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Old 12-23-2012, 07:56   #1
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To those pi$$ed about price gouging

Is it just me or is it hypocritical to claim to be a conservative but then be pi$$ed when businesses raise prices due to high demand? Isn't supply vs demand a core principle of free market economies? If you are truly offended, don't buy from them. Then, when the next ban comes, when a 30 round pmag is $200, you will reminisce about when they were only $50. Just my perspective. Kinda like waiting until your team is in the super bowl and complaining that a $10 t shirt cost $30.
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Old 12-23-2012, 07:59   #2
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Or waiting until the blizzard a find yourself without a shovel. Finally find a store that has them at double the price. And yes, i bought a snow shovel last month too.
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Old 12-23-2012, 08:05   #3
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So now we can't comment on 300% mark ups on products? God forbid we say something to someone about their crappy business practices, we might offend them. Again I ask why does anybody care what we say about these gouges? Buy from them if you want, we won't. Simple as that. But to expect no comments when the raise their prices to 4 x normal is crazy.
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Old 12-23-2012, 08:24   #4
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I could care less,.....if someone wants to price gouge.
If a buyer is stupid enough to buy over priced goods, shame on him.
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Old 12-23-2012, 08:37   #5
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Is it just me or is it hypocritical to claim to be a conservative but then be pi$$ed when businesses raise prices due to high demand?
I could care less about what someone wants to sell their product for. I am more ticked off at why that is so when it comes to another attempt at an AWB. Same goes for energy prices being much higher than they need to be because of lack of an energy policy that will make us energy dependent and cow towing to the greens.

In a way I guess I am getting a last laugh. I made sure I am well prepared so as that recent price spikes are not a concern to me. I find it hilarious that those that I know that are panicking voted for obama and told me he would NEVER attempt anything like this.

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Old 12-23-2012, 08:48   #6
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So now we can't comment on 300% mark ups on products? God forbid we say something to someone about their crappy business practices, we might offend them. Again I ask why does anybody care what we say about these gouges? Buy from them if you want, we won't. Simple as that. But to expect no comments when the raise their prices to 4 x normal is crazy.
Say what you want. But remember most gun shops are small businesses that have taken substantial risk in supporting us. FFL licenses aren't free. They have the risk of going out of business with the signing of an executive order. If i don't like the price i go elsewhere. They wouldn't be raising their prices if people weren't willing to pay them. Look around. Its hard to find any AR stuff. Sounds like capitalism at work to me.
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Old 12-23-2012, 08:51   #7
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I don't like paying for overpriced stuff. But if not for supply and demand, i would be driving a Porsche and not a 10 year old pickup. You gotta pay to play.
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Old 12-23-2012, 08:57   #8
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Old 12-23-2012, 08:59   #9
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Maybe the difference between savvy business decision and gouging is the difference between whether you have something someone else really wants or you really want something someone else has.
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Old 12-23-2012, 09:02   #10
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The problem is when they do a 300% mark up on the first day someone mentions a ban.
Especially when someone has made the purchases and they cancel the orders and then say hey we restocked now its 300% increase in price.
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Old 12-23-2012, 09:13   #11
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OK, So let me get this straight. If you knew someone who would give you three times what your glock is worth you wouldn't sell it? Sure you wouldn't.
The Two local GS that I frequent never raised there prices. They have both been in business long enough to know you do not mess with loyal customers. Perhaps that's why they have been in business so long.
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Old 12-23-2012, 09:23   #12
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There is no legislation on the floor. There will be no ban. Congress cannot get anything done! Business owners chose to go into business thus they should understand the risk. They are not victims of the cost to do business.

Americans are dumb and will panic buy anything. If Americans were smart enough not to pay 300% mark up, the prices would drop. I look at it this way. The used ar15 market will be flooded in several months from all these people that bought more than they needed. Since the ban will never get through, their $1400 ar15 will be bought for $700.
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Old 12-23-2012, 09:34   #13
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Sure I would sell some stuff at a mark up but dam. As a good company you would sell out your current stock then if and when you restock maybe a suttle price increase to reflect the orders and help you have hired or overtime you have run up to get the orders out.
That means a lot after all is said and done. Thats how a business keeps loyal customers.
Hell they even hiked 5.56 ammo to $800 a case.
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Old 12-23-2012, 09:46   #14
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Especially when someone has made the purchases and they cancel the orders and then say hey we restocked now its 300% increase in price.
That is not an ethical way to do business and discourages long term relationships with customers.

It is akin to not honoring a contract.

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Old 12-23-2012, 09:57   #15
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Whats the difference between price gouging and shops adapting to a free market economy and their competition?

Dont get me wrong I hate it...but I dont worry about it much because I already have the guns I need/want. If someone if desperate or foolish enough to pay stupid prices... thats on them not me.
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Old 12-23-2012, 10:03   #16
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I dont think its even in the same arena the way Cheaper than Dirt handled its Business.
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Old 12-23-2012, 10:10   #17
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They have the risk of going out of business with the signing of an executive order.
Where do people come up with this nonsense? Obozo can't ban firearms by executive order.

Even though Obozo THINKS he's God, he's not and even the idiot Eric Holder would tell him it isn't wise to defy two Supreme Court rulings which clearly say firearms ownership is a right protected by the 2nd Amendment. Don
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:52   #18
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It is interesting to look a Buds website. They have six different actions going for popular products, four different ARs, and a couple of AK pistols. Price for a Colt 6920 is up to 3100.00. No price gouging here, they are letting the buyer set the price.
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:56   #19
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I could care less,.....if someone wants to price gouge.
If a buyer is stupid enough to buy over priced goods, shame on him.
Quoted for the truth. It's not my fault some dumb ass was stupid enough to pay me $300 for 10 PMags.
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Old 12-23-2012, 13:19   #20
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they should sell what ever they want for what ever they want.

as long as folks buy it, they will sell it.
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Old 12-23-2012, 13:31   #21
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I will sell a couple of my Pmags right now for 100 bucks each and not even have an ounce of quilt or remorse. If I had a gun shop and could sell a crap AR15 for 2 grand I would.

In fact, I wish I had a glut of rifles and magazines so I could get in on the action.

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Old 12-23-2012, 13:40   #22
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You know, I read all these posts and in a way I can see both sides but there simply is something unethical about significant price gouging.

Let's say your car blew a radiator hose in the middle of the Mojave and you limped into a small gas station. The owner had your hose in stock, normally for $20. What would you think of the ass if he chose to offer it to you for $150 take it or leave it? I don't think any of you supporting "free market" pricing would be saying anything nice about the proprietor I know I wouldn't. Don
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Old 12-23-2012, 13:57   #23
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If the businesses that are raising the prices of say P mags were raising them for soldiers who are in the Middle East and lost or broke the magazines I would feel it is quite a boit closer to an unethical practice. But I am unconvinced that everyone who suddenly paid a hundred dollars for a P mag or is willing to pay three thousand for an AR15 is in exactly the same position as someone fighting in the Middle East or, for that matter, someone who has blown a radiator hose in the Mojave. I am unconvinced that an AR15 is a necessity as much as a want or desire.
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Old 12-23-2012, 14:06   #24
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Some people do not understand what capitalism is.
Some people don't understand what a free market economy is.
Some people don't understand what supply and demand does to the market.
Some people do not prep until the last minute and then think that people will bend over for them.
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Old 12-23-2012, 14:25   #25
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Why is it so hard to comprehend? If they do not raise prices they go out of business!

OK you are a nice guy and you sell everything you have at “normal” price… then what?

You have nothing coming in because everybody is backordered for next decade and your employees that are standing there selling NOTHING!


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