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Old 02-17-2013, 05:38   #251
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We can make up theories, but population grows with the availability of food. Our technology made a LOT more food available easily. Have a SHTF of whatever proportion and the amount of food available without all the tech - be it refrigeration, trucks, farm equipment, chem fertilizer, etc...will go down.

The question is does the population go down proportionatel. If it doesn't, problem. That would be any SHTF where the pop of a city is left even 50% intact.
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:34   #252
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We can make up theories, but population grows with the availability of food. Our technology made a LOT more food available easily. Have a SHTF of whatever proportion and the amount of food available without all the tech - be it refrigeration, trucks, farm equipment, chem fertilizer, etc...will go down.

The question is does the population go down proportionatel. If it doesn't, problem. That would be any SHTF where the pop of a city is left even 50% intact.
I would modify the above to:
population grows inversely to the cost of of food.

Modern chemical farming and relatively cheap oil which provided the world with relatively inexpensive food. With the increase in the price of oil, food production land going to produce bio fuels and the increase in population that will change.

A quick change in that dynamic would cause starvation and political instability in many countries. Many 2nd and 3rd world countries subsides basic food stuffs. The USA does that with food stamps.
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Old 02-17-2013, 23:19   #253
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A good prepper knows that food stamps are not used to mail survival food.

A good prepper knows that Navy SEALs aren't real seals.

A good prepper knows that an alligator does not live in an alley.

A good prepper knows "That's not a knife, now, this is a knife."

A good prepper knows that no one is allergic to spelling bees.

A good prepper knows that a pine cone is a lot different than a pin code.

A good prepper knows that EuroDriver didn't get his start in porn.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:37   #254
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A good prepper knows that food stamps are not used to mail survival food.

A good prepper knows that Navy SEALs aren't real seals.

A good prepper knows that an alligator does not live in an alley.

A good prepper knows "That's not a knife, now, this is a knife."

A good prepper knows that no one is allergic to spelling bees.

A good prepper knows that a pine cone is a lot different than a pin code.

A good prepper knows that EuroDriver didn't get his start in porn.
Much needed levity in a thread where people got insanely serious about nothing!!
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Old 02-18-2013, 12:01   #255
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Didnt read all the threads, so sorry if this has already been mentioned. The good prepper Did Not listen to all the experts and only buy 9mm handguns and .22LR and .223 rifles because "you can find ammo anywhere for them" Heck its the only caliber ammo you cant find anywhere and we havent even had a real crisis, just a bunch of paranoia.
The bad prepper just stock piles ammo and never practices. My son has a mountain cabin. He also spent six years in the military serving in an EOD unit and he has worked with various special operations units around the world. His closest mountain neighbor is a prepper and has built a bunker and has stock piled years of supplies.The problem is that he is so afraid to use any of his precious ammo that he never practices shooting/tactics to defend himself and his family.
My son said that if him and some of his military buddies showed up they could take the guy out of his bunker and get all of his supplies in about 15 minutes if they wanted to. Even though he would never do that. Some people just dont know how unprepared they really are.
For the record Im a backpacker, hunter and know a few things about wilderness survival. I keep a few emergency supplies but I myself am not a prepper.

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Old 02-18-2013, 12:06   #256
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The bad prepper just stock piles ammo and never practices. My son has a mountain cabin. He also spent six years in a the military serving in an EOD unit and he has work with various special operations units around the world. His closest mountain neighbor is a prepper and has built a bunker and has stock piled years of supplies.The problem is that he is so afraid to use any of his precious ammo that he never practices shooting/tactics to defend himself and his family.
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Lots of people like this. I think that sometimes prepping just turns into hoarding. The people that use their preps in everyday life are the ones most likely to be successful, IMO.
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Old 02-18-2013, 12:31   #257
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It is a fine line to walk, being well practiced or having stock when you need it. You can't buy ammo anywhere around here right now, so we don't go practice either. When ammo comes back, we will go back to the range. Meanwhile we practice around the house with Airsoft and BB guns.
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For the record Im a backpacker, hunter and know a few things about wilderness survival. I keep a few emergency supplies but I myself am not a prepper.
I think backpacking is a great way to learn about everything a person needs from head to toe because you have to have what you need with you, you are relying upon yourself, your abilities, and knowledge.
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