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12-30-2012, 18:47
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Seeing people pay 80 for a12 round mag when 10 rounders where only 20 bucks.
The ugly thumb hole stocks on mak-90's
I was only 12 when it went into effect. Hoping we don't see another one.
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12-30-2012, 22:14
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The thing I remember most about the 1994 AWB is it took the Democrats 4 years to get it passed (they started in 1989 after the Stockton School Yard Massacre) and they held both houses of Congress and the White House and once the passed it they lost the House of Representatives for the first time in 30 years.
That's what I remember about the 1994 AWB.
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12-30-2012, 22:19
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Who?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Bird
The thing I remember most about the 1994 AWB is it took the Democrats 4 years to get it passed (they started in 1989 after the Stockton School Yard Massacre) and they held both houses of Congress and the White House and once the passed it they lost the House of Representatives for the first time in 30 years.
That's what I remember about the 1994 AWB.
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There are plenty of Democrats that remember, too.
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12-30-2012, 22:25
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#54
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I'm anti-anti
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I was clueless..In late August/early September of 2004, I was at Fort Riley, KS, and went about 1,000ft off post to purchase my first gun, a G19. (I actually bought the G19, a Maverick 88, and a 10/22 all at the same time. Man that was a beautiful day for me.) I never batted an eye or questioned that the mag held 10 rounds only. I supposed that was normal, I guess.
A close buddy of mine, equally clueless, liked my G19, and bought the same thing from the same gun shop around Christmas time, and I remember us both scratching our heads that his came with 15 round mags. WTF, Over!
I've been shooting and collecting ever since..
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12-30-2012, 22:33
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Originally Posted by exmdshooter
Bought my first AR during the ban... a new 16" Bushmaster XM15-E2S/A2 carbine... fixed stock, no bayo lug or flash hider, but a perfectly good rifle. Came with a couple of lame 10 round mags, but used military 30 rounders weren't all that hard to find at shows; and weren't THAT expensive. Bought a handful of those, stripped them down and refinished the bodies, then replaced the followers and springs to create essentially new mags.
Still have the rifle and the mags... though the fixed stock got replaced with a collapsible one in 2004 when the ban expired.
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I had one of them too. My 1st AR type also. It served me well for nthe time. Soon as 2004 rolled around I traded it for a Bushy with collapsable stock, removable carry handle/rear sight, flash hider and bayonet lug.
Main thing I remember is that there wasn't nearly as many firearm manufactures as there is now. Wonder if that will make any difference this time around.
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12-31-2012, 01:51
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Chicks Dig It
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I remembered that I sold off my Beretta AR70 and FN FNC for some princely sums.
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12-31-2012, 05:52
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Originally Posted by lawman800
Yes, there are always reasons such as hunting or competition where you have round limits, and people's hand sizes and preferences and dietary preferences and religious beliefs and which side of the bed they woke up on all comes into play but my thing is, all things being equal to the buyer and he can shoot all the guns the same, what's the point of having a way bigger gun if you can't hold more rounds.
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Hunting or competition, or range use, or home defense, or basically anything other that CCW, I argue the full size is still the better option for most.
Consider how much more popular the 5" 1911 is over the Commander size 1911s, both having the same round count.
YMMV
Last edited by BuckyP; 12-31-2012 at 05:54..
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12-31-2012, 09:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by michael e
Seeing people pay 80 for a12 round mag when 10 rounders where only 20 bucks.
The ugly thumb hole stocks on mak-90's
I was only 12 when it went into effect. Hoping we don't see another one.
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I also remember the ugly thumbhole stock AK's as a teen. High prices for Glock magazines ($60-80) were another vivid memory.
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12-31-2012, 11:04
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All I remember was the endless search for mags and all the millions of threads on "which mag was best".
All the RAGE were:
Thermold
Orlite (mold #23 up)
USGI 20's
USGI 30's (as long as they were not coopers)
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12-31-2012, 15:40
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In Jail...
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30rnd mags NIW weren't that hard to find on AR15.com. I don't think I ever paid more than $30 (Center Industries) and I ended up with (10). I'm still using them today with new MagPul guts. Original Colt 20's though were quite expensive and elusive, at least for me. I lived easy enough without the flash hider or bayonet lug but I really missed the adjustable stock! Those evil features increase the killing efficiency exponentially! Just holding a preban gun back then could kill you...
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01-12-2013, 18:49
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I remember a visit from our local ATF special agent in-charge in my chief's office over me popping up on their grid after several multiple gun purchases. My best friend owned a shop at the time, and he'd let me take a couple of different guns every few months to play with, then after that id return em get a couple more. Well, that red-flagged me so they called my buddy. They started asking a buncha bull**** querstions about whether i was an extremist, was i in a militia...etc. Buddy says, "hell no, call him, he works for the xxx police department." Hearing i was a cop, Buddy said their attitude changed where i was now "ok". They still showed up at the PD calling it a "courtesy visit", as it appeared i mioght be dealing without a license...blah, blah. I was effn livid!!! I told em courtesy my ass, if it was courtesy you woulda came by my house and not brought it to my job...etc. the meeting ended very poorly when i told em to get back in their black helicopter and go find some real criminals rather than some broke-ass cop who happened to buy a glock and a sig in the same month. never heard another thing.
