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Old 12-25-2012, 14:01   #1
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Would you move for your 2A rights?

I was thinking, pondering, whatever.... Would anyone here move to a state if it didn't support a 2nd AWB. Say for instance Texas....maybe other states unlike Cali or Mass who are almost all the way in support of an awb.

This is not to suggest a civil war or anything but if a state did take action to do this and where I lived wanted my guns I know I would likely move as I am in a situation to do so. My thoughts also lead me to think that a state in support of the 2ndA would gain more revenue do to companies and persons money being brought to the area.

Which brings me to which states have enough space, incentive, etc. to do so. If a state had plenty of jobs to start with people would perform an exodus there. But I believe a lot of patriots would make the move and support the state that supported the Constitution, not just some of it.

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Old 12-25-2012, 14:02   #2
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Old 12-25-2012, 14:10   #3
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I moved from Michigan to Florida in 95 because you could carry in Florida where at that time in Michigan you could not.

So to answer your question yes I would and have.
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Old 12-25-2012, 14:15   #4
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Hell, why not. I'm getting sick of these winters. My company is huge and I'm sure there are a lot of places in the U.S. I could transfer to.
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Old 12-25-2012, 14:15   #5
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Absolutely. Gun ownership is what I consider the most important civil right. I'd move for any of them - searches, speech, religion, free association, etc., but especially for gun rights.

If you would not, you are somewhere between my enemy and just a useless person who happens to own a gun.

However, there is nowhere for me to move. I live in the most pro-gun state of the most pro-gun civilized country in the world. It's all downhill from here.
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Old 12-25-2012, 14:18   #6
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I already have. Moved from overseas. If Texas can't stand her ground and falls there is no place else to go.
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Old 12-25-2012, 14:21   #7
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I would. I came from PA, which was OK but I lived in the Socialist city of Philadelphia. I moved to Florida for the weather and low taxes but if they were anti-gun I would have moved to Texas instead. Many people are moving to Texas from California but I figure it's for the low taxes not because you can carry a gun there.
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Old 12-25-2012, 14:25   #8
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But here's the $64,000 question - would you move to another COUNTRY if federal laws are passed that prohibit concealed carry? I would, if it comes to that. I spent months researching other "democratic" countries, ones that let you carry, have a good climate, low cost-of-living, and good medical care,. So far there are only two countries I would consider, and one is better than the other.

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Old 12-25-2012, 14:29   #9
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I should add even though I am a Florida native I was gone most of my adult life but when I decided to move I did consider gun laws before moved.... I have lived in Arizona and no family there nor a coast. I have been to Texas many times but no family there. Florida however has family and ok gun laws. Lol although it's Christmas and I have yet to see one person not to mention family lololol
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But here's the $64,000 question - would you move to another COUNTRY if federal laws are passed that prohibit concealed carry? I would, if it comes to that. I spent months researching other "democratic" countries, ones that let you carry, have a good climate, low cost-of-living, and good medical care,. So far there are only two countries I would consider, and one is better than the other.
Don't hold out...which are these 2 since you've done the leg work as I wouldn't necessarily be opposed but would rather stand my ground on my home soil.

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Old 12-25-2012, 14:40   #11
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No I would not. There are far more important things to me than guns. Lets just say that I moved to NYC. Having said that, I fully support gun ownership as outlined by the 2nd amendment, and own quite a few guns that I keep with my parents out of state. And that includes guns that certain elected individuals wish to take away from me.

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Old 12-25-2012, 15:40   #12
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I would but there's not much chance of needing to leave Idaho.
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Old 12-25-2012, 16:28   #13
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I did moving from NY to PA ...a big part of why I moved was

1. Job availability in my area of "expertise
2. 2nd amendment rights or lack there of in NY
3. Taxes lower and less in PA

So yeah if all of a sudden PA became NY in those terms(no 2ndmendment rights and lots higher taxes..if gladly move to another place with better(rights) and less(taxes) as long as i got a job to go with it.

But as the guy above me said..PA has had a pretty good support of 2nd amendment rights so im hoping in "safe"....at least state wise.

