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01-21-2013, 15:04
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#176
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Originally Posted by HollowHead
STATE POLICE IDENTIFY WEAPONS USED, IN SANDY HOOK INVESTIGATION. Would a comma have made it a little more clear? HH
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NO,NO,NO
The lack of a comma proves it was a conspiracy, because everyone knows, even though they can pull of the whole incident, conspirators have lousy grammatical skills.
Look it up for yourself. It's on the internet somewhere.
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01-21-2013, 15:07
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Originally Posted by G19G20
Still no mention that the "suspect's car" was registered to someone that's never been mentioned by the media since this incident occurred?
No name of the "suspect". Remember to pay as much attention to what they don't say as what they do say. The "suspect's car" wasn't registered to anyone named Lanza.
Also, why does the press release say "STATE POLICE IDENTIFY WEAPONS USED IN SANDY HOOK INVESTIGATION;"
That's very strange wording. Whoever wrote that press release is either a moron or is purposely using vague language that is open to interpretation.
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01-21-2013, 15:21
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#178
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Originally Posted by RussP
Please help me.
What is it about the Glockdude1's post that changes the odor in your room?
Here's the original list from the Release:Thanks...
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Maybe, you would like to re-read my post. I was agreeing with Glockdude1 questioning why the capacity of the AR was reported but not the capacity of the pistols. It wasn't his post that changed the odor in the room. It was the slant of the report as it has changed so many times, it makes one wonder where the truth really is.
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01-21-2013, 16:14
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#179
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Originally Posted by skorper
When was that? I have never seen 20 rounders as military issue.
Am I correct in supposing it was right after the transition from the M-14?
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I resigned my comission in 1989 - and had never been issued a 30-round magazine.
I like the 20s for prone and bench shooting. I don't mind it if others want 30s. Whatever works, eh?
in combat - that would be another story.
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01-21-2013, 17:29
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#180
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Originally Posted by JuneyBooney
That is because small stuff is normally called clips and the ole timers from before most of us called them all the same thing. As long as I know what people are talking about I don't worry about it. 
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I've never worried about it either. He's a good guy, still has two bullets in his torso from incidents on the job and still carries. I call it a mag, he calls it a clip. We both know what each other is referring to. Ask anyone who doesn't know to hand you the clip and you'll likely get handed a magazine. Ask the same person to hand you the magazine and you'll likely get handed some reading material. Now where did I leave my Crescent wrench? Ah! Right next to my Channellocks.
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01-21-2013, 17:36
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#181
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Originally Posted by GeneralSnafu
Maybe, you would like to re-read my post. I was agreeing with Glockdude1 questioning why the capacity of the AR was reported but not the capacity of the pistols. It wasn't his post that changed the odor in the room. It was the slant of the report as it has changed so many times, it makes one wonder where the truth really is.
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As far as I know and can remember, CSP has not issued more than or anything different than what is in the press release.
The main stream media has been all over the map, often disagreeing with itself.
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01-21-2013, 17:37
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Originally Posted by SevenSixtyTwo
I've never worried about it either. He's a good guy, still has two bullets in his torso from incidents on the job and still carries. I call it a mag, he calls it a clip. We both know what each other is referring to. Ask anyone who doesn't know to hand you the clip and you'll likely get handed a magazine. Ask the same person to hand you the magazine and you'll likely get handed some reading material. Now where did I leave my Crescent wrench? Ah! Right next to my Channellocks. 
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Kleenex
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01-21-2013, 17:44
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Gents, one of the guys at my Troop is now tasked with going through, sorting, and summarizing all the 911 calls and radio transmissions. It's HUNDREDS of pages long, and he has to personally listen to the calls and go through each one. To quote BA Baracus "I pity the fool". Its a ton of work, and hes one guy. This report will take months to get squared away and complete. We kill a tree for a non-injury car crash, it's going to take a while.