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01-14-2013, 16:18
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I remember paying $60 each for used Glock 22 mags. Glock 23 mags were over $100. Hope it doesn't come back to that, but have always kept it in the back of my head as a possibility.
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01-14-2013, 17:17
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I remember NOT buying guns because I couldn't find good mags for them.
I remember buying the mags that were available and having them NOT work.
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01-14-2013, 18:41
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I remember buying some crappy Mini-30 magazines (30 rounders) prior to buying the rifle because finding mags was harder than finding a gun that would accept them.
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01-15-2013, 08:55
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I remember that my duty gun and off duty gun were a Sig P220 .45 with a 7+1 capacity and Sig P239 9mm with a 8+1 capacity.
I remember shaking my head at some people buying $75 and $100 "hi-cap" mags.
My wife on the other hand had a Sig P228 as her EDC gun. She did have six 13 rd mags, and bought another five 10 rd mags for her training mags.
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01-15-2013, 09:00
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To get any extra mags (Glock) I had to send a Dept. letterhead request.
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01-15-2013, 09:51
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I was only 11 and had a pre-ban super soaker.
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01-15-2013, 14:06
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Let's see:
Paid $75 for a G17 standard mag with a +2 and thought I got a great deal.
Paid $85 + shipping for a standard G22 mag and was excited to get it.
Saw AR magazines go from $7 brand new to $30 overnight.
Watched $650 ARs go to $2100 in about 2 weeks and people were scrambling to buy them.
Saw $350 AK types go from $350 to around 1K.
IDPA matches that began "anyone with high caps down load to 10" to keep the matches even.
I did not buy several pistols because standard mags were unavailable or cost prohibitive.
And I remember the mid term elections that sent most of the people that voted for the "assault weapons ban" to the unemployment line.
RD
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01-15-2013, 17:24
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I had just graduated the Academy. Remember going to the Chief and getting a letter for magazines.
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01-15-2013, 20:14
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Juris Glocktor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by owl6roll
I had just graduated the Academy. Remember going to the Chief and getting a letter for magazines.
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I had just graduated as well but we were issued the weapon and 3 magazines so didn't need to buy any more but when I did buy some for my own weapons, I didn't need a letterhead, just my ID.
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01-15-2013, 20:47
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I just turned 8 so not too much.:p
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01-15-2013, 23:08
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This all makes me want to get that .50 BMG Barrett much sooner than planned.
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01-15-2013, 23:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Bird
The thing I remember most about the 1994 AWB is it took the Democrats 4 years to get it passed (they started in 1989 after the Stockton School Yard Massacre) and they held both houses of Congress and the White House and once the passed it they lost the House of Representatives for the first time in 30 years.
That's what I remember about the 1994 AWB.
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No. The 89-ban was an offshoot of the ongoing cocaine cowboy drug wars - despite the '86 MG ban - coupled with the Stockton, CA schoolyard "massacre" done by a direlect with a Norc AKM.
With the Brady shooting fresh in everyones head, Bush The Elder had his Drug-czar Bennet do a Biden impersonation and come up with a plan to end the violence.
This gave us 922 and effectively shut down/neutered the best of the imported "EBRs" - like HK PDW pistols with vertical grips, HK94s, Uzis, verticle foregrips on the 1927A5 Thompson "pistols".
Now our import EBRs had thumbholes and Sarah Brady dildoes on the ends of our threaded barrels, and no dreaded flashhider and bayo lugs. Hi-caps were unaffected.
Prices jumped - but not as retarded as now and mostly on the "pre-89" imports.
The 94 AWB came from Klinton, as apparently the 89-ban didn't go far enough to ban hi-caps. He got it thru by putting the auto-expire on it.
Gun prices were not horrible, but hi-caps were super expensive.
Importers and mfgs got creative with the 94-ban with AKs like the WUM, CUR, Romak, MAK90s, SA85s, brakes as opposed to flashhiders.
The Klinton CHICOM ban was a side issue to all of these prior bans and was primarily due to the still-Red Chinese slipping sanitized select-fire AKs into SoCal street gangs. That'd piszz me off too, so I can't fault Klinton on that one.
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01-16-2013, 00:35
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Juris Glocktor
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The 89 ban caused all the guns affected by it to go up in price overnight. I remember seeing the prices change because I went to the same gunstore both before the ban and the day after the ban. Same gun displayed in the same rack but double the price.
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01-16-2013, 04:39
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who was the president that forced the ban?
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