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Old 01-13-2013, 13:09   #61
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Big problem now is since this is the People's Republic of Boulder, it goes beyond a legal issue. Any normal resolution of the situation under PD policy and procedure in conjunction with DNR regulations is now obscured by the fog of Boulder politics and heavy duty political correctness.
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Old 01-13-2013, 14:04   #62
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This is about shooting an animal inside the city limits.
What do "City Limits" have do do with it?

It was "good shoot" or it wasn't. All kinds of wild critters get shot in City limits around here, no different than in the County in general.
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Old 01-13-2013, 14:36   #63
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So, I take it there is no hunting at all in city limits? Not even with archery.

Sent from my communicator.
That is my understanding, but not the issue on the table for this guy.
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Old 01-13-2013, 14:40   #64
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What do "City Limits" have do do with it?

It was "good shoot" or it wasn't. All kinds of wild critters get shot in City limits around here, no different than in the County in general.
The laws are on the books to keep people from just shooting a gun in the city.

Based on what you are saying I should be able to target shoot in my back yard as long as no one is hurt?
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Old 01-13-2013, 15:25   #65
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The laws are on the books to keep people from just shooting a gun in the city.

Based on what you are saying I should be able to target shoot in my back yard as long as no one is hurt?
We have people in the city limits of the nearby town who do just that.

Our PD and SO also have an outdoor range that is in city limits.

You need to get outside the little box you are in.

You have too many pre-conceived notions.

Cougars, bears, injured deer and an occasional elk are shot in the city here quite often.
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Old 01-13-2013, 17:35   #66
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Obama said if he had an Elk, it would look like that.
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Old 01-14-2013, 04:27   #67
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Man writes ballad for elk & to question the judgment of cops

'Ballad of Big Boy': Boulder musician records song in honor of Mapleton elk
http://www.timescall.com/news/longmo...y-mapleton-elk
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Old 01-14-2013, 05:18   #68
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Let argue it out.

1. Lets assume the animal was in distress and needed to be put down. If an average citizen had seen this animal and shot it and didn't report it to anyone and his friend came and picked it up and drove away with it, what would he be charged with?
So the average citizen would call...the police...hey, problem solved.

Do you think the police need to call the fire department when they do it?
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:33   #69
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Did it get tested for CWD, BSE, and whatever else Boulder elk are carrying these days?
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It disgusts me to my very core that someone would compare the murder of a child to the killing of animal. I despise hippy liberal ****** nozzles like that.

But.... Judging by the news article (which is something I hesitate to) with no other real proof of anything.....

Seems to me the cop shot the elk because it was huge, and simply because he wanted to as a "trophy". It probably did have a limp, which he thought would justify his actions if he got caught. And if so, actions should be taken for any and all laws broken, and any department policies violated.

We're allowed to shoot SERIOUSLY injured animals to end their suffering, vicious animals that are presenting an immediate threat or very large animals that are causing a serious, immediate threat to public safety. I shot a cow once that kept darting into traffic on the highway which had already caused a wreck, for example. We also have the go ahead to shoot coyotes when we come across them, as long as we can make a safe, clear.shot. Well, a handful of us have that allowance.

I think the officer did a stupid thing....... not as stupid as a vigil for a f#$@#*% elk, though.
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Old 01-14-2013, 16:08   #71
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So the average citizen would call...the police...hey, problem solved.

Do you think the police need to call the fire department when they do it?
Don't side step the question. Answer it.

What would the average citizen be charged with?
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Old 01-14-2013, 16:10   #72
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I think the officer did a stupid thing....... not as stupid as a vigil for a f#$@#*% elk, though.
Hopefully these people are just making a stink so this doesn't get swept under the carpet, but my guess is they are morons also.
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Old 01-18-2013, 15:44   #73
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What should have been clear to anyone who read the initial accounts, these officers (one of whom is a taxidermist) conspired to poach a six point bull under the guise of official duty. A trophy bull taken illegally invokes the Samson Law which includes a $10,000 fine.



Boulder DA charges officers in elk shooting

BOULDER, Colo. – Two police officers involved in the shooting of an elk in a Boulder neighborhood on New Year’s Day will face numerous charges including unlawful taking of an elk, misconduct and conspiracy.

Warrants were issued for the arrest of officers Bren Curnow and Sam Carter. Both turned themselves in Friday morning and are out on a $20,000 bond, police said.

If convicted, they could face prison time and loss of their official police certification.
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Old 01-18-2013, 17:08   #74
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What should have been clear to anyone who read the initial accounts, these officers (one of whom is a taxidermist) conspired to poach a six point bull under the guise of official duty. A trophy bull taken illegally invokes the Samson Law which includes a $10,000 fine.
Things are usually NOT clear from initial accounts in the media that essentially consist of a bunch of liberal morons from a liberal area with no police training or experience dropping significant judgment on police activities.

There's a reason we conduct our own investigations, as was done here, and don't send the media to do it for us.
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Old 01-18-2013, 18:16   #75
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What should have been clear to anyone who read the initial accounts, these officers (one of whom is a taxidermist) conspired to poach a six point bull under the guise of official duty. A trophy bull taken illegally invokes the Samson Law which includes a $10,000 fine.



Boulder DA charges officers in elk shooting

BOULDER, Colo. – Two police officers involved in the shooting of an elk in a Boulder neighborhood on New Year’s Day will face numerous charges including unlawful taking of an elk, misconduct and conspiracy.

Warrants were issued for the arrest of officers Bren Curnow and Sam Carter. Both turned themselves in Friday morning and are out on a $20,000 bond, police said.

If convicted, they could face prison time and loss of their official police certification.
Well then, what should be immediately clear to anyone who reads or listens to the media is: guns are bad and only cops should have them.


Oh, wait....that's not what you meant, is it?
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Old 02-07-2013, 01:26   #76
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More cops caught on tape, shooting at wildlife

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Old 02-07-2013, 10:50   #77
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There is not enough context to know what is going on and why they are there.

Can you give some more background?

Is this in the country, or just the angle of the shots looks like it is in the country?

Is this in season?

What happened to the deer that they shot?

Why did they pick the one that they shot?

Why shoot it with a handgun?

Were they called to the scene or just happened upon it?
If they happened upon it, did they call it in?


OR to put it another way, you have not convinced me with this video clip that anything illegal is going on. I would like to see the police use a carbine if possible so they could have made a more precise shot, but then again, I don't know the situation.

I have seen deer get locked together before. It is not very pretty when one breaks the others neck. DNR shot the one that was still alive because it was more humane than letting him starve and they didn't have the ability to shoot the antlers and breakup the lockup.
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Old 02-07-2013, 13:40   #78
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"I don't see a whole lot of difference between the shooting of this defenseless elk and the shooting of school children in Connecticut," one vigil attendee said. A candlelight vigil on mourned an elk that was shot and killed by a police officer.
About 75 people attended the ceremony and they sang songs including "Amazing Grace" and "We Shall Overcome" in honor of the elk.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...olice-officer/

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/boul...dlelight-vigil

To people who don't have kids that thought is true. I see no reason for the Elk to be shot but that is just my opinion.
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And thats what is wrong with America, we let idiots roam free and even breed.
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why couldn't they just shoot the gun out of it's hand? I saw that on TV once
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