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01-08-2013, 11:50
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#126
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Why is all this taking so long??? The guy is dead.
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The fallacy implied by this line of thought (as repeatedly expressed here by the conspiracy buffs) in essence expects the police to do a half assed investigation just because the shooter is dead.
But they will as they always do, be just as thorough as if they were going to have to go to trial. that's the way it is done.
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01-08-2013, 12:04
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#127
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Originally Posted by Dragoon44
The fallacy implied by this line of thought (as repeatedly expressed here by the conspiracy buffs) in essence expects the police to do a half assed investigation just because the shooter is dead.
But they will as they always do, be just as thorough as if they were going to have to go to trial. that's the way it is done.
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What is most amazing is that these "truthers" want "all the facts" and yet they say "it's taking so long it must be a conspiracy".
They must really throw a tantrum if Mommy is late with lunch and she didn't cut the crust off their sandwich.
You will notice that not one of them can claim any experience in criminal investigations, and when someone who does have the experience tries to explain it to them they are written off either being part of it or brainwashed. Those are the only two responses they have to facts that don't fit their fantasies.
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"Oh bother" said Pooh, as he punched the magazine release...
In some peoples minds "What if?" is just as real as What Is.
Think good thoughts about Ronny moving to the Netherlands ASAP
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01-09-2013, 09:46
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#128
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Originally Posted by Austin Millbarge
On a side note, the most horrible scene I have ever been to. Hands down.
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Originally Posted by ustate
The Parker family lived not far from where I live now. From the news reports here right after the shooting their family had just recently moved from Utah out to CT for his work. Looking at their family picture and the Obama pic with the kids the two girls are not the same, the dresses they're wearing look alike but all that means is their moms bought them at the same store.
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These two comments help, with the questions I took away, from the video. (even tho Austin has only 12 posts)
But it did look, to me, like the father was 'getting in character' and acting, for the interview/statement.
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If liberals don't want us to treat every Muslim like a terrorist, why do they treat every gun owner like the Newtown shooter?
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01-09-2013, 10:45
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#129
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Just found this site, I have been on The Firing Line since 2007.
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01-09-2013, 13:34
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#130
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USN Retired
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Originally Posted by Austin Millbarge
Just found this site, I have been on The Firing Line since 2007.
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No disrespect intended.
It was just that I have not read any of your thoughts or comments, previously, so there is no baseline, from which to judge. 
THANK YOU, for your service!
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If liberals don't want us to treat every Muslim like a terrorist, why do they treat every gun owner like the Newtown shooter?
Last edited by pizza_pablo; 01-09-2013 at 13:44..
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01-09-2013, 14:00
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#131
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Originally Posted by pizza_pablo
These two comments help, with the questions I took away, from the video. (even tho Austin has only 12 posts)
But it did look, to me, like the father was 'getting in character' and acting, for the interview/statement.
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So, what would be an explanation for him "getting into character" as you call it ?
He never had a child, and it was a scam ?
He had a child and didn't care?
He had a child and the child wasn't actually killed because it is all a scam?
or, how about,
he was experience a level of grief you are unfamiliar with and his reaction and coping mechanisms do not fit a script written by someone who hasn't been there?
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"Oh bother" said Pooh, as he punched the magazine release...
In some peoples minds "What if?" is just as real as What Is.
Think good thoughts about Ronny moving to the Netherlands ASAP
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01-09-2013, 14:33
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#132
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Originally Posted by Austin Millbarge
Just found this site, I have been on The Firing Line since 2007.
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What's your name over there. Don't remember seeing Austin Millbarge...
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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01-09-2013, 14:57
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#133
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Location: South FL
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Originally Posted by TBO
Nothing will satisfy the majority of people pushing these threads, period.
It'll just be more "proof" of conspiracy/coverup.
Been there/done that, many times before.
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Took the words right out of my mouth. People wanting answers to incosistencies now will call BS on the official report and find more inconsistencies to prove their theory.
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01-09-2013, 18:25
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Originally Posted by RussP
What's your name over there. Don't remember seeing Austin Millbarge...
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Sent you a PM.
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01-09-2013, 19:56
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Originally Posted by countrygun
So, what would be an explanation for him "getting into character" as you call it ?
Hr never had a child, and it was a scam ?
