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Old 01-25-2013, 19:56   #21
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a good prepper you never hear from. A bad prepper, you hear from occasionally, a fantasy prepper, all the time.
Beat me to the answer, good preppers are unknown because they keep their pie hole shut
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Old 01-25-2013, 19:56   #22
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Sometimes even the best preppers have to be reminded from time to time of the "mortality and fallibility" clause that is part of being human. I remember when a very well respected prepper (Myth) had a very sobering moment during the incident with a horse that generated a severe hand injury.

I know the wrestling incident of another very well respected prepper (aka Quake ) had recently with a younger opponent was seemingly a wakeup call.

As for me...I was "flying high" after surviving completely unscathed during several close calls on the bike (nighttime deer mostly ) & after generating some consistently great times on aimed & unaimed pistol plate rack shooting.....something I have not seriously done in many years.

But....all of that 'ego' came crashing down hard a few days ago when this 6' 7" giant was literally brought to my knees by the smallest of opponents.... http://healthland.time.com/2013/01/2...ng-in-the-u-s/

..I believe was acquired with a late night visit to BK right after work.

Nope....didn't break into the antivirals, sambucol, home remedies..

..figured it would be quickly put down with a little bed rest & lots of liquids.


(Before this....had not used a single day of sick leave in my 6+ years with this employer.)

Well, days later..

..feel like I have been dragged behind a truck on a gravel road...

.. I now know a certain item made of white porcelain a lot more intimately..

.. & with a much greater frequency than I ever wanted to!

I believe our creator gives us these humbling lessons from time to time for good reasons!

It is for us (sometimes with our wives & children's input ) to interpret those lessons & incorporate into our lives....& future planning!
There is a quote from a Raymond Chandler novel I always remember:
"He spoke like a man with a full stomach."

LG1, this is not talking about you.

What it means is that when we are fully satiated we speak with bravado. When we remember being cold, weak and hungry we are more realistic.
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Old 01-25-2013, 20:05   #23
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Not every SHTF situation will be a long term or be an out of food event, My preps are geared towards short term like a hurricane civil unrest neighborhood rioting gun grab etc etc my neighbor who is also a short term prepper is the only of my neighbors that know I prep. we talk and share the same thoughts,I do have more guns and ammo then food preps simply because my hobby is shooting not because I'm coming after others food.
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Old 01-25-2013, 23:05   #24
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...I know the wrestling incident of another very well respected prepper (aka Quake ) had recently with a younger opponent was seemingly a wakeup call..
Hey, I know that guy. He's kind of a grumpy old fart.

But he's a grumpy old fart who takes his cardio more seriously now and - even with the recent holiday feasting - still weighs 26lbs less than he did a year ago.
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Old 01-26-2013, 02:00   #25
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Good prepper doesn't talk about it.

Bad prepper knows he needs more and either doesn't do anything about it or doesn't have enough and doesn't know about it.

Fantasy prepper says he will just come to your house since you are a good prepper.
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Old 01-26-2013, 08:57   #26
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This thread is more interesting than I thought it would be when I saw it. Some good points here. Any prepping beats no prepping. "Bad" preppers can become "good" preppers. As has been said, probably the best preppers are the ones that no one knows is prepping.
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Old 01-26-2013, 13:09   #27
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Good prepper doesn't talk about it.

Bad prepper knows he needs more and either doesn't do anything about it or doesn't have enough and doesn't know about it.

Fantasy prepper says he will just come to your house since you are a good prepper.
While I would state it is definitely wise not to advertise your preps with those locally who do not prepare in a similar manner....or broadcast personal information online..

...there can be both a positive personal & sociatal benefit in advertising preps anonymously. I have networked with many serious preppers who I would not have met otherwise....& many, many times have been told that my pics of preps have inspired others to either get their preps in order or to a higher level.
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Old 01-26-2013, 13:18   #28
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While I would state it is definitely wise not to advertise your preps with those locally who do not prepare in a similar manner....or broadcast personal information online..

...there can be both a positive personal & sociatal benefit in advertising preps anonymously. I have networked with many serious preppers who I would not have met otherwise....& many, many times have been told that my pics of preps have inspired others to either get their preps in order or to a higher level.
Yes, and that is what I mean. Share info anonymously is not the same as letting people who know you, know about your preps, and endangering OpSec.

What you are doing doesn't really affect OpSec in that there is a very small chance of us finding you, compared to me telling my neighbors and openly talking about it at work and spreading it around where now my house and family become a known quantity.
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Old 01-26-2013, 14:39   #29
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A good prepper is in it for more than himself and his family, he is in it for his community.
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:19   #30
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I think the difference between a good prepper and bad prepper is experience. The longer you do it the more you learn and the more your perceptions change. Guns are the "sexy" part of prepping. Everyone (generalizing) thinks they need lots of guns and ammo to be a prepper. After all guns and ammo will be all you really need with maybe a little food and water. Then maybe a bug out bag so you can get to the country and "live off the land".

Well now you kneed more food at home just in case, so you get some 5 gallon buckets and some water storage. Well now that you have hundreds of pounds of food at home why would you want to leave. That BOB will be re-designated as a GHB because with all that food and water you'll want to bug in. But what about if that food runs out? Might want to get some seeds and start gardening, after all fresh veggies and herbs will be great on some of this food, maybe even some chickens or rabbits. Now what is someone gets hurt or sick? Hmmm...fishmox, bandages, gauze, asprin ect...

