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Old 01-09-2013, 13:36   #21
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I've had two new Taurus revolvers fail and had to be repaired. The horrible customer service is why I'll never have another.
I broke a .44 magnum Tracker that I bought a few months ago. Complete negligence on my part. Sent the gun back, and it was returned fixed, no charge, no questions asked, three weeks later. My only experience ever sending a gun back for repairs. I hope any possible future experiences go as well.

Along with that, I have 2 blue titanium .44 magnum snubs and a .500, all bought just in the last couple months. Might buy another titanium .44 magnum snub in stainless on GB tomorrow.

Have had a titanium 850 .38 snub for almost 11 years that is my go-to carry gun. Sometimes my G26 or the .44 Tracker gets slipped on as well, but that 850 is always in my pants or jacket pocket.

My first .45 was a PT945, which was terribly unreliable, and I didn't keep it very long. I'd give one of the 92's a try for the right price though.
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Old 01-09-2013, 15:03   #22
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I have a Mod. 94 .22lr with 4" barrell. It's a fun enough gun, but the fit/finish are nowhere near in the class with my S&Ws, but it was about 1/2 the price, so I'm OK with it. The only real downside to it is that the trigger is horrible, even after a couple thousand rounds.

I did own a 24/7 in 9mm for a while. Again, it ran well, no jams in a few hundred rounds, accurate enough. Fit was not the greatest, but good enough for what it was, and the price was only around $300 at the time for a 17 (or was it 18?) shot 9mm with 2 mags. But again, the trigger was awful. Nothing but slack till the break and then it took what felt like 20#s of pull to get it to break. Sold it and never looked back.

I'd buy another revolver if I wanted a good budget piece that I didn't have to fret over if it got scratched up. I might would buy a PT92 also. The other pistols just aren't for me.
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Old 01-09-2013, 16:04   #23
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I had a (made by Taurus) Rossi 642 357. As others have said the trigger was not the best, but it was still a nice revolver. I bought mine "used" from a guy who never shot it, for $275.

The guys daughter had the same one, but blued. She often said the finish was "very rough" and regretted not getting the stainless.
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Old 01-09-2013, 16:57   #24
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The Taurus Millenium series had issues with frame cracking.

All of their guns over time have suffered from serious QC issues, it's hit and miss. Some work great, others don't work at all.

I've shot a couple dozen Tauri in various models and calibers and while they can work, they're really intended for the buy it, shoot a box, stick it in the drawer types.

I've owned 'one' Taurus, the 62 carbine in .22 LR because even they couldn't screw up Browning's design that much. It shot well and performed adequately.

That said, if you can afford the extra couple bucks, buy the original (S&W or Beretta).

Brazilians can make good guns. Doesn't mean Taurus always can.

Rossi, bought by Taurus, has some similar issues though their lever actions other than occasionally being a bit rough seem to do well in cowboy shooting matches.
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Old 01-09-2013, 18:45   #25
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I owned an 85CH and an earlier PT111. The 85CH worked fine, with a decent trigger. My PT111 always went bang, but I think I might be the only person with that luck. I think Dirty Harry was talking about buying a Taurus when he said, "Do you feel lucky?"
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Old 01-09-2013, 19:36   #26
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I've got a PT1911. It may not be the prettiest 1911 out there, but it will shoot with guns costing three times as much. I've got probably 10,000 trouble free rounds through it.
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Old 01-09-2013, 19:39   #27
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Every Taurus revolver I've handled NIB has either bad timing with lead shavings on the cone from factory test fire or the cylinder notches go from okay tight to loose as a goose by the 5th or 6th one.

The location of the lock in their hammers are garbage and have actuated and cause problems for some people. Not as easily removed as a S&W lock and I'm not sure if anyone makes a plug for them.

Now I've owned a PT1911 which was garbage. Fed 50% of ball ammo and 0% HP ammo no matter what brand of mags or ammo I used, how tweaked the extractor was or polished the feedramp was. The finish came off like it was applied by a Sharpie marker. The right side thumb safety fell off. The checkering on the front strap and MSH dented with the slightest rub on a hard surface like wood or plastic. The only upside was that they were $400 1911s at the time....for what they charge now, I wouldn't try another one unless it was just the frame and slide for say $200 or less.