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01-21-2013, 17:52
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#184
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Originally Posted by Austin Millbarge
Gents, one of the guys at my Troop is now tasked with going through, sorting, and summarizing all the 911 calls and radio transmissions. It's HUNDREDS of pages long, and he has to personally listen to the calls and go through each one. To quote BA Baracus "I pity the fool". Its a ton of work, and hes one guy. This report will take months to get squared away and complete. We kill a tree for a non-injury car crash, it's going to take a while.
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Troop A, Southbury? HH
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01-21-2013, 19:01
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Originally Posted by countrygun
and you base this on what fantasy?
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It was a partially tongue in cheek answer. There is man named James Files who is currently incarcerated who claims to be the Grassy Knoll shooter, and that was the weapon he claims to have used.
I say "partially" tongue in cheek, because although I am skeptical of James Files claims, I am also skeptical of the claim that Oswald acted alone.
When the President of the United States is assassinated, what seems more likely... That those who stood to gain something from his death were involved or complicit in the act, or that the stereotypical "lone gunman" is solely responsible?
I realize this view is unpopular here at GT, but I make no apologies.
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01-21-2013, 19:03
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#186
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Originally Posted by HollowHead
Troop A, Southbury? HH
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Litchfield.
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01-21-2013, 23:24
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#187
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Originally Posted by Dragoon44
But what weapons did the shooter on the grassy knoll have?

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I was wondering the same thing ...
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01-22-2013, 07:06
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#188
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gallium
I have dibs on those Bushmaster clips! - Irresputible proof this was not actually from an actual LE agency.
Nice try Russ!! Did they stage the moon landing in yer back yard??? huh? huh?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by caponec2
umm did you click the link? its directly quoted from the ct.gov website...
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You must be new here...
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01-22-2013, 08:47
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OK I really feel this is plain as day governmental cover up. much be pressure from fed's I happen to talked and know one officers and the
1. Bushmaster .223 caliber-- model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round clips
was not found inside school better watch what you post, there more more pictures out there to support this . I sent my info to the department, I will leave it at this and no more will be said .
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Originally Posted by RussP
http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?Q=517284&A=4226
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
January 18, 2013
** UPDATE **
STATE POLICE IDENTIFY WEAPONS USED IN SANDY HOOK INVESTIGATION;
INVESTIGATION CONTINUES
In previous press conferences, the Connecticut State Police clearly identified all of the weapons seized from the crime scene at Sandy Hook Elementary School.
To eliminate any confusion or misinformation, we will again describe and identify the weapons seized at the school crime scene.
Seized inside the school:
#1. Bushmaster .223 caliber-- model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round clips
#2. Glock 10 mm handgun
#3. Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun
Seized from suspect’s car in parking lot:
#4. Izhmash Canta-12 12 gauge Shotgun (seized from car in parking lot)
This case remains under investigation.
Lt. J. Paul Vance
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For those wishing to challenge or correct or call bull **** on the content of the press release, here is the email for the agency: DESPP.Feedback@ct.gov.
I am certain they will appreciate your input.
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01-22-2013, 08:58
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Originally Posted by Rinconjoe
OK I really feel this is plain as day governmental cover up. much be pressure from fed's I happen to talked and know one officers and the
1. Bushmaster .223 caliber-- model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round clips
was not found inside school better watch what you post, there more more pictures out there to support this . I sent my info to the department, I will leave it at this and no more will be said .
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You know one of which officers?
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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01-22-2013, 10:28
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Originally Posted by RussP
You know one of which officers?
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Certainly not the grammar police. HH
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01-22-2013, 10:58
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Originally Posted by HollowHead
Certainly not the grammar police. HH
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Be nice...
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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01-22-2013, 11:01
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#193
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rinconjoe
OK I really feel this is plain as day governmental cover up. much be pressure from fed's I happen to talked and know one officers and the
1. Bushmaster .223 caliber-- model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round clips
was not found inside school better watch what you post, there more more pictures out there to support this . I sent my info to the department, I will leave it at this and no more will be said .
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stop Posting these lies..Friend!
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01-22-2013, 11:06
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#194
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Originally Posted by Mayhem like Me
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I'm stealing this from another site.