Wow, now you have all this stuff but what if someone wants to take it? I might need to look for other preppers in the area and start networking, but how am I going to communicate with them? Maybe a ham radio or such. Now you have supplies and community to get through a disaster. May have taken a few years but with time, learning and research I figure most people will come up with something like this.
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Old 01-28-2013, 12:35   #31
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I think the difference between a good prepper and bad prepper is experience. The longer you do it the more you learn and the more your perceptions change. Guns are the "sexy" part of prepping. Everyone (generalizing) thinks they need lots of guns and ammo to be a prepper. After all guns and ammo will be all you really need with maybe a little food and water. Then maybe a bug out bag so you can get to the country and "live off the land".

Well now you kneed more food at home just in case, so you get some 5 gallon buckets and some water storage. Well now that you have hundreds of pounds of food at home why would you want to leave. That BOB will be re-designated as a GHB because with all that food and water you'll want to bug in. But what about if that food runs out? Might want to get some seeds and start gardening, after all fresh veggies and herbs will be great on some of this food, maybe even some chickens or rabbits. Now what is someone gets hurt or sick? Hmmm...fishmox, bandages, gauze, asprin ect...

Wow, now you have all this stuff but what if someone wants to take it? I might need to look for other preppers in the area and start networking, but how am I going to communicate with them? Maybe a ham radio or such. Now you have supplies and community to get through a disaster. May have taken a few years but with time, learning and research I figure most people will come up with something like this.
Yep, more or less the "evolution of a prepper." Sometimes folks move through this quicker, sometimes slower.
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Old 01-28-2013, 13:24   #32
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OK - I started this thread because I was getting tired of all the 'When the lights go out; it will be war' people and their incessant and lack of perspective talk about guns, tactics and the evil of everyone else but them when the SHTF.

And what do you all do - you show your maturity, insights and reasonable perspectives.

Maybe there is hope for the world.
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Old 01-28-2013, 17:27   #33
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Spices.

Most reliable way to tell real prepper from fantasy prepper. If one stockpiles spices than he is an idiot.

You do not need spices if you are hungry. You need spices to get more food down then you need. For many years when I was semi-hungry or just hungry I dreamt about piece of meat. Never once I dreamt about any spices or sauses.
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Old 01-28-2013, 18:06   #34
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While not a true necessity (other than salt), I do stock spices such as salt, pepper, even onion powder & some others. Don't "have to" have them (again, other than salt as far as I can recall off the top of my head), but it's sure nice to have. The difference between ghetto "lentils & beans" and glorious "mujadrah"..? Spices.

Kind of like deodorant & toothpaste imo. A person could go a long time sans Crest with no measurable health problems - after all, people did it for centuries - but I'd just rather not. I like the expression, I believe from Myth some years ago; that he preferred to be "thrivalist rather than a mere survivalist". Basically, once a sustenance-level is reached, go ahead and exceed it if you want; no downside other than cost, and surely can't hurt.
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Old 01-28-2013, 18:21   #35
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Spices.

Most reliable way to tell real prepper from fantasy prepper. If one stockpiles spices than he is an idiot.

You do not need spices if you are hungry. You need spices to get more food down then you need. For many years when I was semi-hungry or just hungry I dreamt about piece of meat. Never once I dreamt about any spices or sauses.
It really depends upon the SHTF. If, you are in your bunker waiting for the plague to pass you by; you might want to have a some spices so you can channel your inner Rachael Ray to help pass the time.

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Old 01-28-2013, 18:28   #36
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The only use for spices in survivalist situation is if you are Donner Party re-enactor (AKA bug out survivalist) and you do not like your buddy so much that you need spices to eat him.
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Old 01-28-2013, 18:30   #37
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i plan on eating the bad guys i shoot.....mobile food that comes to you is best.
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Old 01-28-2013, 18:33   #38
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Well, that cements it then. We use a lot of salt and pepper around the house, and the last time I bought some... I "stocked up"...

So after 30 years of living the life, and working our way to an nearly off grid lifestyle..

Turns out I am a "fantasy prepper".

Guess I will go in the kitchen now and grind some fantasy cracked wheat for breakfast in the morning.
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I am[/I] a "fantasy prepper".

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Because you did no not know that it is not SHTF YET. Survivalism begins after civilization goes down the drain but I guess being off the grid you did not get the news that life still goes on as “normal”.

Salt is not a spice really. It is a food preservative. Real survivalist would know that.
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Old 01-28-2013, 19:27   #40
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Oh heck, I'll play...

Some good prepper qualities -
  • Assesses their own environment to form their own risk assessment and understands that their assessment will different from most others in many aspects...and they don't assume there is a one-size-fits-all solution to prepping
  • Is receptive to ideas and criticisms from others...even EMT (), j/k - you're a good guy.
  • Truly hopes for the best but plans for worst
  • Is fiscally responsible...by that I mean, you're not getting foreclosed on because you ran up debt beyond what you can afford
  • Preps include staying fit, medical, vision, dental checkups.
  • Has evolved well past the camping in woods, killing deer, and ambushes on zombies
  • Has periodically practiced executing their plans for various higher-risk scenarios - e.g., in the event of a possible flood, can you load up all of your highest priority personal effects and survival items and leave in a short time.
Some bad prepper qualities -
  • people who believe that their preps are ideal for you
  • focus on guns & ammo exclusively - but overlook water filtration, food, medical supplies, etc
  • Apparently have the balls the size of elephants and the peanut brain to match where they believe surviving is just like a shoot 'em video game
  • have all the 'right stuff' and no clue how to use - never practice - that goes well beyond shooting. You've got a water filtration system...have you used it before?
With all that said, I think many folks here are 'good preppers'. Sure, we get the ocassional Rambo that ventures in for a visit. However I think they are more the exception than the norm.

We have folks that have a wide variety of skills, and I think it's great that they take the time to share their opinions and suggestions here.
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