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02-11-2013, 18:54
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#226
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Originally Posted by UneasyRider
Holy Col. Bat Guano Batman! This thread is an all out brawl! General Ripper would be proud!
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Nice!
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02-11-2013, 19:06
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#227
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Originally Posted by kirgi08
Most folk look ta the future not dwell on the past.'08. 
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Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
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02-11-2013, 20:28
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#228
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countrygun - do not underestimate the human virus. It has ways of surviving.
Most of US are not feeling like living on Venison OR being safe out on the ranch from the hordes (or the dozen) is a guarantee. It sounds like you do.
That ask Kozel thing - that was some funny stuff right there! But he is right.
I agree half of the people will crap themselves to death out of fear or stupidity or whatever. And half of the remaining won't do much better for long. But the remaining 25%....
And don't forget god protects the stupid and the foolish. Luck happens, and so does bad luck.
But feeling comfortable...that's a bad symptom.
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02-11-2013, 20:37
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#229
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Originally Posted by Kozel
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
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Actually, the study of the past focusses on the mistakes people made - not how to avoid them. What really happens is people panic, or they stress and do what they know - which is to repeat the mistake they studied. There is research to support this.
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02-11-2013, 21:25
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#230
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Originally Posted by Aceman
Actually, the study of the past focusses on the mistakes people made - not how to avoid them. .
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Smart people learn from mistakes of their own or mistakes of others. Stupid people cannot avoid making mistakes because they do not learn at all.
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02-12-2013, 17:31
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Son of a Gun
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OMG can't believe I read most of this thread..
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Nuke the site from orbit... it's the only way to be sure.
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02-12-2013, 17:38
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#232
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Originally Posted by gnepig
OMG can't believe I read most of this thread..
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Nuke the site from orbit... it's the only way to be sure.
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Did it make laugh, cry, hurl...all at once?
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02-12-2013, 21:37
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There is much fail and yet much achievement, all in one thread.
It's been entertaining in a sort of Alfred Hitchcock/Andy Warhol/Bugs Bunny sort of way. And a bit of The Twilight Zone thrown in for production value.
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02-13-2013, 16:31
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Need proof?
"If the world ends, I can survive and hunt my own food and live in the wilderness," he says. Also, he says, "it tastes so good."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...LEFTTopStories
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02-13-2013, 16:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by concretefuzzynuts
There is much fail and yet much achievement, all in one thread.
It's been entertaining in a sort of Alfred Hitchcock/Andy Warhol/Bugs Bunny sort of way. And a bit of The Twilight Zone thrown in for production value.
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Not so sure about Hitchcock & Warhol, but I've seen Yosemite Sam, Elmer Fudd, Daffy Duck, and Wile E. Coyote in this thread.
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02-14-2013, 23:55
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#236
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Originally Posted by Pitt
A good prepper stockpiles food and water. A bad prepper stockpiles guns and ammo to steal food from a good prepper.
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Sadly, that is a reality one must prepare for.
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02-15-2013, 10:00
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#238
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Spices guys. Spices!
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02-15-2013, 10:06
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#239
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If you look like food,You will be eaten.
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02-15-2013, 10:41
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A prepared mind will be the best prepping priority. If the electrical grid was somehow disabled for an extended period of time----a large percentage of the population would be dead within six months. Water, food, medicine and armament are all secondary if you can not accept the fact that the world has changed for you from one of comfort to now of one of total chaos. Think of no place to buy food, gas, medicine, or any of the comforts you now enjoy...I lived without electricity for more than 15 years up in the great plains area. Little 80 acre farm out in the boonies. Kerosene lamps, wood stove, hand pumped well water, chickens, pigs, cows, potato garden, and a beautiful two holer with the applicable newspapers and Sears catalog in same..If you are still alive after six months--consider yourself a "Good Prepper".
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02-15-2013, 13:20
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Originally Posted by superhornet
A...and a beautiful two holer with the applicable newspapers and Sears catalog...