He had a child and didn't care?
He had a child and the child wasn't actually killed because it is all a scam?
or, how about,
he was experience a level of grief you are unfamiliar with and his reaction and coping mechanisms do not fit a script written by someone who hasn't been there?
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Please settle down, countrygun, I meant no offense to you.
I wrote, "it looked, to me". Am I not entitled to an opinion? I don't know who he is or if he had any children. It looked, to me, like some one acting a part. If you do not agree, I'm ok with that.
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Originally Posted by pizza_pablo
These two comments help, with the questions I took away, from the video. (even tho Austin has only 12 posts)
But it did look, to me, like the father was 'getting in character' and acting, for the interview/statement.
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If liberals don't want us to treat every Muslim like a terrorist, why do they treat every gun owner like the Newtown shooter?
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01-11-2013, 22:23
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#136
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Originally Posted by kenpoprofessor
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Good Job . I heard most of this footage live. Where is the guy they caught in camo pants sitting in front of the police car. Explain that one.
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01-11-2013, 22:26
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#137
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Originally Posted by countrygun
So, what would be an explanation for him "getting into character" as you call it ?
He never had a child, and it was a scam ?
He had a child and didn't care?
He had a child and the child wasn't actually killed because it is all a scam?
or, how about,
he was experience a level of grief you are unfamiliar with and his reaction and coping mechanisms do not fit a script written by someone who hasn't been there?
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I just want to know what happened to the guy they caught in the woods live cnn fox news footage in the woods. wearing camp pants.
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01-11-2013, 22:46
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Semper Paratus
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Originally Posted by sgtbones
I just want to know what happened to the guy they caught in the woods live cnn fox news footage in the woods. wearing camp pants.
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Try reading the thread explained numerous times..one of the members here knows him .
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01-12-2013, 01:41
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#139
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Originally Posted by countrygun
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 I have never seen a tin foil hat.
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01-12-2013, 16:07
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Originally Posted by TBO
Explain what ?
No official report has been released.
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Yeah, don't you have to have a concocted story completed before you have a conspiracy theory to debunk it?
The conspiracy theorists are putting the cart before the horse.
If in fact that WAS really a horse...
Randy
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01-12-2013, 16:26
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harborrat
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Originally Posted by JuneyBooney
 I have never seen a tin foil hat. 
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I actually saw one. Before anyone had ever heard of the term "tinfoil hat". Back in about 1990 while on the job (cop). We were going on a standby with the ambulance crew who had a "pink slip" for a subject who was to be forcibly removed from his home and transported to a mental health facility against his will by the order of his doctor.
When I got there there was this 40-something year old man, living with his elderly parents (who were afraid of him), sitting in the kitchen nook. He had aluminum foil over the windows and and had fashioned a headcover out of tinfoil that completely covered his cranial area. While trying to establish a rapport with him I inquired as to the foil. He explained very sincerely that it was to stop the signals that the CIA were inputing into his brain. He said that the neighbors and even his mother and father had already been taken over and were in on it. The diagnosis was paranoid schizophrenia.
As a side note, he was released after about thirty days and over the next few years was in and out of hospitals, but was usually heavily medicated. One day he committed suicide in quite a spectacular fashion, with several witnesses.
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01-13-2013, 06:03
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Originally Posted by skorper
I actually saw one. Before anyone had ever heard of the term "tinfoil hat". Back in about 1990 while on the job (cop). We were going on a standby with the ambulance crew who had a "pink slip" for a subject who was to be forcibly removed from his home and transported to a mental health facility against his will by the order of his doctor.
When I got there there was this 40-something year old man, living with his elderly parents (who were afraid of him), sitting in the kitchen nook. He had aluminum foil over the windows and and had fashioned a headcover out of tinfoil that completely covered his cranial area. While trying to establish a rapport with him I inquired as to the foil. He explained very sincerely that it was to stop the signals that the CIA were inputing into his brain. He said that the neighbors and even his mother and father had already been taken over and were in on it. The diagnosis was paranoid schizophrenia.
As a side note, he was released after about thirty days and over the next few years was in and out of hospitals, but was usually heavily medicated. One day he committed suicide in quite a spectacular fashion, with several witnesses.
