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Old 12-29-2012, 15:23   #1
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Umm what happened to my depriming die!!??

So I'm loading along.. Nothing exciting..

All of a sudden I can't seat a new primer and I notice the old primer isn't popped out...

So I look at he die:

It looks like the pin is set back but I can't figure out how to move it out!?

Reloading

Reloading

Reloading


Help ....
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Old 12-29-2012, 15:25   #2
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Use two wrenches - one to hold the die body and the other to loosen the locking collet (that nut on top of the die). Extend the depriming pin and lock it back up.

EDIT: And don't extend it any further than necessary. The internal collet (or just the end of the shaft) that holds the pin does not want to impact the base inside the case.

Before you do any of that, make sure the die body still touches the shell holder when you are resizing a case. It could be that your die, not the depriming pin, backed out.

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Old 12-29-2012, 15:56   #3
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Thank you for the info.. I realized what happened... But no matter how hard I crank down after resetting the length, after 5-10 deprimes it pops back up... I'm using 2 wrenches and lots! Of force.

Which is amazing since when I go to loosen it up to reset it I practically break my arms because of the force necessary just too unloosen and reset it?.
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Old 12-29-2012, 16:03   #4
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Do you have gravel in your brass? The only other thing that comes to mind is that you have the wrong size pin in your die. That de-priming system is arguably the best design the lees ever came up with.
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Old 12-29-2012, 16:15   #5
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Thank you for the info.. I realized what happened... But no matter how hard I crank down after resetting the length, after 5-10 deprimes it pops back up... I'm using 2 wrenches and lots! Of force.

Which is amazing since when I go to loosen it up to reset it I practically break my arms because of the force necessary just too unloosen and reset it?.
Are you depriming berdan-primed brass? I have run into some in mixed lots and it doesn't have a hole where the pin goes.
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Old 12-29-2012, 16:21   #6
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Are you depriming berdan-primed brass? I have run into some in mixed lots and it doesn't have a hole where the pin goes.
Beat me to it.

If you haven't swapped the pin then I'd suspect it's encountering something it wasn't designed to overcome, either crud in the case or Berdan priming.
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Old 12-29-2012, 16:32   #7
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Thank you for the info.. I realized what happened... But no matter how hard I crank down after resetting the length, after 5-10 deprimes it pops back up... I'm using 2 wrenches and lots! Of force.

Which is amazing since when I go to loosen it up to reset it I practically break my arms because of the force necessary just too unloosen and reset it?.
If yer trying to loosen and unloosen at the same time, you'll forever fight an unwinnable battle. Kinda reminds me of my Ma, taking meat outta the freezer so it can dethaw.........
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Old 12-29-2012, 17:18   #8
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I am relading mixed brass but I've done many hundreds before this and never a problem.. I'll have to check if its bearden priming... But I haven't swapped anything and this brass has been fully cleaned and tumbled
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Ok well I just crunched it down even harder and it seems to be holding now... I don't know what could have loosened it it the first place? It seems good to go now. Thanks all
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It probably didn't loosen in the first place. It probably hit something hard, berdan brass, a 22rf shell inside a case, a piece of gravel etc. By design, the pin will do one of two things, or both a little bit, it will either punch through the obstruction or back out like yours did.

It is very hard to tighten the collet enough to hold it once you loosen it to reset it, as you have found out. What I do, every 5 years or so when this happens to me, is to just take a hammer and pound the top of the stem back flush with the collet. It sounds crude, and it is, but it works and it's a heck of a lot easier than loosening, resetting, and retightening it.
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Old 12-29-2012, 20:22   #11
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It probably didn't loosen in the first place. It probably hit something hard, berdan brass, a 22rf shell inside a case, a piece of gravel etc. By design, the pin will do one of two things, or both a little bit, it will either punch through the obstruction or back out like yours did.

It is very hard to tighten the collet enough to hold it once you loosen it to reset it, as you have found out. What I do, every 5 years or so when this happens to me, is to just take a hammer and pound the top of the stem back flush with the collet. It sounds crude, and it is, but it works and it's a heck of a lot easier than loosening, resetting, and retightening it.
Good info here.. Thank you!
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