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Old 01-08-2013, 20:30   #1
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9mm or 38 special

which preforms better of HD use? 9mm or 38 special.
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Old 01-08-2013, 20:34   #2
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which preforms better of HD use? 9mm or 38 special.
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Depends on the load. Overall, I give a slight edge to the 9mm.

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Old 01-08-2013, 20:35   #3
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There is great self defense ammo in either 38 special or 9mm luger. For instance, Hornaday makes Critical Defense in either 38 Special or 9MM . For that matter, a lot of different calibers.
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Old 01-08-2013, 21:18   #4
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Depends on where the bullet lands and what it hits. A hit with either cartridge is better than a miss with the other.

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Old 01-08-2013, 21:25   #5
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I'll take 9mm all day long.
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Old 01-08-2013, 21:27   #6
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I'll take 9mm all day long.

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Old 01-08-2013, 21:27   #7
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over 1,000 posts, member since 2001.....you cant be serious.
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Old 01-08-2013, 21:38   #8
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true I have been here awhile
I do not know that much about 38. I like 9mm. I am wanting to get a revolver but not sure if I want to spend the money for the 9mm cylinder.
I just like to get other ideas. Kinda thinking out side of the box.
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Old 01-08-2013, 21:39   #9
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My vote is for the 9mm over the 38 Special.

Here is some Speer Gold Dot ballistic info. Both loads are from a 4" test barrel.

.38 Special +P (125 gr)
Velocity(fps) at Muzzle: 945
Velocity(fps) at 50 Yards: 891
Energy(ft-lbs) at Muzzle: 248
Energy(ft-lbs) at Muzzle: 220

9mm +P (124 gr)
Velocity(fps) at Muzzle: 1220
Velocity(fps) at 50 Yards: 1071
Energy(ft-lbs) at Muzzle: 374
Energy(ft-lbs) at Muzzle: 293
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Old 01-08-2013, 21:48   #10
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If you are wanting a revolver, I would go with a 38/357 option. The .357 Magnum can be a pretty powerful defense load.

Speer Gold Dot for the .357 Magnum. 4" test barrel as well.

.357 Magnum (125 gr)
Velocity(fps) at Muzzle: 1450
Velocity(fps) at 50 Yards: 1261
Energy(ft-lbs) at Muzzle: 584
Energy(ft-lbs) at Muzzle: 441

.357 Magnum (158 gr)
Velocity(fps) at Muzzle: 1235
Velocity(fps) at 50 Yards: 1119
Energy(ft-lbs) at Muzzle: 535
Energy(ft-lbs) at Muzzle: 440

The .357 Magnum doubles the Energy of the .38 Special with the Speer Gold Dot.
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+1 What rednoved said. I have a Taurus (don't hate me! ) .38/.357 small, 5-shot SS revolver w/2" barrel that I like a whole lot! It is well made, light, SS and cost about $400.

I have .38 and the hot 38 loads available and I can go .357 magnum if I choose. All in a small, concealable snubby. What's not to like?
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9mm generally offers a little more muzzle energy compared to the .38 Spl, but the .38 can use bullet profiles the 9mm can't, since they don't have to feed from a magazine or follow a feed ramp into a chamber. Also, there's plenty of 158 gr .38 loads, and as far as I know, only a couple of 158 gr 9mm commercial loads.

Here's a +P load that gets to 1000 fps from a 642, with a 1 7/8" barrel, for around 350 ft/lbs. From a Ruger SP101 with a 3" barrel, he's getting over 100 fps, for a tad over 400 ft/lbs.

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.ph...t_detail&p=288

]from my small experience, BB does not inflate their velocity claims like some companies do.
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IT all depends on the load. COmparing 125gr loads is nieve. THe 38sp is at it's best w/ a heavier bullet. In a 4" rev vs 4" 9mm, there isn't a whole lot of diff in terminal perf if you can shoot both. A good 158gr+P LSWHP @ 950fps+ is no slouch.
Revolvers have a disadvantage, ammo cap. For HD, not sure it's all that & a bag of chips. The rev strength is simplicity & reliabilty. For a housewife that only occasionally shoots, easy to operate & no limp wristing or problems unloading & loading, no safety, pure simplicity. Even though I have just about everythign & can shoot just about everything, for years my HD was a 4" 357mag loaded w/ 158gr+PLSWCHP. The wife was a rev shooter, nothing for her to think about in the middle of the night but ID the target, point & shoot.
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:48   #14
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which preforms better of HD use? 9mm or 38 special.
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If those are the only choices, it's pretty easy - 9mm gives you more power, comes in higher capacity guns and they reload a lot faster. How is 5-6 rounds of .38 spl. going to ever be a better choice than 10-17 or more rounds of more powerful ammo that takes 1/4 the time to reload?
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Old 01-09-2013, 13:09   #15
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9mm is a tad faster, .38spl can come a bit heavier and performance wise seems to favor a heavier bullet. Their stats in real world performance for successful stops, average hits to stop, and one shot stops are roughly the same.

.357 magnum blows them both out of the water, so if you're going revolver, you might as well go for that.
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Old 01-09-2013, 13:57   #16
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9mm for sure. My WW+p+ 115gr ammo is doing over 1400 FPS out of my G17.
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Old 01-09-2013, 14:06   #17
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which preforms better of HD use? 9mm or 38 special.
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Either one should work for HD/SD but I prefer 9mm for the many effective JHP self-defense rounds and it's high capacity in semi-auto pistols.
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Old 01-09-2013, 14:29   #18
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9mm all the way.
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Old 01-09-2013, 15:38   #19
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9mm for sure. It is light years ahead of the .38 Special.
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