I had an 85 Ultralite that was okay, although I bought it when I didn't know much about Taurus. It shot okay but the cylinder was loose as a goose as was the cylinder release button.

I had a PT22 which was surprisingly okay, although I didn't put many rounds through it before dumping it for a P3AT.

My Dad has bought some Taurus/Rossi revolvers recently disregarding my opinions and they're all NIB and all loose while the Rossi had lead shavings on the cone. Thing is my Dad is kinda cheap when it comes to guns and won't spend more than $400 for any firearm period. I found him a pristine S&W 686 no lock long ago....what does he do...sells it, buys some Taurus garbage and pockets the difference in money.

Well in any case and IMO only, Taurus is good for those not wanting to spend more on a S&W or Ruger or for those not looking to put more than a few cylinder fulls through a year. As far as their poly guns and other semi-autos, I have no opinion or experience with them although I would never consider them just like all Taurus products never gets a single consideration from me now.

So there you go, now flame away.
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Old 01-09-2013, 19:58   #28
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Here's my version......I've had great luck with taurus revolvers. They may not be S&W but then again they don't cost S&W money. The autos tend to be hit or miss. I've had them not function at all or function but with terrible triggers. Bottom line is they can be a decent affordable option. This thread may get entertaining.
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Old 01-09-2013, 20:07   #29
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I have a early 90's .44 mag revolver and it a darn nice gun.
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:57   #30
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In June prior to going on vacation to bear country I got a new .44mag Tracker, SS K frame, ported 4" bbl, ribber grips. It was ~$500 and the other brands didn't have anything close at even double the price. I have put 4-500 rounds through it and so far so good.

The trigger is excellent, no creep, crisp clean break, smooth pull in DA. Sights are adjustable with a nice orange insert in the front ramp-easy to get on target fast. Ribber grips look funky but really soak up the heat which is necessary on a light K frame size .44 mag. The cylinder is a bit short so the really massive long .44 mags won't work, however the 300 grn cast core loads I favor for bruin work just fine. Which honestly in this gun is the max I can shoot rapidly with hope of putting the rounds on target quickly- and that is a challenge. The ported barrel and heavy bear rounds make a massive boom and fireball that turns heads on the range. Even if I don't hit smokey he is going to be deaf, blind and lighter from bowel evacuation from the blast.

Pop had the 7 shot .357, it also had no issues other than being heavy for CC. He ended up trading it in on a .38 that has also been a good weapon. Buddy had a 9mm pistol late 90's that we dubbed the jam-o-matic.

-Personally, I won't buy ANY firearm unless I can look it over first regardless of brand. It took me 3 mossy 930's to find one w/o the canted front sight for example.
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Old 01-10-2013, 19:46   #31
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Sounds like some pretty nice revolvers from Taurus!
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Old 01-10-2013, 21:02   #32
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I have four Taurus revolvers:

1. M689 - 6-shots .357 Magnum and it has a ventilated rib barrel ala Colt Python but with the frame size equivalence of a SW K-frame.

2. M607 - 7-shooter .357 Magnum on the large .44 Mag frame (probably equivalent to N-frame but I think it's beefier). The next year Taurus came out with the 608 with eight rounds. Dammit!!!

3. M96 - a .22LR revolver that resembles the SW M17.

4. Raging Bull .454 Casull.

The first three are 1980s/1990s vintage. The fit & finishes were pretty close to SW. Close but not quite there, however the prices were significantly cheaper. The wooden grips were atrociously ugly though.

I've handled and shot a few of the more current wheelguns and I'm nonplussed. Some have really decent fit & finish with NICE trigger pulls (Taurus Judge), some have OK finish and decent trigger pull (my Raging Bull), and some were just down right ghastly (M94, Taurus Tracker, etc.).

My advice is to buy a Taurus wheelgun only if you can examine it up close and see what you're getting.