"Now, to be clear, this fella was an undertaker. He was called in from our town and escorted to the school to assit with the bodies. When I found that out, my first comment to his was , "my God, it must have been terrible to see what a .223 could do to a child.". He responded precisely these words. "Oh no. There were no .223 wounds or cases that I could see, only .22 .". This fella and I go back 25+ years. We fished and hunted extensively here in and in Canada. Now, is possible that he only got to see one area of the carnage? I suppose so but he would have modified his answer to include .223 had they been present."
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01-22-2013, 11:11
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Originally Posted by harlenm
I'm stealing this from another site.
"Now, to be clear, this fella was an undertaker. He was called in from our town and escorted to the school to assit with the bodies. When I found that out, my first comment to his was , "my God, it must have been terrible to see what a .223 could do to a child.". He responded precisely these words. "Oh no. There were no .223 wounds or cases that I could see, only .22 .". This fella and I go back 25+ years. We fished and hunted extensively here in and in Canada. Now, is possible that he only got to see one area of the carnage? I suppose so but he would have modified his answer to include .223 had they been present."
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So much fail for 1 post there would be no casings anywhere by the time he got there.... If indeed he was even called this fictitious person he has no name we all know him as some guy , yet none of us know him personally.
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How do you establish intent?
Well when a naked man is chasing a woman down an alley with a butcher knife and a hard on, I figure he's not collecting for the red cross...Inspector H. Callahan
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01-22-2013, 11:15
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Originally Posted by harlenm
I'm stealing this from another site.
"Now, to be clear, this fella was an undertaker. He was called in from our town and escorted to the school to assit with the bodies. When I found that out, my first comment to his was , "my God, it must have been terrible to see what a .223 could do to a child.". He responded precisely these words. "Oh no. There were no .223 wounds or cases that I could see, only .22 .". This fella and I go back 25+ years. We fished and hunted extensively here in and in Canada. Now, is possible that he only got to see one area of the carnage? I suppose so but he would have modified his answer to include .223 had they been present."
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What site? Which post?
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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01-22-2013, 11:16
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Originally Posted by RussP
What site? Which post?
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When these guys are ready to sign their name on a report like the officers who will be filing them then I'll give it some credence.
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How do you establish intent?
Well when a naked man is chasing a woman down an alley with a butcher knife and a hard on, I figure he's not collecting for the red cross...Inspector H. Callahan
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01-22-2013, 11:19
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Originally Posted by Mayhem like Me
So much fail for 1 post there would be no casings anywhere by the time he got there.... If indeed he was even called this fictitious person he has no name we all know him as some guy , yet none of us know him personally.
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As an undertaker, he's performed how many forensic examinations on GSW victims?
That's to start.
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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01-22-2013, 11:34
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I've read all of the posts in this thread, and not one post was regarding the children, and how many times they were shot.
Yes, the police 'release' said 'high capacity blah, blah, blah.'
Vice President Joe (aka/ "Plugs") Biden has said numerous times, "Those children were each riddled with bullets."
With emphasis on RIDDLED. Every time, emphasis on that word.
In my not-so-humble opinion, Joe Biden is "Grandstanding" (Duh! Who didn't know that!?!?!?!?!?) and playing (and preying) upon emotions, not fact(s).
• I want to know EXACTLY how many times each child was struck. (I'm a big boy, now. I can handle that information.)
• How many rounds did this lunatic actually fire? (Surely, someone 'policed' the brass and took inventory of evidence!)
• How many MAGAZINES did this lunatic carry AND use? (See my comment, above about inventory of evidence.)
• How were these firearms stored/secured in the home? (Simple question. I would like an answer.)
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01-22-2013, 11:48
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#200
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I believe the ME said in a news conference that each child suffered multiple gunshot wounds ranging from 3 to 11.
The CSP spokesperson said all casings were collected and each would be processed. I do not remember a number being mentioned.
I do not believe an official spokesperson has mentioned facts regarding your other two questions.
The last words I heard about when were sometime in March, mid or late.
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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