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People are so naive. I can't believe anyone would actually think that the CIA's mind control devices can be thwarted by something as simple as grocery store tin foil.
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01-13-2013, 07:22
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#143
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Location: Central Virginia
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"Why is the investigation taking so long? They must be having problems with the cover-up stories."
"Why was the investigation over so quickly? What did they find that made them close the case so soon? They must be covering up something."
"How many people do they need to interview to know the guy was bat-**** crazy?"
"Why haven't they interviewed more people? Just how many people did know he was bat-**** crazy and did nothing about it? They're the irresponsible ones."
"Blah, blah, blah...? We have the right to know, and know NOW!!!!!!!!"
"Blah, blah, blah...? You found out everything too quickly. We have the right to know ALL the details."
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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01-13-2013, 08:33
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#144
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Location: Northern Virginia
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Originally Posted by Dragoon44
The fallacy implied by this line of thought (as repeatedly expressed here by the conspiracy buffs) in essence expects the police to do a half assed investigation just because the shooter is dead.
But they will as they always do, be just as thorough as if they were going to have to go to trial. that's the way it is done.
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That is true and they want to get analysis of bloods etc which takes time. Could some parts of the investigation be compromised? Yes. But I don't think there is any doubt that Lanza went nuts and shot the people. One look at his eyes where they were really large and wide eyed and that seems to be a characteristic of some sort of serious problem going on in the person's head.
On the other hand as we get older and time goes by we see more and more corruption in society and know that "nothing would surprise me" anymore seems to apply now more than ever.
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01-13-2013, 08:53
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What about the implication that the 115 lb Lanza, who had no electronic footprint, and for some reason, no doctor, was carrying over 100 lbs of gear? What about the letter the "dad" told Anderson pooper that her little girl "wanted legislation that would restrict firearms to Military and Police, and if people wanted to hunt, they could keep the guns locked up at the range."? What about the fact that there was a School shooting simulation that took place less than 30 mins away from Sandy Hook? The demonstration was done by a group called hseep-(sheep?) What about the Sandy Hook strike zone reference in the Dark knight rises, the same movie event where the obviously brain washed Holmes was used as a patsy to instegate further gun restrictions? If the mother was going to have him committed and was concerned for his and her safety, why would she leave loaded long guns laying around?
The criminal elements who perpetrate these attrocities are becoming even more brazen. They must think we are just plain stupid, or otherwise unblinking sheeple who worship big gov and beg for usurpation.
And what about that "medical examiner" and the "pyschologist" who brought the kids in his home without calling the police ? My God!
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01-13-2013, 09:06
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Hooah, Hooah.
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2 weeks before Sandy Hook, Eric Holder announces Project Longevity in Connecticut.
From the Gov. of CT.
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01-13-2013, 09:07
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#147
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Need this gun..
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Location: Louisville KY
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You morons make my head hurt.
You know, instead of introducing fluoride to the water to promote healthy teeth, I think we should start adding lithium. Way too many people off their meds, or simply undiagnosed at the moment.
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01-13-2013, 09:10
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#148
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Need this gun..
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Louisville KY
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Um - if the government were going to use a crazy dude to kill kids, would they just draw attention by sponsoring training and other events in the same area?
Wow..you guys figured it out.
And since everyone keeps citing FF - remember, it was a whistleblower from the BATFE that brought it to light. You seriously think no one would step forward to announce a plan to murder schoolkids for gun control?
Idiots. Mouth breathing morons who do nothing but make gun owners look bad.
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01-13-2013, 09:14
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Got Pignose?
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Originally Posted by wprebeck
And since everyone keeps citing FF - remember, it was a whistleblower from the BATFE that brought it to light. You seriously think no one would step forward to announce a plan to murder schoolkids for gun control?
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The whistle blower only spoke when he found a fellow LEO had been killed with the weapons.
In your mind, the actions of selling guns to Mexican drug cartels are negated because ONE guy blew the whistle, after another had been killed.
Wipe your chin.
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01-13-2013, 09:17
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Hooah, Hooah.
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Originally Posted by wprebeck
You morons make my head hurt.
You know, instead of introducing fluoride to the water to promote healthy teeth, I think we should start adding lithium. Way too many people off their meds, or simply undiagnosed at the moment.
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Watch the above videos. Listen to what they say.
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