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Old 01-11-2013, 17:30   #1
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Yeager just got his CHL suspended.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50429293#.UPCt7HeAQ7U

Sorry if this has been posted before. This doesn't look good going into his MSNBC interview tonight.

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Old 01-11-2013, 17:35   #2
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Serves him right. You say dumb crap and this is what happens...
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Old 01-11-2013, 17:38   #3
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One who places himself in a high profile needs to think before speaking.
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Old 01-11-2013, 17:38   #4
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Old 01-11-2013, 17:40   #5
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Serves him right. You say dumb crap and this is what happens...
Yeah! Damn that free speech mumbo jumbo in the COTUS. He may be an idiot, but he shouldn't lose his constitutional rights just for being an idiot that hasn't committed a crime.

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Old 01-11-2013, 17:41   #6
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Yeah! Damn that free speech mumbo jumbo in the COTUS. He may be an idiot, but he shouldn't lose his constitutional rights just for being one.
What constitutional right has he lost?
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Old 01-11-2013, 17:43   #7
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What constitutional right has he lost?
2nd Amendment for one. Look it up.
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He's not losing his constitutional rights. He's packaging them neatly in bubble wrap, placing them in a sturdy shipping box, taping it up and shipping it all off to Buffalo................

With his big fat stupid mouth.

He deserves everything he gets. He's right up there with kwikrnu in the defending the second amendment arena.
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What constitutional right has he lost?
Well I guess we can say he lost the right to carry how he chooses due to the fact that Tennessee infringes upon the second amendment by requiring citizens to obtain a license to carry a firearm concealed.


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That is a retarded article. DHS doesn't issue CCL permits.

No, he shouldn't have said what he said like he did. But, I wonder how much trouble he would have gotten into, if, instead he just read the following:

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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.–Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
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He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
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Old 01-11-2013, 17:46   #11
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Old 01-11-2013, 17:48   #12
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That is a retarded article. DHS doesn't issue CCL permits.

No, he shouldn't have said what he said like he did. But, I wonder how much trouble he would have gotten into, if, instead he just read the following:

Yup. That quoted statement looks like trouble for the recipients.
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Old 01-11-2013, 17:48   #13
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So, it's ok for liberals to threaten violence against individuals by name and/or group, but a gun owner makes threats against a hypothetical situation and the news is all over it.
Typical!
Where was the press during the election where people made threats against Romney?
Where was the press when one Des Moines register writer made threats?
Oh ya, that was just satire.
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That is a retarded article. DHS doesn't issue CCL permits.

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Old 01-11-2013, 17:50   #15
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No worse than the high ranking democrat who said it is time to start killing NRA members.
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Wow. That his mouth got him in trouble is suprisi..... oh wait, it's not. Never mind.
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He's not losing his constitutional rights. He's packaging them neatly in bubble wrap, placing them in a sturdy shipping box, taping it up and shipping it all off to Buffalo................

With his big fat stupid mouth.

He deserves everything he gets. He's right up there with kwikrnu in the defending the second amendment arena.
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Old 01-11-2013, 17:55   #18
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Not the Federal DHS, the Tennessee DHS. In Tennessee they are the issuing authority.
Wrong
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violation of his 1st amendment and 2nd amendment rights.
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Not the Federal DHS, the Tennessee DHS. In Tennessee they are the issuing authority.
They should have been a bit specific. The article made it confusing. Poor journalist writing at its finest.
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The Bill of Rights does not protect you when you publicly suborn violent acts. He is licensed by the state to carry a deadly weapon. When he commits such public displays of arrogance and gross poor judgment the issuing agency is well within its purview to yank that permit and assess his mental stability.

For those who want to yell that it's not fair, guess what? No one cares. We as firearms owners are responsible for our words and actions. We can say what we want, but we have to be willing to bear the consequences of those words.
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2nd Amendment for one. Look it up.
Nice quip, but he hasn't lost his right to won firearms, he's lost his privilege to carry them in allowed places in the state of TN, which does not have 'constitutional carry'.

You may not like it, but in TN the HCP is essentially a 'defense' to breaking the law - going armed is illegal. TN doesn't recognize 2A the way you apparently do. In fact, only seven do.
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Interesting. I wonder what happened to the anti-gun activist who directly threatened to kill NRA President David Keene after Sandy Hook?

I only saw the Yeager vid once, but I don't remember him making any direct threat.
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violation of his 1st amendment and 2nd amendment rights.
How have the courts ruled in the past concerning threats of violence as protected speech?
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Interesting. I wonder what happened to the anti-gun activist who directly threatened to kill NRA President David Keene after Sandy Hook?

I only saw the Yeager vid once, but I don't remember him making any direct threat.
I was wondering the same.
What about all the people that made threats toward Romney?
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