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Old 12-27-2012, 18:15   #1
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Dr Appointment

Ive seen a few posts about the insurance co asking if there were guns in the homes of their patients. Got a checkup scheduled mid Jan I guess I will see if theres any truth to it I hope it just the regular nonsense
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Old 12-27-2012, 18:24   #2
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I've never had this happen with medcal insurance.

Our pediatrician, however, always asks, "Are the guns in your house locked up?" Me - What guns?
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Old 12-27-2012, 18:25   #3
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I'd respond. "That is a fair question. But, before we discuss that, do you have any marijauna, other illicit narcotics, or child pornography at your residence; or do you have or ever had a socially transmitted disease? I don't feel I can trust you until you answer and sign this survey that I brought detailing these these items and more, before I can trust you with my physical well being or the possessions that you are asking if I own."

I suspect it would be a brief doctor's appointment; but, hey if they want to be nosey, I can't imagine you can't be equally nosey. Afterall, the patient doctor relationship should be about mutual, trust, right?
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Old 12-27-2012, 18:56   #4
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my VA dr (who is a friend of my wife's, who is now retired) always lectured me on the dangers of guns everytime i went to the VA clinic for appointments.

i didn't have the heart to tell her that every time wife and i were invited to their house for dinner, i was armed
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Old 12-27-2012, 19:02   #5
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My health insurance asks if there are guns in the house. And then goes on to asked if there are guns in the house are they unloaded and locked up.

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Old 12-27-2012, 19:08   #6
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My health insurance company gives you $100 credit if you complete their "lifestyle survey". I ordered one and discovered it asked about guns in the house, if they were loaded, lock up. I tore it up. They can keep their $100.
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Old 12-27-2012, 19:09   #7
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Don't waste your time. Don't break a sweat. The doctor is there to help you with your medical health. It is possibly appropriate to lecture a parent of a child to not let children have contact with firearms (assuming the parent is a moron--smart parents don't need a lecture).

I am a physician, but I firmly believe you should take the fifth Amendment when you are asked questions. Don't volunteer alcohol or tobacco indiscretions.

The physician works for you and is paid by the insurance company. You owning firearms has nothing to do with healthcare unless you are a moron parent talking to a pediatrician and are deserving of his lecture.

And don't be defensive. There is no reason to volunteer inappropriate information.

In other words if you are legal, safe and a good parent with appropriate firearms safety it is not a health/ social medical issue.

If you are an adult with no children or an adult with no children at risk, why are you asking a question?

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Old 12-27-2012, 19:21   #8
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I'd respond. "That is a fair question. But, before we discuss that, do you have any marijauna, other illicit narcotics, or child pornography at your residence; or do you have or ever had a socially transmitted disease? I don't feel I can trust you until you answer and sign this survey that I brought detailing these these items and more, before I can trust you with my physical well being or the possessions that you are asking if I own."
I am tiring of any sort of comparison of firearms to drugs and porn. Owning a firearm should not be a dirty little secret.

As for doctors asking you about them, tell them it's none of their business and if they persist, tell them you feel like they are "violating a boundary" and that'll be the end of it if they know what's good for them. They have no more right knowing if you have guns than they do knowing if you have 5 gallon buckets, a swimming pool, or unpasteurized honey.
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Old 12-27-2012, 19:24   #9
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I have filled out papers at several doctor's offices lately.
No gun questions. I wouldn't answer them anyhow.

My family doctor of many years is BIG into guns.
We usually spend five minutes talking about my problem and a half hour talking about guns.
He has a dozen M1 Garands.


Looks like obamacare is going to make him retire early.
Pisses me off. A thousand obamas aren't worth a single good doctor.
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Old 12-27-2012, 19:27   #10
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It seems like everyone is asking about Guns in the home, Their just wanting to label you and put you in a database. We had an emergency one morning with my son having a febrile seizure, and was unresponsive,(scared the Hell out of me!) had to call 911. After answereing questions about his situation and vital signs, I was asked if there were any firearms in the house...WTF? "No!, MY 2 YEAR OLD SON IS STIFF AND NOT BREATHING, CAN YOU GET SOMEONE HERE NOW!" Then I was given instructions on infant CPR. Pissed me off. When asked if i have guns, i say NO! My son is fine btw.

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Old 12-27-2012, 19:30   #11
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I am tiring of any sort of comparison of firearms to drugs and porn. Owning a firearm should not be a dirty little secret.

As for doctors asking you about them, tell them it's none of their business and if they persist, tell them you feel like they are "violating a boundary" and that'll be the end of it if they know what's good for them. They have no more right knowing if you have guns than they do knowing if you have 5 gallon buckets, a swimming pool, or unpasteurized honey.
My point, is if they are allowed to ask you inapropriate questions, you should have the same leeway.

The same way if someone asked me something stupid like, do you beat your wife?

I would respond, why do you ask, is that a hobby of yours?

Though, every year thanks to Lautenberg, I have to answer the same stupid question. "No, I don't beat my wife."

Stupid, inane, unreasonable questions get tiresome old, and demand sarcasim. That was my entire point.
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Old 12-27-2012, 21:07   #12
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Don't waste your time. Don't break a sweat. The doctor is there to help you with your medical health. It is possibly appropriate to lecture a parent of a child to not let children have contact with firearms (assuming the parent is a moron--smart parents don't need a lecture).

I am a physician, but I firmly believe you should take the fifth Amendment when you are asked questions. Don't volunteer alcohol or tobacco indiscretions.

The physician works for you and is paid by the insurance company. You owning firearms has nothing to do with healthcare unless you are a moron parent talking to a pediatrician and are deserving of his lecture.

And don't be defensive. There is no reason to volunteer inappropriate information.

In other words if you are legal, safe and a good parent with appropriate firearms safety it is not a health/ social medical issue.

If you are an adult with no children or an adult with no children at risk, why are you asking a question?
Would it help you at all to know if your patient had an alcohol dependency?
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Old 12-27-2012, 22:13   #13
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I simply put a line through the question and continued through the rest of them. Nothing was ever mentioned about it.
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Old 12-28-2012, 20:39   #14
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Would it help you at all to know if your patient had an alcohol dependency?
Yes. Believe it or not I believe in a double standard. If I were a physician I would want the patient to tell the truth. If I were a patient, which I rarely am, I think the patient shouldn't volunteer info the physician doesn't need to know. If you have firearms, drink or smoke too much, and need help with these issues, then yes be forthright. If not then I think the patient is giving up too much information.
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Old 12-29-2012, 06:37   #15
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How it would go here in WV:

Doctor: Do you have any guns in the home?

Patient: No.

Doctor: Really?? I have some extras, wanna buy one?
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