, extended mag tube, magpul stock, houge forend, and the vang comp round top large safety....just picked up a 1100 tac 4 and adding the same safety....

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Old 02-01-2013, 22:57   #5
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Got a Magpul forend as well. What other accessories should I get? This is going to be a beater gun. That's why I got the Express, but I would like to upgrade sight and a few other things. Suggestions welcome...
I have a speedfeed iv pistol grip stock, shotgun cards for extra rounds (similar to side saddle), bang comp big safety, upgraded mim express parts for the 870P parts, light mount/surefire light, and 1 pt sling on my work gun. Up to you how crazy you go, really depends on use.


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Old 02-13-2013, 18:13   #7
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Bead front sight is all that you need for SD.

If you want to shoot slugs, you can get a barrel with sights.

I put a Wilson 2 shot extension without the sling mount on
mine and that's all I need.

If you want a tactical shotgun, and add parts, go to
aippi's website and read about shotguns.
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If you plan on using it for defensive use, I recommend a light.

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Old 02-13-2013, 20:06   #9
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Thanks... I do use it for HD... Do you have a recommendation for a light? BTW great videos... Keep up the good work....
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Old 02-13-2013, 21:57   #10
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I have the same model 870. I've added the heavier carrier dog spring, non MIM extractor, Vang safety and a Hogue 12" LOP stock. An XS bead and light are next.
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Old 02-13-2013, 22:24   #11
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Here is my Rem. 870 12-gauge Express Super Magnum:

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Knoxx/Blackhawk adjustable pistol-grip stock (with Pachmayr slip-on grip on pistol grip), Hogue rubber forearm, 18.5" barrel, +2 magazine extention with clamp, Hi-Viz Flame Green front sight, 6-shot receiver mount ammo carrier, "tactical follower", Wolff extra power magazine spring (tuned), Mesa receiver mount hook loop for 1-point sling, trigger job...

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Old 02-13-2013, 23:32   #12
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What are your opinions on changing the buttstock?
I put the Remington "Youth" model stock on mine. I like a 13in LOP on a pump gun.
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I put the Remington "Youth" model stock on mine. I like a 13in LOP on a pump gun.
This why I went with the adjustable length Knoxx/Blackhawk stock for my 870...I also like a shorter stock than "normal", as it's quicker to "shoulder" without getting hung-up on my shirt and/or jacket.
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This why I went with the adjustable length Knoxx/Blackhawk stock for my 870...I also like a shorter stock than "normal", as it's quicker to "shoulder" without getting hung-up on my shirt and/or jacket.
I had one of those from before they sold the company to Blackhawk. I liked it but that particular shotgun had issues. I never did get it sorted. Even Remington couldn't figure it out.

I ended up tearing the furniture off and selling it to a buddy and selling the action to a gunsmith buddy who eventually tore it completely down and rebuilt it and it worked fine.

I'm one of those rare individuals who's almost completely indifferent to recoil up to a point. I've shot a few big bore African style big game rifles that I'd not care to shoot again. They were custom affairs that were built to be light but still take down a 2000+lb animal with one shot.

But a shotty doesn't bother me at all, even my Benelli M2 which kicks pretty hard being as light as it is. My buddy Doug who's a Capt. in the Airforce so no stranger to guns will only shoot a few rounds through the Benelli.

So basically, the recoil eating utility of the Knoxx stock were lost on me but the design is pretty cool. I want to do another Remington with a folding setup for the car. I'll most likely do the Mesa extension and an ACE folder attached to it.
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Been using an 870 at work for over 27 years...own 2 and they both have sidesaddles, two point sling, extended mag tube, magpul stock, houge forend, and the vang comp round top large safety...

Keep it simple.....
Excellent advice...

Mine has a Choate pistol grip stock, Choate for-end with Surefire light, side saddle, Remington oversize safety and Breaching choke tube, a Ext mag tube and Rem choked (threaded barrel) rifle site barrel. These sites are steel and durable offering a excellent sight picture and durable sites.

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Thanks... I do use it for HD... Do you have a recommendation for a light? BTW great videos... Keep up the good work....
The HSP WML is what I have on there now and I really like it in that position. Very instinctive to activate. I've also used a Streamlight ProTac HL on it before and it's worked very well. It's bright as hell (600 lumens) but the battery life is obviously shortened...
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Depending on the use you intend for it maybe a side saddle. I personally dont like side saddles on hunting guns or HD guns as they change the balance and make carrying it more difficult.
On the other hand a side saddle adds some recoil taming weight, and you don't have to carry an HD gun around far or long, like you do with a patrol gun. Grab the gun with a sidesaddle in an emergency and you have your reloads with you.

I also find reloading (be it the chamber or the tube), easier from a side saddle than from a stock mounted shell holder or Speedfeed.

