[Hedo1]

Government by and for the people. If enough of them organize, form a representative government and abide by the laws of the state, seems they'd be able to form a police force as well. I mean we let schools have a PD, what's wrong with a neighborhood doing so.

[Ohio Copper]

Originally Posted by Hedo1

Government by and for the people. If enough of them organize, form a representative government and abide by the laws of the state, seems they'd be able to form a police force as well. I mean we let schools have a PD, what's wrong with a neighborhood doing so.

It just got real.


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[razdog76]

Originally Posted by Ohio Copper

I take great pleasure in telling "HOA board members" to piss off at a scene.

You really just pulled up in the middle of these police cars and fire trucks, with all these people in uniform running around, to proclaim that you're on the HOA board and demand to know what's going on? Yeah, this is your only warning to GTFO or be arrested.


Can you tell I've dealt with these mutts before?


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They are huge PITA... the HOA presidents, cannot get it through their skulls, that if it isn't state law I can't enforce it as a Deputy Sheriff. Next on the list is township trustees, wanting parking enforcement with no signage, and code violations.

[Ohio Copper]

Originally Posted by razdog76

They are huge PITA... the HOA presidents, cannot get it through their skulls, that if it isn't state law I can't enforce it as a Deputy Sheriff. Next on the list is township trustees, wanting parking enforcement with no signage, and code violations.

When I first started four years ago I got a noise complaint one night at the local HOA, roughly 2200 hours. I knock on the door of the condo and it's two young kids and their dad playing XBOX.

I couldn't hear it from the street (if it's not more than 150 feet it's not an ordinance violation) but you could hear it inside the house and I'm sure you could hear it ever so faintly next door. Just so happens the queen bee lives next door.


She couldn't fathom why I didn't tell them to shut it off. Just because it's annoying you doesn't mean it's illegal. The dad volunteered to turn it down and he advised he was probably going to move his TV around so as not to disturb the adjoining wall. We all BS'd for 10 minutes or so and then I let the two boys play with the lights in the patrol car. Turns up the guy is a C.O at the next county jail over. Really nice guy and I regularly stop and shoot the bull with all of them when they are out.

We could both see her staring through the blinds at us and we were both

She's the same one who rolls up on scenes in the area and DEMANDS to know what's going on.

Karma's a byatch though because I guess in the next jurisdiction she caught a failure to comply arrest because she decided to drive around a patrol car blocking the roadway of a fatal crash.

I could never EVER live in one of those places.

[ditchdoc24]

Stone Mountain Park has their own Public Safety department. Their Officers are sworn and have powers of arrest on Park property. http://www.stonemountainpark.com/ Actually, their Assistant Chief used to be my Lt when I was a hosedragger/paramedic years ago.

The county I work in has only one subdivision with a HOA and they have a security guard. All he does is ride around and call us when he sees something.

[Hack]

Other than security with limited arrest authority I haven't heard of that here. I don't care for HOA organizations.

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[texmex]

Here in Texas, if you do not pay your HOA dues, they can file a lawsuit and foreclose on your house. People don't pay their HOA dues, then get notice of the lawsuit and ignore that, then a deputy shows up and hands them a Notice of Sale for their property. If they don't settle with the HOA by paying the fees, penalties, attorney fees and court costs, their home will be sold at public auction on the courthouse steps. Some of the HOA meetings are so heated, they hire off duty officers to keep the peace at the meetings.

[krathis]

HOAs have their place and if managed properly serve their purpose. I live in a HOA community and have served on the board and president in the past. It's a thankless job, and one I will probably never do again, but it's a necessary evil. I'm the youngest person in the community (most are retirees) and like the many posts above, they tend to focus on petty stuff they should not be focusing on. I'm a LEO in the town next door and have the local PD forward me copies of anything wacky that goes on in the community.

I live here and have a vested interest in locking this place down against general d-baggery. Biggest problems are from the small amount of renters we have, and "salesmen" and other people trespassing even though both entrances are clearly marked. Does the board still have their pet peeves about parking on the street and what kind of front door I can install? Sure..but they're also keeping my neighbors from painting their houses purple and parking on the front lawns like this is some housing project. It's all about balance.

[Glockdude1]

Originally Posted by Hack

Other than security with limited arrest authority I haven't heard of that here. I don't care for HOA organizations.

Sent from my communicator.

[uhlawpup]

I wish our association could have a police department.

We do have a public works department, though, and, as president, I get to be director. It consists of six orange cones I can borrow from a neighbor, and a bag of asphalt patch and a tamper that I get to buy. I am in charge of patching alley potholes.

It is good to be president...

[razdog76]

The perfect storm... a CALEA accredited HOA!

[indigent]

Originally Posted by razdog76

The perfect storm... a CALEA accredited HOA!

[norm357]

There are several private police departments in GA.

The already mention Stone Mt Dept of Public Safety.
Cnn Center police.
Railroad police.
Most private universities have police depts. The Largest private college being Emory University.

