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Old 01-23-2013, 14:05   #21
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I have an older (1982), Marlin in 45-70. But see the advantage of a 30-30 with more round capacity and better availability of ammo. Cheers.
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Old 01-23-2013, 21:20   #22
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All of these mentions of pistol caliber carbines without a mention of Henry? Scandalous. It's probably the best lever going in terms of fit and finish.

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Old 01-24-2013, 03:55   #23
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That is beautiful!!
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:27   #24
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Truth be told you need several.

A couple in .22. Either a 9422, a Marlin 39 or a Henry. I guarantee you will shoot a .22 with a smile on your face.

Next, a Bambi killer. Traditional chambering will of course be a .30-30 either by Winchester 94 (a John M Browning design BTW) or a Marlin 336.

Pistol cartridge? A 92 series is traditional but Marlins 1894 is a helluva thing to own and shoot.

Wapiti or Big Bear? 45-70 or .30-06, maybe a .444. Could be a Win 95 or a Marlin 95 or a Browning BLR.

From a historical POV look up Smith & Wessons original design, the Volcanic Repeating Arm, both rifle and handguns, which evolved into the original Henry, which evolved... well, you get the idea.
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:06   #25
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I found myself lately watching westerns like my old man and grandfather. hell my dads only two channels are espn and the western channel. that goes for my grandfather who passed a couple years a go.
I often wondered as a kid what made my dad and grandfather watch those westerns all day like they did. i believe its because it brings them back to the reality of the good old days, when men were men. before cars and freeways. when man lived off the land and natural resources.

Anyway, watching these westerns lately makes me want to buy myself a Lever action rifle. not sure if i want it in .357 mag or 30-30.
Anyone have any suggestions on the best kind to get for the money. or best bang for the buck. right now i own two glock's a norinko ak-47, my grandfathers hawes .357 mag 6 shooter and my 270 hunting rifle. What are your outlooks on lever action? anything to look out for? i'm completely dumb to them.

Damn this is crazy. Since Christmas I've been glued to Encore Westerns...wth??? I've been looking at the rossi .357 in 20inch(10+1) or 24inch(13+1)-octagonal barrel. They were running between $475-$575 NIB at one point a few weeks ago on gunbroker. I don't really know if they stack up up there with Winchester/Henry/Marlin or maybe they do. But good luck trying to find a Winchester. They hold onto those babies.

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Old 01-24-2013, 05:43   #26
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Between the manufacturers, how durable is the magazine tube? Is it as durable as a Winchester Defender 1300?
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:15   #27
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All of these mentions of pistol caliber carbines without a mention of Henry? Scandalous. It's probably the best lever going in terms of fit and finish.

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I did mention the Henry.


I left one out I don't even consider it a option
the Henry Big Pile aka Big Boy,I would rather have a decent muzzle loader than Big Pile as they are more reliable.

There is a lack of gun smiths even willing to work on them,the good thing is the factory is willing to work on them.
Although there is the cost of shipping them back and forth.

I have yet to see a Henry rifle make it through a 10 stage match,one lady did get 7 stages under her belt before her Henry wouldn't eject spent rounds. SJ 40
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:37   #28
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I have a Rossi 92 rifle in 45 Colt. Stainless, with 24" octagonal barrel, and Marble sights.

It's one of my most fun rifles.
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Old 01-25-2013, 02:40   #29
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Damn this is crazy. Since Christmas I've been glued to Encore Westerns...wth??? I've been looking at the rossi .357 in 20inch(10+1) or 24inch(13+1)-octagonal barrel. They were running between $475-$575 NIB at one point a few weeks ago on gunbroker. I don't really know if they stack up up there with Winchester/Henry/Marlin or maybe they do. But good luck trying to find a Winchester. They hold onto those babies.
How old are you? i'm almost 32 years old. outside of Taken and the tv show series 24 (Jack bauer) most action movies are missing something huge, True manliness!! I'm starting to like the idea of having a horse and acres of land. hunting within a mile of my home
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:13   #30
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Hard not to love, and my personal favorite of all things. Fast, reliable, light, classic. Marlin would be my overall recommendation, but Winchester, Henry, Rossi...whatever. Handy for hunting, general woods use, and even HD for SHTF. Low key and likely not on the crazy gun ban lists (yet)

30-30 - just a great all around caliber for most all game most places. Great for deer in the woods. It's the 7.62x39 caliber of the old west. Great medium caliber in every way. Good to 150 yds+, which is further than most will shoot. Hornady Leverevolution ammo rocks.

