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Old 01-29-2013, 07:04   #51
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Spices.

Most reliable way to tell real prepper from fantasy prepper. If one stockpiles spices than he is an idiot.

You do not need spices if you are hungry. You need spices to get more food down then you need. For many years when I was semi-hungry or just hungry I dreamt about piece of meat. Never once I dreamt about any spices or sauses.
SERIOUSLY --

IMPORTANT NOTE - Spices and a variety of foods is not a luxurity with young and old people. Studies have shown that with the young and old their calorie consumption declines when they have repetitious and bland food to eat. Calorie needs would increase in a SHTF situation as people do more physical activity. So don't take this lightly.

The taste ability declines as we get older. That is why some older people might spice up their food.

http://www.webmd.com/oral-health/tc/...topic-overview

So, a good prepper would include spices in their preps.

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Old 01-29-2013, 07:21   #52
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SERIOUSLY --

IMPORTANT NOTE - Spices and a variety of foods is not a luxurity with young and old people. Studies have shown that with the young and old their calorie consumption declines when they have repetitious and bland food to eat. Calorie needs would increase in a SHTF situation as people do more physical activity. So don't take this lightly.

The taste ability declines as we get older. That is why some older people might spice up their food.

http://www.webmd.com/oral-health/tc/...topic-overview

So, a good prepper would include spices in their preps.
There goes another survivalist who could not make it though the day without Google and Wickipedia....

Somebody who never gone hungry in his life (not on the diet). Somebody who cannot comprehend days, months, years yearning for enough food…..

Spices! Clearest indicatior of a fantasy prepper!





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Old 01-29-2013, 07:22   #53
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I could teach a class on surivalism from survivors perspective…. Will you listen…? Heck no! You are the survivalist! You are way too smart for that!





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Shake the sand from your panties man, your the one saying bad preppers dont stock spices.

What exactly did you survive?
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:33   #54
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What exactly did you survive?
Collapse of an empire, way of life, currency, law and order....

All that insignificant stuff…



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Old 01-29-2013, 07:38   #55
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Its a rookie move to think you'll just transfer to rice and beans everyday and have your body function the same.
Yep, one big thing about survival is reducing the stress on the body and not disrupting the diet is a huge part of it.
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:52   #56
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There goes another survivalist who could not make it though the day without Google and Wickipedia....

Somebody who never gone hungry in his life (not on the diet). Somebody who cannot comprehend days, months, years yearning for enough food…..

Spices! Clearest indication of fantasy prepper!


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If you are only concerned about yourself you might be right. But if you have responsibilities for others young and old you want to help them stay alive.

If a child eats just 200 calories a day less then they burn; they will lose about 2 pounds a month. Starvation can happen slowly.

A good prepper know knowledge is a key for survival - it isn't so much what you have but knowing how to use what you have - a bad prepper only knows what they have experienced.

The other thing you are missing is that sharing a meal with others can be a pleasurable and social occasion. Good tasting food adds to that and keeps morale up.
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:01   #57
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If you are only concerned about yourself you might be right. But if you have responsibilities for others young and old you want to help them stay alive.

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Spices are not even mentioned by hungry people. You will never understand it until you are hungry. I do not expect you to understand it because you cannot. I have seen people begging for meat and food in general. I have never seen people begging for spices on it.



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Old 01-29-2013, 08:31   #58
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Spices are not even mentioned by hungry people. You will never understand it until you are hungry. I do not expect you to understand it because you cannot. I have seen people begging for meat and food in general. I have never seen people begging for spices on it.



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You are missing the point about prepping. Prepping is about life and living. As many have said in this thread - they eat what they store, and store what they eat. If you don't eat spices now great and good on you.

I enjoy food. If I'm hungry or starving will I not eat it because it isn't spiced the way I like it? Of course I will eat it.

When the SHTF, I'll be happy that I stored a little oregano, basil, garlic salt, sugar, and salt to make some Italian pasta sauce. It will go great with some Cabernet Sauvignon. That's the way I roll. If it isn't to your liking - to each his own.
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:13   #59
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Spices are not even mentioned by hungry people. You will never understand it until you are hungry. I do not expect you to understand it because you cannot. I have seen people begging for meat and food in general. I have never seen people begging for spices on it.

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You sir.. are disturbed in some manner.

The whole freaking POINT of preparing is so you don't have to live on tree bark and sandal soles in case of an emergency.

I hate it that, according to what you say, you have already lived through a pretty severe SHTF. It must have made you very bitter that others were more prepared than you, (or not) and that is why all you do is poopoo everybody who is hoping and trying and planning to NOT have to do the same.

If you have so much great experience, how about SHARING it rather than just talking crap to people.

BTW, I have been hungry.. yes HUNGRY. Like, lost a lot of needed body weight hungry. (165 lean and mean pounds to 127 lbs)

I still like/want spices. At the time did I care about spices? no. What did I care about? I wanted an apple. an APPLE. and I **** you not.. good salads. I bet in the first month or so of returning to "normal" I ate a big salad nearly every day.
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:19   #60
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:38   #61
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Ummmm.....I coined that one.....LOL!
My bad; I knew it was somebody around here, and I’m not as sharp as I used to be…


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The only use for spices in survivalist situation is if you are Donner Party re-enactor (AKA bug out survivalist) and you do not like your buddy so much that you need spices to eat him.
So spices are irrelevant… unless we’re turning to cannibalism. Got it.


