The Panic of 2013 Ends Tuesday - Page 22

Slug71 · 02-07-2013, 13:52

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Originally Posted by glock2740

Well, looks like the OP got this all wrong. Almost a month has gone by since his first post and we're still not "clear".

With not even an end in site. :(

***Gallium*** · 02-07-2013, 13:59

OP was so far off, it wasn't even funny.

We will still be seeing shortages thru Labor Day, and with NY going to background checks on ammo in 2014, expect a surge of buying there before their law goes into effect.

DanaT · 02-07-2013, 14:12

I will let you in on a little secret. I read the OP and was distraught. I bought up all ammo and am intentionally keeping supply low and am now selling it and price gouging.

DanaT · 02-07-2013, 14:14

Someone may see how I think about most things now.

Imagine this could work like Southwest Airlines / Lufthansa. They bought a lot of fuel futures to hedge against increasing fuel prices.

I am thinking an enterprising company could buy a lot of ammo (and get contract to buy ammo) and then sell ammo futures. This way, someone could lock in a pre-agreed price for ammo for a certain quantity over a certain time frame.

I am thinking an ammo futures market could make me some money...

sappy13 · 02-07-2013, 14:33

Prices are already coming down around here, at least to close to the same as what you would pay at the lgs. The lgs did raise his price on Colts about 150 bucks though. On one of our local buy/sell/trade forums in ga there are a lot of posts where people are trying to get top dollar, but none of those postings get any hits of interest.

certifiedfunds · 02-07-2013, 14:37

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Originally Posted by DanaT

Someone may see how I think about most things now.

Imagine this could work like Southwest Airlines / Lufthansa. They bought a lot of fuel futures to hedge against increasing fuel prices.

I am thinking an enterprising company could buy a lot of ammo (and get contract to buy ammo) and then sell ammo futures. This way, someone could lock in a pre-agreed price for ammo for a certain quantity over a certain time frame.

I am thinking an ammo futures market could make me some money...

Storage will kill ya.

Jet fuel is perishable and storage is a problem. People who want ammo can just buy now and store it.

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engineer151515 · 02-07-2013, 14:41

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Originally Posted by Slug71

With not even an end in site. :(

It's the ash fallen nuclear winter of the ammo panic.

Nothing but black rain and empty ammo shelves in my parts of southern Alabama.

DanaT · 02-07-2013, 14:50

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Originally Posted by certifiedfunds

Storage will kill ya.

Jet fuel is perishable and storage is a problem. People who want ammo can just buy now and store it.

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But they dont plan ahead....

wait...that just blows my business model...

but I got another one in the wings....

Slug71 · 02-07-2013, 14:57

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Originally Posted by engineer151515

It's the ash fallen nuclear winter of the ammo panic.

Nothing but black rain and empty ammo shelves in my parts of southern Alabama.

My LGS has plenty of ammo. I just bought the last box of 9mm though.
No .22 or.223 either. Everything else theres plenty.

***Gallium*** · 02-07-2013, 15:12

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Originally Posted by DanaT

But they dont plan ahead....

wait...that just blows my business model...

but I got another one in the wings....

Nice pun.

svtpwnz · 02-07-2013, 15:29

I was in my LGS today and they had plenty of PMC Bronze in stock for $10.29 and PMC X tac 5.56 for 10.49 a box. They had limits of two boxes per customer tho. Things seem like they are starting to settle down a little now.

certifiedfunds · 02-07-2013, 15:58

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Originally Posted by DanaT

But they dont plan ahead....

wait...that just blows my business model...

but I got another one in the wings....

Why don't we get together with Gallium, buy up the entire civilian ammo supply under a paper corporation in Hong Kong, and then price gouge the hell out of anyone who wants some, let them pay the Hong Kong corporation and reinvest the tax free profits into US gun ranges where we will require the use of ammo purchased at the range?

I don't see how we lose

Torontogunguy · 02-07-2013, 16:21

This is far from being even close to over and done with. Bad things are in the pipeline. Even the Kennedy family weighed in on CNN last night. Sic.

DO NOT EMAIL YOUR LEGISLATORS! MAIL them by postal mail, fax or phone calls. Allocate a half hour each day and just DO IT. Emails are very easy to route to the trash. US Mail MUST get delivered and opened.

I do not have a US residence right now (about a year away) so I am taking the liberty of writing, faxing and calling EVERYONE. I even send an email to the Prez. The response was (incredibly) "Thanks for your email. The campaign is now over. Thank you for your support." Sic. So a letter and a phone call to the White House are in order.

Problem is that I think I have brought myself to the attention of our RCMP, who run the firearms works here in Canada and where my firearms transfers were taking a few days to process, I have now been waiting three weeks for my Glock transfers to be done. Yes, we have to register restricted firearms (i.e. handguns) here in Kanada.

Can't wait to be spending my semi-retirement in the South somewhere. Is Florida getting to hot in the summertime?

Anyway, WRITE and FAX and CALL and keep on doing it. Include the press in your list.