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Old 12-25-2012, 18:08   #14
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But here's the $64,000 question - would you move to another COUNTRY if federal laws are passed that prohibit concealed carry? I would, if it comes to that. I spent months researching other "democratic" countries, ones that let you carry, have a good climate, low cost-of-living, and good medical care,. So far there are only two countries I would consider, and one is better than the other.
What countries do you think of...if you don't mind me asking.

Not trying to dispute your research but since I come from "another country" and have looked into this topic as well, I suspect your picture is not complete.

Besides from the most likely requirement of becoming a citizen of "another country" and very tight rules in order to qualify, I can't think of a 'shall issue' policy country under your description.
And if the issuing agency doesn't like your nose - you are screwed.
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Old 12-25-2012, 18:15   #15
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I already have. Moved from overseas. If Texas can't stand her ground and falls there is no place else to go.
Good think I'm already here. 8th gen Texan and I'm not leaving until I'm the last guy speaking English. So, that might be another 15, maybe 20 years!
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Old 12-25-2012, 18:22   #16
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But here's the $64,000 question - would you move to another COUNTRY if federal laws are passed that prohibit concealed carry? I would, if it comes to that. I spent months researching other "democratic" countries, ones that let you carry, have a good climate, low cost-of-living, and good medical care,. So far there are only two countries I would consider, and one is better than the other.
If there was another country that had more freedom, I'd already be living there and yes, I have spent plenty of time considering that. The European countries have less of every freedom in the Bill of Rights and WAY less gun freedom - same in Australia, etc. The only way to get more freedom than the U.S. is to go to a backward country where, even though the laws guarantee less freedom, the government has lost control and you get freedom by way of anarchy, like Somalia. Unfortunately, the survival rate of white foreigners isn't too good in those places.

"Democratic" doesn't necessarily promise much freedom, unless you happen to agree with the majority there about everything.
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Old 12-25-2012, 18:23   #17
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But here's the $64,000 question - would you move to another COUNTRY if federal laws are passed that prohibit concealed carry? I would, if it comes to that. I spent months researching other "democratic" countries, ones that let you carry, have a good climate, low cost-of-living, and good medical care,. So far there are only two countries I would consider, and one is better than the other.
I was contemplating the same thing. The $64k question is what countries are these?

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Good think I'm already here. 8th gen Texan and I'm not leaving until I'm the last guy speaking English. So, that might be another 15, maybe 20 years!
15-20 years? I think you are overestimating that one!

For the OP. Yes I do consider 2A rights in choosing where to live. There are some great jobs in CA and NY but I won't take them because of the gun laws.
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I would advocate for a SC Firearms Freedom Act, and hopefully see it passed so we could tell the Feds to get ****ed. If that failed, I would consider ether moving to Texas, or staying put and violating a whole bunch of federal laws.
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15-20 years? I think you are overestimating that one!
I'm trying to stay positive.
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I don't have to move, but I would.
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Old 12-25-2012, 18:33   #21
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But here's the $64,000 question - would you move to another COUNTRY if federal laws are passed that prohibit concealed carry? I would, if it comes to that. I spent months researching other "democratic" countries, ones that let you carry, have a good climate, low cost-of-living, and good medical care,. So far there are only two countries I would consider, and one is better than the other.
If Texas were to secede from the US, I don't have a single friend not moving to Texas.
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Old 12-25-2012, 18:51   #22
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Yes.

Some years back I was offered a excellent flying job for the state of Illinois.

The states gun laws were a major reason I turned the job down and took a much lower paying job flying in Texas.
Never been sorry I did.
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Old 12-25-2012, 19:14   #23
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I'd be going to the place that respects my rights. If that means I'd have to move to Texas, then I would.

I respect a Government that respects my rights and me as well. That's a hell of a lot more than what the government is doing right now.

Needless to say, I don't have too much respect for the current administration and it's marxist/commie ways.
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Old 12-25-2012, 19:17   #24
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When I retire in the next 15-years it will be a consideration. My first consideration is state taxes. We will be moving from the current state we live in. CCW will be a close second.
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Old 12-25-2012, 19:21   #25
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I live in a state that has some of the dumbest gun laws, but there are many other great things to do that you really can't find anywhere else. Would I move? Probably not.
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