[JerryVO]

Originally Posted by krathis

HOAs have their place and if managed properly serve their purpose. I live in a HOA community and have served on the board and president in the past. It's a thankless job, and one I will probably never do again, but it's a necessary evil. I'm the youngest person in the community (most are retirees) and like the many posts above, they tend to focus on petty stuff they should not be focusing on.

. It's all about balance.

^^THIS
So many people are quick to complain about HOAs on here and every other internet forum in the world but when you ask how many meetings they have been to or ask if they have tried to run for the board themselves the answer is usually 0 and no. I see the same thing in my community as well. So many people complain but few residents take action. This is the reason I have sat on my HOA as president for 5 years now. I will not let our community go down the path as so many other HOAs that become tyrannical and bloated. My job is to keep everyone's property values up through continuity of the community in assuring upkeep and visual appeal but apply logic to situations and not fine an elderly man with a dead patch of grass in the middle of dry season instead of pitching in and getting people to help him out. I always tell people who stop me on the street as I am walking around to come to the meeting if they have a problem they want addresses or a complaint on how things are being run but they would rather complain than take action.

[/rant]

Sorry had to get that off my chest after my HOA meeting 2 days ago.

[jpa]

Funny, I just came across a link to this article on Second City Cop

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,3707885.story

I've heard of this happening in the upper-end guard gated communities here where they actually had private security (in crown vics with push bumpers of course) running radar and attempting to make traffic stops. Apparently in IL it's legal for an HOA to allow police impersonators to falsely imprison people.

[FH Alum]

Cnn Center police.

Wait...What????? CNN has their own sworn PD?

That seems to be a bit hypocritical and explains a lot. Who cares about rights when you have your own private force at your control.

[Walter Bishop]

In Virginia, these private police are known as Special Conservators of the Peace and within their special jurisdiction they have the power to make warrantless arrests and traffic enforcement. I believe the only thing they cannot do is execute warrants. They are appointed by a circuit court judge who sets their geographic jurisdiction which can be as small as the employers private property or as large as the entire circuit court. This could be an entire county.

[lawman800]

Originally Posted by jopela

^^THIS
So many people are quick to complain about HOAs on here and every other internet forum in the world but when you ask how many meetings they have been to or ask if they have tried to run for the board themselves the answer is usually 0 and no. I see the same thing in my community as well. So many people complain but few residents take action. This is the reason I have sat on my HOA as president for 5 years now. I will not let our community go down the path as so many other HOAs that become tyrannical and bloated. My job is to keep everyone's property values up through continuity of the community in assuring upkeep and visual appeal but apply logic to situations and not fine an elderly man with a dead patch of grass in the middle of dry season instead of pitching in and getting people to help him out. I always tell people who stop me on the street as I am walking around to come to the meeting if they have a problem they want addresses or a complaint on how things are being run but they would rather complain than take action.

[/rant]

Sorry had to get that off my chest after my HOA meeting 2 days ago.

Yeah, I would but then I had a full-time job which dictated that I be away from home at least 1+2-14 hours a day and of course, the tyrant witch always made meetings at very inconvenient, if not impossible, times.

I tried making one and missed it by a bit and caught what was basically a farce of a meeting where nobody was allowed to participate and everyone just gave up in disgust. There were tons of opposition but the old retired villains just had their own en bloc stranglehold on the whole place. I moved out around the two year mark. I had enough.

[Bill Lumberg]

Last time I was there, they had security guards, but most of them were retired police.

Originally Posted by FH Alum

Wait...What????? CNN has their own sworn PD?

That seems to be a bit hypocritical and explains a lot. Who cares about rights when you have your own private force at your control.

[steveksux]

So what do the Homeowner Association Police have on the back of their raid jackets? HOMO POLICE? : whistling:

I think we can all agree Association would be too big to fit and the abbreviation would be much too awkward to add to that.

Randy

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[knoxvegasdaddy]

Originally Posted by razdog76

The perfect storm... a CALEA accredited HOA!

....that are issued 10MM sidearms

[knoxvegasdaddy]

If an H.O.A. policeman knocks on my door without an appointment, and is not wearing his hat, do I REALLY have to bring my trash can in from the curb RIGHT THEN, or can it wait until tomorrow?

[razdog76]

Originally Posted by knoxvegasdaddy

If an H.O.A. policeman knocks on my door without an appointment, and is not wearing his hat, do I REALLY have to bring my trash can in from the curb RIGHT THEN, or can it wait until tomorrow?

That's like the beginning of a bad joke, An HOA Policeman walks into a bar...

[steveksux]

Originally Posted by razdog76

That's like the beginning of a bad joke, An HOA Policeman walks into a bar...

More power to you if you can turn that into a worse joke than mine...

Randy

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[lawman800]

The raid jacket alone would be worth it... HO POLICE. Wear that to your local main drag to scare all the ladies of the night.