A sling is still a good idea on an HD gun to free at least one hand for opening doors, holding on to children and other emergency tasks.
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...So basically, the recoil eating utility of the Knoxx stock were lost on me but the design is pretty cool...
The Knoxx/Blackhawk stock that I have doesn't have that pesky recoil-reduction system...I don't want the whole damn shotgun moving backwards into the stock as I fire it.
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I put a four round SS on mine and really like it. it doesn't mess with the feel of the gun much. I have a +3 [I think] extended mag tube that make the front feel heavy so I don't care for it. it goes about an inch past my barrel. I think a +1 or 2 would feel better.
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What are your opinions on changing the buttstock?
Just put the Magpul on mine and like it. Very nice stock.
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I put a four round SS on mine and really like it. it doesn't mess with the feel of the gun much. I have a +3 [I think] extended mag tube that make the front feel heavy so I don't care for it. it goes about an inch past my barrel. I think a +1 or 2 would feel better.
A +2 magazine extention works perfectly with an 18.5" barrel.
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870's are good shotguns, but it is a low end product, and does have it's weaknesses. My first one had an issue caused by poor shell latch staking. In seeking the cure, I found there are a few things you can do to head off possible problems.

I got a latch staker ($24 at Brownells) and stake the shell latches, even if they aren't loose. My first one had an issue caused by poor staking, and the latch ended up coming completely out, and seeing how easily that can occur, for a HD firearm, I proactively stake the latches.

A couple tweaks I learned from rem870.com:

Polish the chamber. If you have a Dremel (designed and marketed by gunsmiths to help their business) you can get a polishing wheel and some metal polish, and make it smooth as silk. You are using a soft polishing wheel, so you'll have to work really hard to hurt the gun.

http://www.rem870.com/2012/10/14/rem...ber-polishing/


Another is to widen the ejection port. It helps ejection and "tactical reloading" from the sidesaddle. It's a simple operation, that might prove worthwhile.


http://www.rem870.com/2013/01/14/rem...-modification/


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870's are good shotguns, but it is a low end product, and does have it's weaknesses.
Having the hawtness for Katherine Hepburn with just one eye has made you think goofy thoughts.
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A +2 magazine extention works perfectly with an 18.5" barrel.
I'l have to remember that cause I'm probably be replacing my 21''+ for an 18.5.
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Having the hawtness for Katherine Hepburn with just one eye has made you think goofy thoughts.
Not at all.

As mentioned, my first 870 Express (bought second hand in the early 90's, sold to me probably because of the problems) had a shell latch problem that caused malfunctions. At first, it only happened occasionally, but then got to where it happened every time. Years ago, I took a HD Shotgun class and part of the discussion was an issue SOME 870 Express' had. I forget the specifics, but the slots in the shell carrier were a response to some problem. I think my shell latch issue was what he was referring to. If not, there is more than one issue.

The double feed issue with an 870 must be fairly prevalent, as it and it's remedy are described on rem870.com.

http://www.rem870.com/2012/11/06/rem...ed-stove-pipe/

Fast forward a few years, and I bought an 870 Express Super Magnum, because I couldn't count on the first one for HD. I was reluctant to buy the S.M. because there WAS a known problem with ejection, but the clerk at the LGS acknowledged the problem, and said it had been addressed. There they go again....... He also said he had seen buttstocks split from people hitting the ground trying to eject the hull. The first shot, with my BRAND NEW, "improved" Remington 870 Express Super Magnum, the shell stuck in the chamber and wouldn't eject. I didn't slam it on the ground, but took it home and disassembled it and used a rod to get the hull out. Polished the chamber, same ammo, the problem didn't happen again. So far, it's functioned flawlessly with several different types of ammo, bird shot, slug, and buck shot.

Oddly enough, when searching for an answer to my Super Magnum's problem, I found the shell latch problem. I staked the shell latches and have not replicated any issue in hundreds of tries. Now I have two exceptional HD shotguns, that I wouldn't have any problem taking to N. Dallas.

If you look around the web, you'll see that there are a number of 870's that do have MINOR issues. But so does anything else mass produced.

When you polish it up and stake the shell latches, you have a damn fine firearm.

I am running at a 100% rate of issues with Remington 870 Express'. But I won't hesitate to buy another, now that I know what to do with them. Think about it, the first one was a dud, and I bought another. Yes, I love Remington products. Now I have two good 870 Express' that I can count on.

I actually enjoy doing tweaks like polishing the chambers and staking the latches. Things like that are fun to do on a nasty winter Saturday after the hunting seasons close.

And now, thanks to my Remington 870 Express Super Magnum, and the issues I had with it, I have a very good understanding of the inner workings of the firearm. Like how the action bars activate the left and right shell latch. Never really paid much attention to it before.
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