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Old 01-25-2013, 10:43   #21
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Here is the NCGS chapter that deals with company police: http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascript...?Chapter=0074E

They are fully sworn and have jurisdiction on the property they control.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:57   #22
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Here in Texas, private universities can, and usually do, have Police Departments (e.g. Rice, Baylor). The Texas and Southwestern Cattle Raisers Association has a law enforcement division. Although they are paid by the Association, they are commissioned by Texas DPS as Special Rangers and/or Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation. There are also Railroad Police Officers. They all have to meet the requirements of Texas peace officers.

I was hoping they would pass legislation allowing Public Utility Districts to start police departments. "Stop in the name of the PUD" just has a certain ring to it.

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Old 01-25-2013, 17:04   #23
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Sunriver, Oregon PD started that way.

http://www.sunriversd.org/policepage.htm
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Old 01-25-2013, 18:07   #24
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I believe Cedar Point amusement park in Sandusky, Ohio has a private police department.
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Old 01-25-2013, 18:51   #25
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Thankfully, properly, any place I've been, police/law enforcement could only be designated by the government or a government agency, be it local/state/federal/tribal.
As are these officers. The HOA can't simply hire some guys, slap some lights on a car, and call it a Police Department.

Virginia law specifies that any person appointed under the code they reference must be appointed by the circuit court judge for the jurusdiction for a specific term of service (with an end date) and must receive state mandated training.
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Government by and for the people. If enough of them organize, form a representative government and abide by the laws of the state, seems they'd be able to form a police force as well. I mean we let schools have a PD, what's wrong with a neighborhood doing so.
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Government by and for the people. If enough of them organize, form a representative government and abide by the laws of the state, seems they'd be able to form a police force as well. I mean we let schools have a PD, what's wrong with a neighborhood doing so.
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Old 01-25-2013, 21:38   #28
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I take great pleasure in telling "HOA board members" to piss off at a scene.

You really just pulled up in the middle of these police cars and fire trucks, with all these people in uniform running around, to proclaim that you're on the HOA board and demand to know what's going on? Yeah, this is your only warning to GTFO or be arrested.


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They are huge PITA... the HOA presidents, cannot get it through their skulls, that if it isn't state law I can't enforce it as a Deputy Sheriff. Next on the list is township trustees, wanting parking enforcement with no signage, and code violations.
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They are huge PITA... the HOA presidents, cannot get it through their skulls, that if it isn't state law I can't enforce it as a Deputy Sheriff. Next on the list is township trustees, wanting parking enforcement with no signage, and code violations.
When I first started four years ago I got a noise complaint one night at the local HOA, roughly 2200 hours. I knock on the door of the condo and it's two young kids and their dad playing XBOX.

I couldn't hear it from the street (if it's not more than 150 feet it's not an ordinance violation) but you could hear it inside the house and I'm sure you could hear it ever so faintly next door. Just so happens the queen bee lives next door.


She couldn't fathom why I didn't tell them to shut it off. Just because it's annoying you doesn't mean it's illegal. The dad volunteered to turn it down and he advised he was probably going to move his TV around so as not to disturb the adjoining wall. We all BS'd for 10 minutes or so and then I let the two boys play with the lights in the patrol car. Turns up the guy is a C.O at the next county jail over. Really nice guy and I regularly stop and shoot the bull with all of them when they are out.

We could both see her staring through the blinds at us and we were both

She's the same one who rolls up on scenes in the area and DEMANDS to know what's going on.

Karma's a byatch though because I guess in the next jurisdiction she caught a failure to comply arrest because she decided to drive around a patrol car blocking the roadway of a fatal crash.

I could never EVER live in one of those places.

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Old 01-26-2013, 02:52   #30
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Stone Mountain Park has their own Public Safety department. Their Officers are sworn and have powers of arrest on Park property. http://www.stonemountainpark.com/ Actually, their Assistant Chief used to be my Lt when I was a hosedragger/paramedic years ago.

The county I work in has only one subdivision with a HOA and they have a security guard. All he does is ride around and call us when he sees something.
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:29   #31
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Other than security with limited arrest authority I haven't heard of that here. I don't care for HOA organizations.

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Here in Texas, if you do not pay your HOA dues, they can file a lawsuit and foreclose on your house. People don't pay their HOA dues, then get notice of the lawsuit and ignore that, then a deputy shows up and hands them a Notice of Sale for their property. If they don't settle with the HOA by paying the fees, penalties, attorney fees and court costs, their home will be sold at public auction on the courthouse steps. Some of the HOA meetings are so heated, they hire off duty officers to keep the peace at the meetings.
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:55   #33
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HOAs have their place and if managed properly serve their purpose. I live in a HOA community and have served on the board and president in the past. It's a thankless job, and one I will probably never do again, but it's a necessary evil. I'm the youngest person in the community (most are retirees) and like the many posts above, they tend to focus on petty stuff they should not be focusing on. I'm a LEO in the town next door and have the local PD forward me copies of anything wacky that goes on in the community.

I live here and have a vested interest in locking this place down against general d-baggery. Biggest problems are from the small amount of renters we have, and "salesmen" and other people trespassing even though both entrances are clearly marked. Does the board still have their pet peeves about parking on the street and what kind of front door I can install? Sure..but they're also keeping my neighbors from painting their houses purple and parking on the front lawns like this is some housing project. It's all about balance.

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Old 01-27-2013, 09:19   #34
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Other than security with limited arrest authority I haven't heard of that here. I don't care for HOA organizations.

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I wish our association could have a police department.

We do have a public works department, though, and, as president, I get to be director. It consists of six orange cones I can borrow from a neighbor, and a bag of asphalt patch and a tamper that I get to buy. I am in charge of patching alley potholes.

It is good to be president...
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Old 01-27-2013, 23:22   #36
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Old 01-29-2013, 22:50   #38
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There are several private police departments in GA.

The already mention Stone Mt Dept of Public Safety.
Cnn Center police.
Railroad police.
Most private universities have police depts. The Largest private college being Emory University.
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HOAs have their place and if managed properly serve their purpose. I live in a HOA community and have served on the board and president in the past. It's a thankless job, and one I will probably never do again, but it's a necessary evil. I'm the youngest person in the community (most are retirees) and like the many posts above, they tend to focus on petty stuff they should not be focusing on.

. It's all about balance.
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So many people are quick to complain about HOAs on here and every other internet forum in the world but when you ask how many meetings they have been to or ask if they have tried to run for the board themselves the answer is usually 0 and no. I see the same thing in my community as well. So many people complain but few residents take action. This is the reason I have sat on my HOA as president for 5 years now. I will not let our community go down the path as so many other HOAs that become tyrannical and bloated. My job is to keep everyone's property values up through continuity of the community in assuring upkeep and visual appeal but apply logic to situations and not fine an elderly man with a dead patch of grass in the middle of dry season instead of pitching in and getting people to help him out. I always tell people who stop me on the street as I am walking around to come to the meeting if they have a problem they want addresses or a complaint on how things are being run but they would rather complain than take action.

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Funny, I just came across a link to this article on Second City Cop

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,3707885.story

I've heard of this happening in the upper-end guard gated communities here where they actually had private security (in crown vics with push bumpers of course) running radar and attempting to make traffic stops. Apparently in IL it's legal for an HOA to allow police impersonators to falsely imprison people.
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