I don't have any experience with Taurus pistols other than looking at some of the Beretta clones back in the days.
Very well said. Some are good, some are bad, buyer beware. They rarely ever make the fit and finish of the more expensive guns but they dont cost as much either.
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Old 01-10-2013, 21:47   #33
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Well, hit or miss - a few years ago I worked for a FFL and Taurus was a big line for them and the guns were pretty good for the money. Then, about 10 years ago we started getting service problems with almost 15% of the guns sold. Taurus took them back but took weeks to months to get them serviced. We even met with a VP at the SHOT show but the service isssues continued and our sales dropped way off. I left about five years ago and just came back last month. Not many guns in the case, maybe 10 out of 125 - 150 at any one time. Heard the owner tell someone that "they had the best warranty in the business - and you will probably have to use it." Also they recommend that if you have a problem to contact Taurus directly. Been there a little oer a month and have seen 3 issues so far. Doesn't make me want to recommend one.
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Old 01-10-2013, 22:02   #34
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I've owned three Taurus revolvers and one auto over the years.
First Taurus was a Model 669, 6" blue 357 bought in '90 or so. Good shooter, beefy gun.
I've bought two Model 605's, SS 2" 357's. Also good shooters, but magnum rounds in a snubbie are LOUD, and snappy.
The last one I bought (04ish) has a pretty darn good trigger. Don't know what they are doing differently, but I have seen improvement over the last 20+ years.
That said, I have S&W Models 10, 64 and 638. Smith's overall are nicer, and the Airweight J-frames are much easier to opcket carry (smaller and lighter).
Side by side, you notice the difference (esp triggers), but the BG won't. Taurus makes a decent revolver, a good value. Though I'd probably buy a used Smith over a new Taurus, probably.

I had a PT145 for a short while, regret selling it (was financing my first AR). That is a pretty neat little pistol, think I'll get another one some day.
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Old 01-10-2013, 22:49   #35
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I've had 2 model 85s that were out of time really bad.One shot out of the 5 wouldn't shoot on both of them.A model 94- 22 wasn't bad though for the money.I don't own any taurus now nor do i plan to in the future.
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Until recently, I had never even held a Taurus handgun. I learned to shoot, courtesy of my Dad, 51 years ago. During those early years, the gun was a German made single action .22 revolver. A little later we shot Smith & Wesson and Colt revolvers in .38 Special. Over time, I've owned a variety of S&W and Colt revolvers in many calibers.

Since I've always had a "soft spot" for the .44 Special, I began shopping for a revolver in that caliber a couple of months ago. My local gun shop didn't have any Smiths, so I looked at a Taurus .44 Magnum Tracker.

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This revolver's action is tight, the single and double-action trigger pulls are outstanding, and the accuracy is excellent. Although I have quite a bit of .44 Magnum ammunition, it's doubtful this gun will ever fire those, as it is just too hard on my wrists and hands. But .44 Specials are a joy to shoot!

I don't anticipate buying any more Taurus handguns, but the one I do own is very, very nice.
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Old 01-11-2013, 11:53   #37
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I'm so unimpressed with Taurus that I find it hard to waste another moment writing any further about them. Except to say that I think they do some of the sloppiest loose-tolerance machining I've ever seen on gun parts. The last Taurus revolver I held in my hands simply would not lock up worth a crap when cocked. You could rotate the cylinder about .040" from either side of the proper lock-up position.

Somehow I think the chambers should be held in line with the barrel a lot better than that.
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I have a Taurus. 22 revolver. 4 inch. It's GTG. Trigger a little heavy like many rimfire revolvers but it's getting well worn in. I like it. For the money and for what it is I have no complaints.
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:49   #39
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My first handgun was a PT145, and my second was a PT92. The PT145 has about 4,000 problem free rounds down range, and the PT92 is over 10,000 now. I generally split my carry time about 50/50 between my G19 and my G21, but I still carry the PT145 when I need a small gun for deep concealment. It's actually smaller in every dimension and lighter than my G19 while still carrying 10+1 of 45.

My PT22 is a piece of junk that is usually more hassle than its worth when I do decide to take it out for a little plinking.
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I've had an 85CH for years that has worked pretty well. Not really much of a carry piece these days but I do still carry it in my camelbak at work loaded with snake shot to deal with rattlesnakes on occasion. My other Taurus is a 24/7 OSS-DS I found in Rapid city last fall. It's been 100% reliable and accuracy isn't too bad. Still not shooting that well for me as I'm still getting used to the trigger but a buddy of mine from work was on the USMC rifle/pistol team so I had him try it and found that it's not the gun, it's just me trying to get used to it is all. No complaints though.
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