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Old 12-26-2012, 16:07   #1
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18.5" 20-gauge options

My sister is looking for a 20 gauge pump with an 18.5" barrel for HD. I've seen rifled 870s and an Express with a 2 shot extension (model 81100) but it's pricey. Rather not pay for something not needed. Ideally something like model 25549 in 20 gauge.

Also I've seen the Mossy 510 Mini online. It has a choked barrel though and looks like a youth model.

Any other recommendations? Thanks all!
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Old 12-26-2012, 19:12   #2
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IIRC the mossy mini comes with spacers to adjust the stock length.

Also the changeable choke tubes are a plus.

posted from my stupid smart phone, please excuse any spelling mistakes.
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Old 12-26-2012, 20:04   #3
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The Remington 870 youth model 20 gauge has a 20" barrel I believe and a 13 1/2 LOP stock. Very nice for someone of a smaller stature.
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Old 12-26-2012, 21:06   #4
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I'm interested in an 18.5" tube also for my standard 870 wingmaster 20 ga... I think it would make an excellent and handly HD weapon..
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:03   #5
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Gander Mountain offers a remington 870 20 gauge that's exclusive to them. It has and 18" barrel and a 12" LOP and it called the 870 express youth Jr. I bought one for my grandson a few months ago. IMO it would make for an excellent HD weapon.

Remington also offers the 870 express youth in 20 gauge with a 21" barrel and 13" LOP.
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Old 12-28-2012, 13:35   #6
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The Remington 870 youth model 20 gauge has a 20" barrel I believe and a 13 1/2 LOP stock. Very nice for someone of a smaller stature.
I've got the same one, nice shotty. They do kick like a 12 guage since they're so light but very handy. It comes with a 21" barrel but the 18" or 18.5" (not sure) are available from Remington.
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Old 12-28-2012, 15:04   #7
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I've got the same one, nice shotty. They do kick like a 12 guage since they're so light but very handy. It comes with a 21" barrel but the 18" or 18.5" (not sure) are available from Remington.
None of them kick like my single shot 12 gauge slug gun, that's sure

In a gun of equal size the 20 is much more pleasant. Typically the same velocity, but just doesn't deliver as heavy of a load as the 12.
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Old 12-28-2012, 15:53   #8
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None of them kick like my single shot 12 gauge slug gun, that's sure

In a gun of equal size the 20 is much more pleasant. Typically the same velocity, but just doesn't deliver as heavy of a load as the 12.
The problem is that few 20 gauges are built on 12 gauge frames so they aren't of "equal sizes"

My wife, who is not recoil shy doesn't feel much difference on her shoulder between her 870 "youth" 20 and her 1200 defender 12. A lot of that, IMO, has to do with upper body strength. I get a "Handful of gun", as it were, and the 20 is noticeably easier for me.

I often wish I could get the Mossberg I favor in the 20 with the features I like, and have a few more ammo choices available. At "social shotgun" distances it would handle faster and no target could tell the difference, the same at slug range as well.
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Old 12-28-2012, 16:20   #9
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I've had a 20Ga. Mossberg Crusier for over 15 years for HD.I wish it held a few more rounds but it is one sweet SG for HD. I shoot #3 buckshot in it for HD. At real life inside the home distances a 20Ga. and #3 buck can be a very deadly combination. Recoil is a bit stout but IMO knowwhere near that of a 12 Ga. of the same size.

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Old 12-29-2012, 08:43   #10
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None of them kick like my single shot 12 gauge slug gun, that's sure

In a gun of equal size the 20 is much more pleasant. Typically the same velocity, but just doesn't deliver as heavy of a load as the 12.
Here's a quote I'll steal that was said about my 20 guage 21" 870: "This little pony kicks like a Clydesdale.". Enough said.
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Old 12-29-2012, 08:47   #11
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I've had a 20Ga. Mossberg Crusier for over 15 years for HD.I wish it held a few more rounds but it is one sweet SG for HD. I shoot #3 buckshot in it for HD. At real life inside the home distances a 20Ga. and #3 buck can be a very deadly combination. Recoil is a bit stout but IMO knowwhere near that of a 12 Ga. of the same size.
12 guages and 20 guages are not the same size. That is the sole beauty of the 20 guage. It's certainly not that it's less powerful.
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Old 12-30-2012, 15:53   #12
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Mossberg sells the SA20, and Weatherby sells the SA459... They are basically the same Turkish made semi auto combat 20ga.
Seems like a nice HD solution.
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Old 12-30-2012, 17:34   #13
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12 guages and 20 guages are not the same size. That is the sole beauty of the 20 guage. It's certainly not that it's less powerful.
Didn't think you'd take that so literally.
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12 guages and 20 guages are not the same size. That is the sole beauty of the 20 guage. It's certainly not that it's less powerful.
Your right the 12 ga. Mossberg Crusier / Persuader is a whole half pound heavier than the 20Ga. and I believe a little longer.
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Old 12-30-2012, 18:52   #15
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I would suggest the Winchester 18.5" SXP with Fiochi "00" Low Recoil shells. While it is in a 12ga. platform, it shoots surprisingly well for the less stout.
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Old 12-31-2012, 17:15   #16
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Thanks for the replies! Looks like a youth version may be the best option. The 18.5" Remington barrels are rifled though. Does that impact bird or buckshot at all?
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Thanks for the replies! Looks like a youth version may be the best option. The 18.5" Remington barrels are rifled though. Does that impact bird or buckshot at all?
They have 18.5" cylinder bore barrels also. Google it and get the manufacturer #. I just started looking and everywhere I saw was out for another 2 months but can be backordered. Sorry, don't have the # offhand, Good luck!
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Didn't think you'd take that so literally.
Just need to keep the ankle-biters at bay Bob! The heaviest Glock (10mm G20) is less than half that difference from the lightest we can legally attain in the U.S. (9mm G26). It makes a difference for sure and I would'nt want a bunch of strangers on the internet thinking I was a woman, handicapped, old or just plain ole' light in the loafers! )

In all sincerity, I tried to be helpful with first-hand knowledge without being a prick but it's hard to do on the interwebs sometimes.

I shoot mostly semi-auto 12 guages and with the recoil reduction of the operating system, extra capacity mag tubes and general enormous size, that 20 guage pump youth model kicks.
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Thanks for the replies! Looks like a youth version may be the best option. The 18.5" Remington barrels are rifled though. Does that impact bird or buckshot at all?
Don't fire bird or buckshot thru a rifled barrel. 21" will work just as well as a 18.5' barrel. You aren't going to be clearing rooms with it. A shotgun for home defense is best used while barricaded.
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Just need to keep the ankle-biters at bay Bob! The heaviest Glock (10mm G20) is less than half that difference from the lightest we can legally attain in the U.S. (9mm G26). It makes a difference for sure and I would'nt want a bunch of strangers on the internet thinking I was a woman, handicapped, old or just plain ole' light in the loafers! )

In all sincerity, I tried to be helpful with first-hand knowledge without being a prick but it's hard to do on the interwebs sometimes.

I shoot mostly semi-auto 12 guages and with the recoil reduction of the operating system, extra capacity mag tubes and general enormous size, that 20 guage pump youth model kicks.
Obviously you are ....."limpwristing" it.



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