.357 - I really like this. .357 from 16-20" is sporty fast. Capable of small/moderate deer to 100+ if you can shoot. The option for .38, 38+p, .357 is awesome for cheap or no recoil or business. Paired with a .357 pistol is great for SHTF purposes also.

.44 - same deal as .357, and superior boom/stop factor in every way.

.45 long colt - If you REALLY want to get your Cowboy on

.45-70 - consider if you want to shoot anything (and I mean ANYTHING) big. Not fun, but just awesome from a pure effectiveness factor.

Decision point: If you will be hunting deer, definitely get the 30-30. If you KNOW you will also get a pistol, get .357 or .44. Choose that based on your pistol preferences.

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Old 01-25-2013, 06:54   #31
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A lot of people underestimate the .30-30. My cousin killed her first buck back in November at 206yds with a Marlin and a 2-7x Leupold compact. Dropped him in his tracks, I was with her. It takes a little work but the round has plenty of power if you know how to shoot it. The rifle was sighted in at 100yds, when the buck wouldn't come in, I told her to line the vertical crosshair up with his front leg and the horizontal with the top of his back. Boom! dead buck. I knew from years of hunting deer with a .30-30 that there would be 6-8" drop at 200 if sighted in at 100. It's not that the round won't kill at long range, it's that most people can't shoot it well enough to kill at long range.

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Old 01-25-2013, 08:35   #32
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The .44 WCF, also called the .44-40 is the real frontier era chambering for the Winchester lever rifles. The lever actions were not chambered in .45 Colt until the 1990s for the SASS competition shooters.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:02   #33
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A lot of people underestimate the .30-30. My cousin killed her first buck back in November at 206yds with a Marlin and a 2-7x Leupold compact. Dropped him in his tracks, I was with her. It takes a little work but the round has plenty of power if you know how to shoot it. The rifle was sighted in at 100yds, when the buck wouldn't come in, I told her to line the vertical crosshair up with his front leg and the horizontal with the top of his back. Boom! dead buck. I knew from years of hunting deer with a .30-30 that there would be 6-8" drop at 200 if sighted in at 100. It's not that the round won't kill at long range, it's that most people can't shoot it well enough to kill at long range.

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Old 01-25-2013, 16:28   #34
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Anyone know of a place to a GS Marlin tricked out? Been wanting to get a new one and wanted it have it engraved, have the action smoothed and probably new sights installed. Thought maybe a nice rail on it with a quality red dot might be cool as well.
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Bought a pre-64 Winchester .30-30 some 15 years ago for $100. Love the thing! Shoots straight and true, always feeds and always ejects. Cartridge is formidable and easy to find. Would not sell it, trade it or give it away for any amount.

Bought a Rossi M92 in .44 Mag a few years ago and love it as well. Easy shooting with even my heavy weight loads, plus it carries well. As my safe contains more than a couple of .44 revolvers, it just made sense. The thicker rim on the .44 Mag and Special rounds makes it very well suited to the '92 design. It is a comforting thought, having 11 300 grain full house loads and an 18" barrel to launch them from in hand.
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Old 01-25-2013, 17:40   #36
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Thereare still plenty of used Win 94s and Marlin 336 rifles on the used rack at my local haunt. In 30-30, they are hard to touch as an all around fast handling rifle out to 150-200yrds with the right ammo.
They aren't a half-bad combat weapon either, as the 30-30 matches up nicely to the 'x39' Russian and these rifles can be topped off as you go.
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Old 01-25-2013, 19:41   #37
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Anyone know of a place to a GS Marlin tricked out? Been wanting to get a new one and wanted it have it engraved, have the action smoothed and probably new sights installed. Thought maybe a nice rail on it with a quality red dot might be cool as well.
While many smiths can do what you want, these guys... I hear they're pretty good with Marlins. They just opened a shop in Las Vegas (which is closer to to Texas than their Alaska shop).

http://www.wildwestguns.com/
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Old 01-25-2013, 19:56   #38
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Old 01-26-2013, 16:51   #39
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Old 01-26-2013, 19:16   #40
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I've got a Winchester 94AE in .44mag, nice little rifle. Pairs well with my Ruger Super Blackhawk
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