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Old 12-29-2012, 18:59   #76
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Firearms serve one purpose. The one they were designed for, preservation of life. I'd rather not have a functionally ticking time bomb pulling protective duty.
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Sad mentality/mindset here.
Feel free to explain why any of several companies manufacture such a variety of .22 rifles, pistols, and revolvers then.
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Old 12-29-2012, 19:01   #77
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I think it'd make a nice car gun, but then again, this is my car:

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Old 12-29-2012, 19:03   #78
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My 4095 did fail -

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After eating a more than a case of Wolf steel case - a few thousand rounds of gun show reloads - and any other ammo I happen to have - it started to fail to RTB once in a while.

I figured it needed a cleaning - discovered the crack - sent it back.

I got a list of things they replaced - it would have been easier to list the things they did not replace.

Cost me $12 to send it back - they included 2 free mags when the returned it.

Since then 100% trouble free.

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Old 12-29-2012, 19:52   #79
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Did you take a nasty bump to the head over the holidays?
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Old 12-29-2012, 20:16   #80
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we get them through our classes most of the time they work but when they don't, its usually a ammo or mag problem with them.
for a 100 bucks do it.

And make sho yo come wit a beam... da beams is nice yo...
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Old 12-29-2012, 23:30   #81
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Firearms serve one purpose. The one they were designed for, preservation of life. I'd rather not have a functionally ticking time bomb pulling protective duty.
Oh no, internet expert speaking!!!!
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Old 12-29-2012, 23:44   #82
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Multiple accounts of failure in one small gathering of people. Expert? Me? No. Right on the money w/ my assessment? Nailed it.

This is where I hold the microphone directly out in front of me, sideways of course, and let it crash to the floor then turn and walk off (ala Eminem). LOL.

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Old 12-30-2012, 04:09   #83
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I once fired a Phoenix Arms pistol. The one with the long, ventilated barrel. That thing was a beast!!!
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Old 12-30-2012, 06:23   #84
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So you're saying they work?

If you were hired to do a job than you must trust the tool used to do the job.
I'm sure they'll fire 1 round each. If you need more than that, you aren't doing it right. Although, if I was shooting somebody at Hi Point range, I'd probably avoid the noise and use a knife.
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:32   #85
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If I was a hit man, I'd buy several...and drill out the serial numbers and always handle them with gloves and throw them away after one use. Perfect for that.
that actually wouldn't work, Hi-points have the serial number on a metal plate inside of the frame, the only way to get to it is to completely destroy the gun.


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Multiple accounts of failure in one small gathering of people. Expert? Me? No. Right on the money w/ my assessment? Nailed it.
Please direct me to any handgun where you can have a group of 10 people that own it, and the majority of them have never had a malfunction.
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:49   #86
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I've shot one of the 9mm pistols by Hi Point, the trigger was a bit weird and it felt top heavy because it is a blowback design and the slide is heavy pot metal to help slow down the recoil forces. It was surprisingly accurate, but awful heavy for an 8+1 handgun. Here's a YouTube report by Nutnfancy...I generally like his reviews....
Hi-Point Pistols: "I Wish I Could Hate This" by Nutnfancy - YouTube
I couldnt watch past the part where he said that The Quick and the Dead was a good western. I am not going to trust the opinion of anyone who makes that statement!!
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Multiple accounts of failure in one small gathering of people. Expert? Me? No. Right on the money w/ my assessment? Nailed it.

This is where I hold the microphone directly out in front of me, sideways of course, and let it crash to the floor then turn and walk off (ala Eminem). LOL.

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I've got Sigs, Glocks, Walthers, S&W's, and others, but my interest was piqued by the sub-$100 price, so I gave 'em a try.

I've had experience with two C9's, one of which I own, and the other belongs to my daughter's boyfriend. Never a problem with either of them. One was $99 in 2005, and the other was $89 on closeout in 2006. They have drawbacks, of course - big, clunky, crappy sights, crappy trigger, single stack magazine, etc., but I have never been able to induce a malfunction in them.
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Old 12-30-2012, 12:22   #89
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Lol. You have multiple owners stating that they are having issues and the the hi-point is a ticking time bomb.