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Thanks for the reminder. Since the Sears catalog now uses glossy paper, I should buy some copies of "It Takes a Village" and "The Audacity of Hope" for this use.
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02-15-2013, 15:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by quake
Thanks for the reminder. Since the Sears catalog now uses glossy paper, I should buy some copies of "It Takes a Village" and "The Audacity of Hope" for this use.
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Good choices in outhouse literiture... you might add "Dreams from my father" to your list.
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02-15-2013, 18:56
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#243
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Ok - I am officially siding with the "Nuke from Orbit" crowd now!
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02-16-2013, 08:53
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A couple of my questions after reading this whole thread are,
1: why is it that so many people think you cannot live off wildlife and crops?
2:How in the hell did man make it before canned food?
3:Why do others get so hung up on being right on the interweb?
4:Since when do city-folk think they "know" what it takes to survive without processed foods?
5:And why do they think I care what they think about the country, bugging out, hunting or anything else, country related?
And for a closer, DO NOT BUG OUT,,stay in your homes in the event of a disaster, the .gov will save you. There is nothing to eat in the country, you will die within hours due to exposure.
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02-16-2013, 09:18
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Originally Posted by Bravo 1
A couple of my questions after reading this whole thread are,
1: why is it that so many people think you cannot live off wildlife and crops?
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Because almost nobody has actually done it in over 50 years or a generation or two.
And modern farming ag has let the population explode beyond a reasonable balance. We might NOT be able to at this point...
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2:How in the hell did man make it before canned food?
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He didn't always make it.
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3:Why do others get so hung up on being right on the interweb?
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I have no idea. I think it is a lot of people who are wrong in real life most of the time.
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4:Since when do city-folk think they "know" what it takes to survive without processed foods?
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Based on my address, you'd think I was city folk. City folk come from somewhere. Often it is the country.
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5:And why do they think I care what they think about the country, bugging out, hunting or anything else, country related?
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Because you are posting in the thread maybe?
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And for a closer, DO NOT BUG OUT,,stay in your homes in the event of a disaster, the .gov will save you. There is nothing to eat in the country, you will die within hours due to exposure.
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But I really think a good well prepared bug in is generally / often a way better strategy than an ill conceived bug out....
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02-16-2013, 11:55
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Originally Posted by Aceman
Because almost nobody has actually done it in over 50 years or a generation or two.
And modern farming ag has let the population explode beyond a reasonable balance. We might NOT be able to at this point...
He didn't always make it.
I have no idea. I think it is a lot of people who are wrong in real life most of the time.
Based on my address, you'd think I was city folk. City folk come from somewhere. Often it is the country.
Because you are posting in the thread maybe?
But I really think a good well prepared bug in is generally / often a way better strategy than an ill conceived bug out....
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Aceman nailed it.
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Originally Posted by Bravo 1
A couple of my questions after reading this whole thread are,
1: why is it that so many people think you cannot live off wildlife and crops?
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And, the wildlife wouldn't last too long.
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02-16-2013, 12:21
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02-16-2013, 14:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bravo 1
A couple of my questions after reading this whole thread are,
1: why is it that so many people think you cannot live off wildlife and crops?
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Because people outnumber large forms of wildlife by 10, 20, or more to one, depending on where you live. It might be possible to survive off one's crops, but if you want a steady supply of meat, I think it will require a "crop" of chickens or rabbits. And of course, a way to feed them.
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Originally Posted by Bravo 1
2:How in the hell did man make it before canned food?
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Fewer people, more wildlife. Fewer people, more farmers.
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02-16-2013, 16:35
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Originally Posted by Donn57
Fewer people, more wildlife. Fewer people, more farmers.
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I think Donn is right about the above part.
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02-17-2013, 03:23
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Originally Posted by Stevekozak
I think Donn is right about the above part.
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He is - the world hit 1 billion people in 1800. It is estimated to hit 10 billion in 2050/60. From now to then that is about a 40% increase in people in the world who need, food, clothing, shelter, and jobs. If there is a SHTF event we can plan on, it is that.
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