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Old 01-22-2013, 19:36   #126
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Technology could make those carrying a handgun akin to African-Americans under Jim Crow.

We'll need a Civil Rights Act. To stop private businesses from banning us.
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Old 01-22-2013, 20:24   #127
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Does Texas have a law that allows for gun owners to pack on private properties like in Florida?
Yes, Texas has a law allowing you to have your firearm in your vehicle, even on company premise. Doesn't protect you if you carry it in to the building, but the employer can not take action for having a firearm in the vehicle.
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Old 01-22-2013, 20:36   #128
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Funny, my VW is very gun friendly...
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Old 01-22-2013, 20:47   #129
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Agreed. (But how come nobody ever says you MUST carry if you come here...:confused: )

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I could see the look on someone's face. "Please step through the metal detector. It didn't buzz, please leave the premises untill you are properly armed."
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Old 01-22-2013, 21:36   #130
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Technology could make those carrying a handgun akin to African-Americans under Jim Crow.

We'll need a Civil Rights Act. To stop private businesses from banning us.
You are not being banned, the gun is. Your analogy to Jim Crow simply doesn't work because African-Americans can't leave their blackness in the car. You are simply not your gun. Now, if congress passes a law saying you can't carry where you used to, well, that's quite different. HH
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:55   #131
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A good bomb dog will hit on a fired gun (even if it's been cleaned) or a spent casing. Gun-specific training isn't absolutely necessary. Our bomb dogs have hit on guns plenty of times, and have alerted to something as small as one spent .40S&W casing, 2 months old, inside a closed vehicle, in the trunk, under the carpet, under the spare. Hard to fathom.
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The gun dog is trained to focus on odor that relates exclusively to the oils, powder and residue commonly associated with a dischared firearm and not human odor.
Another benefit to a gun canine under the aforementioned circumstances is that the dog handler does not have to worry about human scent contamination of the area to be searched. Every handler, at some point in time, has come across a scene where their colleagues have inadvertently trampled through the area to be searched. With the use a gun dog, those issues are not a concern for the gun dog handler that is trying to locate a firearm, because the dog focuses only on the odor associated with guns and ammunition.
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:58   #132
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I understand VW want's to take measures to keep their plant safe. However I disagree with them not allowing employees to keep firearms in a vehicle. If the firearm is locked and remains in the vehicle, then it is not harming anyone or potentially hurting them in any way. I'm disappointed in VW, they are one of my favorite auto manufacturers.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:20   #133
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I understand VW want's to take measures to keep their plant safe. However I disagree with them not allowing employees to keep firearms in a vehicle. If the firearm is locked and remains in the vehicle, then it is not harming anyone or potentially hurting them in any way. I'm disappointed in VW, they are one of my favorite auto manufacturers.
Do you use petrol products? Then also be prepared for disappointment at the various refineries. They don't allow employees or contractors to have weapons and alcoholic beverages, not even empty shell casings or empty booze bottles, in cars parked in their parking lots either.
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Their entire marketing scheme is towards emasculated 30-something males and trendy hipster females. Big surprise.
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Old 01-26-2013, 17:10   #135
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Their entire marketing scheme is towards emasculated 30-something males and trendy hipster females. Big surprise.
What about VW's other production lines of Audi and Lamborghini? Marketing schemes towards fat, overweighted, over-the-hill males who fancy themselves to be some sort of macho race car drivers?
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Old 01-26-2013, 17:18   #136
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What about VW's other production lines of Audi and Lamborghini? Marketing schemes towards fat, overweighted, over-the-hill males who fancy themselves to be some sort of macho race car drivers?
I don't know...maybe...can't really recall any of their ads. VW's latest one where the guy can't even throw a ball to his kid is an example though.
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Old 01-27-2013, 00:14   #137
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I don't know...maybe...can't really recall any of their ads. VW's latest one where the guy can't even throw a ball to his kid is an example though.
Salary is the measure of a man, not ball throwing. HH
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:58   #138
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Best VW commercial ever!

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Old 01-27-2013, 09:31   #139
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:39   #140
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Of course not. They are infringing on my Freedom of Religion, and it has nothing to do with the work.



But the VW plant isn't in Georgia, now, is it?
Why are your First amendment rights more important than your Second amendment rights.

How about I bear arms per the 2nd and promise not to sway my co-workers to my way of thinking (I keep my arms concealed and do testify to them). I also promise not to shoot them, or force them to possess arms.

There is NO reason that the First amendment should be more protected or more important than the Second. If my gun is concealed, on my person or in my car, what does that have to with getting my job done? Having guns does not affect my work performance (exclude firefighters or other jobs subjected to extreme heat) any more than my religion, national origin, race, or gender does. Guns in cars is not a safety issue.
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:42   #141
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Uh? Wow! Is that really a commercial produced by VW? I can't believe the Muslims would not be rioting in the steets over this. In the US they would be sued to bankruptcy over false advertising.
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Old 01-27-2013, 15:56   #142
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Funny, my VW is very gun friendly...
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My 68 Beetle convertible and my wife's 2012 turbo are both very pro gun.

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Old 01-27-2013, 16:04   #143
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Salary is the measure of a man, not ball throwing. HH
Agreed 100%.
However, many sad beings do not see it this way.
Much as those sad creatures who are failures at life, but use vehicles to try and pull off the illusion of prosperity.

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Old 01-28-2013, 09:36   #144
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Why are your First amendment rights more important than your Second amendment rights.
So, it's my First Amendment rights? You don't have it too? You don't believe in it?

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How about I bear arms per the 2nd and promise not to sway my co-workers to my way of thinking (I keep my arms concealed and do testify to them). I also promise not to shoot them, or force them to possess arms.
How about you start up your own company and do that?

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There is NO reason that the First amendment should be more protected or more important than the Second.
If you don't understand by now the importance of freedom of thoughts and beliefs then I have no more words for you. Cogito Ergo Sum.

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If my gun is concealed, on my person or in my car, what does that have to with getting my job done? Having guns does not affect my work performance (exclude firefighters or other jobs subjected to extreme heat) any more than my religion, national origin, race, or gender does. Guns in cars is not a safety issue.
Not having guns on another's private properties also don't affect your work performance either.
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So, it's my First Amendment rights? You don't have it too? You don't believe in it?



How about you start up your own company and do that?



If you don't understand by now the importance of freedom of thoughts and beliefs then I have no more words for you. Cogito Ergo Sum.



Not having guns on another's private properties also don't affect your work performance either.
Yes of course I have 1st and 2nd amendment rights, but I was talking to you and 2nd person is appropriate grammar as well.

Being on private property does not allow someone to willy nilly violate all of your rights. They cannot abbrogate you right to private property and take your stuff. They cannot abbrogate your right to be secure in your person, they cannot rape you without consequences. The Constitution and all of its amendments is not just a limit on the federal government, but a basis for ALL of our laws.

Again why are your 1st amendment rights more important than your 2nd amendment rights? I did not notice any indication of prioritization of our rights in the constitution. However, if you believe that the order of the amendments is an indicator, then it would mean the second is more important that the 4th and 5th amendments and we should not lose the right to bear arms with a felony after completion of the court supervision.

I look forward to your explanation.
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