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…Salt is not a spice really. It is a food preservative. Real survivalist would know that.
According to Webster’s dictionary, a spice is “something that gives zest or relish”; and "spice" is also a synonym for “season”.
Also according to Webster’s, salt is “used especially to season or preserve food”, which according to the rules of the English language, is the same as “used especially to spice or preserve food”.

So yes, spice. At least unless we want to debate the accuracy of Webster’s dictionary; which I’m not personally arrogant enough to do.

There are those that say a CAR-15 isn’t a “hunting” gun. I personally have dead deer that would disagree. So in actual use, it absolutely is a ‘hunting gun’. Similarly, when I put salt on my eggs or potatoes, I’m not preserving them, I’m seasoning them.

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Simply put if you think salt is a spice then you are an idiot. AKA “fantasy prepper”.
Well, bummer. Webster’s dictionary is idiotic and fantastical. That’s disconcerting to learn.

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I do not give a salted piece of you know what about what The United States Department of Health and Human Services recommends. Nobody in that whole department knows how to salt and preserve one fish or one cucumber.
Wow. You know everybody in the dept of health, and are personally aware of their individual abilities. Wish I was omniscient like that.


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Collapse of an empire, way of life, currency, law and order...
Genuinely curious; not being facetious, but where and in what circumstances? There’s an old line about “every man is my better, in that I may learn from him”, and I personally don’t at all mind learning from the experiences of others.

As someone mentioned above, most of us here are interested in actual experiences, and listen to folks & consider their input as potentially valuable. It is difficult, however, to listen objectively when there's insulting pontification going on.
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Fantasy preppers sure love reading books! Dictionaries and government manuals.
Will it help you when you are hungry? I highly doubt it.
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If you have so much great experience, how about SHARING it rather than just talking crap to people.
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People that talk crap only deserve same thing back. You started with cement, salt and pepper are spices….
I could teach a class on surviving but you are not going to come there. You are too smart for your own good.
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When the SHTF, I'll be happy that I stored a little oregano, basil, garlic salt, sugar, and salt to make some Italian pasta sauce. It will go great with some Cabernet Sauvignon. That's the way I roll. If it isn't to your liking - to each his own.
Clueless idiot.

You never been hungry. That is all. You do not know what starvation does do your mind.

Yeah. Sure. You will say that it did a number on mine. I survived thought. You do not even begin to imagine what it will do to yours.




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Old 01-29-2013, 12:21   #67
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I've got right at 20yrs x 2 stored,spices are a integral part ta survival.Yes I've been quite hungry in my life,that is the reason I started ta prep.Don't try and sound like you were the only one,it's quite hypocritical.'08.
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I've got right at 20yrs x 2 stored,spices are a integral part ta survival.Yes I've been quite hungry in my life,that is the reason I started ta prep.Don't try and sound like you were the only one,it's quite hypocritical.'08.
20 years ago I spoke no English. You still do not. I guess I will have to ignore your very edumacated opinion then.


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Fantasy preppers sure love reading books! Dictionaries and government manuals.
Will it help you when you are hungry? I highly doubt it.
I do like dictionaries when it comes to pointing out incorrect definitions of words.

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Clueless idiot.

You never been hungry. That is all. You do not know what starvation does do your mind.

Yeah. Sure. You will say that it did a number on mine. I survived thought. You do not even begin to imagine what it will do to yours.




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Again, seriously; any info you'd care to share would be welcome. There just seems to be a hostility here, that if done away with, could lead to more useful info being passed along.
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I could teach a class on surivalism from survivors perspective…. Will you listen…? Heck no! You are the survivalist! You are way too smart for that!
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Yes, I'm too smart to listen to someone who says that anyone who stores spices is an idiot. There is no downside to storing spices.
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Clueless idiot.

You never been hungry. That is all. You do not know what starvation does do your mind.

Yeah. Sure. You will say that it did a number on mine. I survived thought. You do not even begin to imagine what it will do to yours.
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A bad prepper is someone who doesn't understand the purpose behind prepping.

People who don't prep are the ones who will go hungry and eat anything. People who prep won't go be going hungry. That's kind of the point.

It sounds as if your experience is in surviving a SHTF situation without having prepared for it. You're on the wrong forum to give advice. You need to be on the "Oh, darn, I didn't see that coming" forum.
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You kiddies go ahead and play in your survivalist sandbox full of spices you wasted your money on.
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You kiddies go ahead and play in your survivalist sandbox full of spices you wasted your money on.



You are a wanna-be with the hall monitor syndrome..

I'll bet you have never even survived a fist fight, let alone all the things you mentioned.

Your a coward and a liar I say, unplug your computer and go wander into the wilderness to be with the one person who cares what you think and say, and the only person who wants to hear from you.

Have a nice life loser.
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