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Old 01-15-2013, 06:22   #51
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Not like NY was a free state. They voted. Screw em.
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Old 01-15-2013, 06:22   #52
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I read somewhere that the Remington Arms Company may relocate because of the law.
Got a nice spot picked out for them in Oconee County, SC. One for each.

This sucks for NY and for the precedent it will set for the rest of the US. From the Foxnews.com article it appears upstate NY is pretty conservative but I fear NY is like Illinois in that one city runs the entire state.
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Old 01-15-2013, 06:27   #53
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I Doubt you'll see "NY magazines", way too few NY pistol permit holders to justify that, I suspect it's also a number that will be shrinking significantly. Small single stack semis, 1911s and revolvers are the only choice and some pump shotguns. Pretty sad, I'm truly embarrassed to have been born and raised there.
There might be a specifc mag that will require an upcharge.

However, how many people are going to buy a pistol like a Glock with only a 7-round mag? Something like a Kahr or a good, reliable 1911 would be a better choice simply because you don't have to deal with the fat grip.
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Old 01-15-2013, 06:28   #54
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I wonder if Remington and Kimber et al will move shop to a more gun friendly state.
Why would Kimber move? They'll just supply the 7 round mag JMB originally intended instead of 8 rounders.
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Old 01-15-2013, 06:36   #55
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They want all mags to be restricted to 7 rounds and ban all AW. It will never pass, this is just a bunch of crazies running in circles waiting for congress to slap them all in the face with a dose of reality

It'll never pass?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...ew-york-state/
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Old 01-15-2013, 06:59   #56
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But it still won't help with shootings. I guess they are all seeking the "Golden Panacea".
The legislation also increases sentences for gun crimes including the shooting of a first responder that Cuomo called the "Webster provision."

If he wanted to prevent tragedy from striking again, why didn't he make a "Webster provision" that if you're completely crazy and found guilty of "hammer slaying" another human being, you get the chair in one year or less.

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It will never pass, this is just a bunch of crazies running in circles waiting for congress to slap them all in the face with a dose of reality
As pointed out by many above, it WILL definitely become law.

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I have it on good word that no police officer would participate in a confiscation scheme.
LOL... who's good word is that?

NY LEOs are a class above the common man and really get off on the whole "sheep dog" nonsense. They have rights the common man does not posses. There is also a special level of government employee worship going on up there.

When Schumer gives the word, doors are going to be coming off the hinges all over the state and masked gunmen are going to rule the night. It's what we payed for with all those Homeland Security funds...

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From the Foxnews.com article it appears upstate NY is pretty conservative but I fear NY is like Illinois in that one city runs the entire state.
Conservative does not equal Republican does not equal Pro Gun.

There are no pro gun people living in NY, because NY does not allow it's citizens to drink freedom deeply and enjoy the full power of the United States Constitution. I have a whole bunch of folks in my family that are "Pro Gun" that are all over the map as far as Fudd ideology, ARs are OK but no NFA, in home inspection of storage, etc.

The bill just passed a 57% Republican State Senate.
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:01   #57
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Remington & Kimber should of moved out yesterday.
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:06   #58
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FOX just said background checks on ammo in NY now?
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FOX just said background checks on ammo in NY now?
Yes. Through an FFL.

* ban on pre 1994 mags with cap of 11 or more
* ban on mags over 7 rounds
* background checks on all ammo purchases
* mental health reporting which is to be checked against the (new??) gun registry database
* 1 feature test for AW. Bushmaster AR banned by name
* 10 round mags to be grandfathered in but may only be loaded with 7 rounds (read elsewhere this will be a misdemeanor)
* all sales of ammo from registered ammo dealers to be reported to local police
* background check on all ammo purcahses
* ban of direct internet ammo purchases
* ammo purchases to go through FFL
* five year renewable registration for AW and handguns
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Guns and magazines that are classified as curio and relics are exempt. Got this from one of the links above.
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:12   #61
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Congratulations NY, you will have done absolutely nothing to stop criminals from doing what they want.
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:13   #62
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Yes. Through an FFL.

* ban on pre 1994 mags with cap of 11 or more
* ban on mags over 7 rounds
* background checks on all ammo purchases
* mental health reporting which is to be checked against the (new??) gun registry database
* 1 feature test for AW. Bushmaster AR banned by name
* 10 round mags to be grandfathered in but may only be loaded with 7 rounds (read elsewhere this will be a misdemeanor)
* all sales of ammo from registered ammo dealers to be reported to local police
* background check on all ammo purcahses
* ban of direct internet ammo purchases
* ammo purchases to go through FFL
* five year renewable registration for AW and handguns
WOW!
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:14   #63
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Guns and magazines that are classified as curio and relics are exempt. Got this from one of the links above.
M1 is not old enough for that!
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:19   #64
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or it's going to turn a lot of people into felons.. I think w/ the 6rd limit, their goal was to make the only practical choice, a revolver. So while not banning semi-auto's, there's not very many that hold 7rds or less, that aren't mouse guns. Maybe manufacturers will make "NY Magazines"

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I was thinking the same thing.
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WOW!
Here is the law if you're interested in reading it. I got sick of getting the details through everyone's commentary:

http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S2230-2013
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:22   #66
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7 rounds will make revolvers come back big time.

Think about this as well. Isn't NY the state that wants to mandate microstamping? They're cutting their own throats about that by making everyone go back to revolvers.
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:25   #67
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Then they lose their job and pension. Only a 3%er would do that. You are screwed.

I can lose my pension over a misdemeanor?
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:30   #68
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I would never comply with this BS if I lived in NY. My hi caps stay right were they are no matter who says what
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:33   #69
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Never liked NY. Lived there for a while. Was pretty country in upstate NY but you have that whole NYC thing going which is 2nd only to NOLA for places I have lived and will never go back to.
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No....refusing to do your job as a LEO.

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Old 01-15-2013, 07:36   #71
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And so it begins.

I am deeply saddened to receive this news, as its will usher in a new era of crime rule, just like Chicago.
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In '94, one of the unintended consequences of the 10 round limit was that gun manufacturers started building smaller and smaller CCW firearms. This was quite the difference because the '80s brought us the high capacity race with the "wondernines"

So now, in NY, people who follow the law will have to buy smaller and more concealable firearms. I wonder if the assembly actually thought about that for a minute before passing the jerking of the knee bill.
Yeah, I remember how small the guns got during the AWB.. but the thing is, that was a national level. Will there be enough of a market to continue/start making guns like that, just for NY?
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Yes. Through an FFL.

* ban on pre 1994 mags with cap of 11 or more
* ban on mags over 7 rounds
* background checks on all ammo purchases
* mental health reporting which is to be checked against the (new??) gun registry database
* 1 feature test for AW. Bushmaster AR banned by name
* 10 round mags to be grandfathered in but may only be loaded with 7 rounds (read elsewhere this will be a misdemeanor)
* all sales of ammo from registered ammo dealers to be reported to local police
* background check on all ammo purcahses
* ban of direct internet ammo purchases
* ammo purchases to go through FFL
* five year renewable registration for AW and handguns
If I'm Remington, I'm scheduling a press conference that states that I am leaving the state as soon as a suitable home is found if that thing passes.

If I'm Nikki Haley (SC Govenor, may have spelled her first name wrong), I'm calling Remington and offering a pretty sweet deal to get them down here.
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Bets on how long until 7 rounds is just too much? Next will be 5 rounds, and then 3 ...
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