I have received a wonderful education by my fellow Glocksters on here over the past few weeks and am grateful for it. 2A and RKBA must not be diluted further. Not a morsel further. Time to enforce the laws that are presently on the books and start holding legislators and beurocrats accountable. When was the last time anyone saw the Federally mandated FIVE YEAR NO PAROLE penalty added to any criminal offense? Or given to a felon or whacko that is in simple possession of a firearm?

Time for a national reciprocity law... if I am good in one state I should be good in ANY state. Fact is, I don't even think I should require a CCW permit at all but that's a story for another day.

I posted a copy of one man's opinion on gun control on here a few days ago. It is a long read, but well worth it. Someone should send a copy to Piers at CNN. He is the height of ignorance and needs to be sent packing back to the UK from whence he came and where he is recognized as an ignoramus.

Down off my soapbox again. Thanks for letting me vent.

oldman11 · 02-07-2013, 16:30

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Originally Posted by janice6

No compromise is acceptable.

Compromise to liberals means we pro-2nd Amendment citizens will settle for less freedoms, each and every time anything comes up.

I'm with you, no compromise.

certifiedfunds · 02-07-2013, 16:32

I don't believe congress opens mail since the anthrax mess. Calls and email are only way.

Unless you happen to catch them at home

DanaT · 02-07-2013, 16:37

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Originally Posted by certifiedfunds

Why don't we get together with Gallium, buy up the entire civilian ammo supply under a paper corporation in Hong Kong, and then price gouge the hell out of anyone who wants some, let them pay the Hong Kong corporation and reinvest the tax free profits into US gun ranges where we will require the use of ammo purchased at the range?

I don't see how we lose

I like this idea.

But somehow we have to be able to screw Social Security recipients in the whole deal otherwise there is no fun involved with it.

Keep in mind we also must use cheap foreign labor and not employ any americans.

certifiedfunds · 02-07-2013, 16:56

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Originally Posted by DanaT

I like this idea.

But somehow we have to be able to screw Social Security recipients in the whole deal otherwise there is no fun involved with it.

Keep in mind we also must use cheap foreign labor and not employ any americans.

We can hire illegal Mexicans to hold the targets down range. That's easy.

We can hire old folks as range greeters and encourage patrons to ridicule them for the lifetime of poor financial choices that pushed them back into the workforce.

Or, instead of AARP discounts we can charge them 50% more.

Slug71 · 02-07-2013, 17:09

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Originally Posted by DanaT

I like this idea.

But somehow we have to be able to screw Social Security recipients in the whole deal otherwise there is no fun involved with it.

Keep in mind we also must use cheap foreign labor and not employ any americans.

Quote:

Originally Posted by certifiedfunds

We can hire illegal Mexicans to hold the targets down range. That's easy.

We can hire old folks as range greeters and encourage patrons to ridicule them for the lifetime of poor financial choices that pushed them back into the workforce.

Or, instead of AARP discounts we can charge them 50% more.

You guys are going to be making $$$.
Dibs on a phone. :D

Catshooter · 02-07-2013, 17:18

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Originally Posted by Slug71

My LGS has plenty of ammo. I just bought the last box of 9mm though.
No .22 or.223 either. Everything else theres plenty.

No .22, not 223 and no 9mm.

That's what you call plenty of ammo?

Cat

Torontogunguy · 02-07-2013, 20:01

No shortage of .223 in Kanada. Just ordered a case of Federal.

Slug71 · 02-07-2013, 20:14

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Originally Posted by Catshooter

No .22, not 223 and no 9mm.

That's what you call plenty of ammo?

Cat

Lol. They had plenty of everything else.

Ruggles · 02-07-2013, 20:20

Not the end but no doubt the beginning of the end. Prices on the 2nd hand market have leveled off and even started to drop somewhat. Backorders are being filled in small numbers. Overpriced guns are sitting in shops, not flying out of the doors like last month.

Production is at full steam, that product will arrive and eventually outpace demand. This is 2008/2009 again, more intense but the same thing. That ended and so will this.

Torontogunguy · 02-07-2013, 21:04

We can run through a thousand rounds between my son and I on a Saturday afternoon plinking and target shooting.

We shoot a variety of pistol calibers but are settling in on .45ACP and .22LR, the latter for economy as we take a lot of folks out for their first experience at the range. Once a year the range opens up to the Scouts and to the Air Cadets for familiarization shooting. You should see the smiles.

A thousand rounds of .45ACP is getting expensive these days.

Ruggles · 02-07-2013, 21:08

"This is far from being even close to over and done with. Bad things are in the pipeline. Even the Kennedy family weighed in on CNN last night. Sic."

The Kennedy family is irrelevant in today's America, well other than in the tabloids. The last thing I am worried about is any of those goobers voicing their support.

NRA_guy · 02-09-2013, 18:58

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Originally Posted by HerrGlock

No .

Correct answer regarding universal background checks.

Libs will take whatever they can get and NEVER give it back.

It's a ratchet effect. They are willing to take years if necessary to disarm all law abiding citizens.

By the way, I think the libs have opted to take what they can get at the national level and push really hard in states and cities where they have total control.

It's just another way they plan to eat the elephant one bite at the time.

I'd like to see NRA and GOA and conservatives push back with a demand to rescind the existing laws regarding full auto weapons and barrel length.