You're issue is like that of most owners of low quality firearms, you ignore the glaring proof and testimony of those more qualified because it hurts.

Hi-Point makes junk. Plenty of proof right here.

I asked the guys here who are defending their purchases to qualify their claims and I haven't received one response. Sounds like a bunch of 100 rounds a month types swearing their hi-point is flawless. As far as the warranty, it's not worth it. What good is a warranty if it goes click when I need it to go bang? Nothing.

You can make claims all day but if you can't back them with real world numbers it's a waste of my time.

I gave first hand accounts to back my words. I'm still waiting for opposing proof.

My questions on in a previous post, go check them out and answer them. Prove me wrong.

I'm at the range waiting to get started. I'll check back for your response to my questions. I'll hold my breath.


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If High Point pistols were the "potmetalhandgrenadetimebombs" that so many folks claim they are, High Point wouldn't still be in business.
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Old 12-30-2012, 17:54   #91
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If High Point pistols were the "potmetalhandgrenadetimebombs" that so many folks claim they are, High Point wouldn't still be in business.
Gangbangers don't care if a gun is pot metal or gold --- $140 for a "fahwty" = high high sales.

Iirc hipoint's CEO told a LEO training class that the guns leave a certain print so LE can know it was a high crap...

And , many people buy them who don't know squat about guns -- they aren't in business because of the quality of product , it's the price point and uneducated consumer that keeps hipoint (prob one of) the best selling guns in America.

I can't believe some people carry those things ... your life is worth more then $120 and a "lifetime warranty" isn't so enticing when you get killed in a BG attack because the junk malfunctioned,
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Old 12-30-2012, 18:09   #92
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Mine is the best carbine that I own.

Doubters please stand in line down range.

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Mine is the best carbine that I own.

Doubters please stand in line down range.
Qualify this claim please.
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Old 12-30-2012, 18:31   #94
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There is not a store in my general area that will even sell them. They are pretty much known as gangsta guns.
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Old 12-30-2012, 18:48   #95
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Qualify this claim please.

How? I've already posted pic and have ZERO malfunctions.

It's MY carbine.

If you lived close by and willing to stand down range, (signed contract/release ofcourse) I'd take a shot right between your eyeballs.

But I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you wouldn't take that chance.

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Now that i have had time to ponder there target customer AKA gangsta maybe they are a legit Co and want there product to malfunction
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Old 12-30-2012, 19:00   #97
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Now that i have had time to ponder there target customer AKA gangsta maybe they are a legit Co and want there product to malfunction
It's "their" not "there"....knowing is half the battle.
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Old 12-30-2012, 19:10   #98
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How? I've already posted pic and have ZERO malfunctions.

It's MY carbine.

If you lived close by and willing to stand down range, (signed contract ofcourse) I'd take a shot right between your eyeballs.

But I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you wouldn't take that chance.
I'd be willing to take that bet as I'm still here and have been in that position many times. The first time in 03, it's now a few days shy of 2013.

What does a picture prove? Ownership? Ownership means nothing. I'm talking use. How does saying "best carbine that I own" mean anything? Best carbine out of? Compared to? What others do you own. Do you shoot them all? If so how much. Hard use? Range plinker? Duty?

Anyone can say anything is the best but it means nothing w/o something to measure it against.
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How? I've already posted pics and have ZERO malfunctions.

It's MY carbine.

If you lived close by and were willing to stand down range, (signed contract/release ofcourse (of course)) I'd take a shot right between your eyeballs.

But I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you wouldn't take that chance.
If you're correcting posters let correct you.

Oh, and taking the shot doesn't mean you'll make it. Where's the wink smiley face thing?
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Old 12-30-2012, 19:22   #100
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If you're correcting posters lets correct you.

Oh, and taking the shot doesn't mean you'll make it. Where's the wink smiley face thing?
Listen, if you don't want one don't buy one. Not hard to understand.

Again, sign a release/contract stating you won't hold me accountable for whatever happens when I put my red dot on your hollow head.

Not that I'd ever want to. Insert smilie face.

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