[Frankie Bullets]

The Journal News this Sunday & Monday 12/23 & 12/24 printed a front page article showing all registered pistol license holders in Rockland, Westchester and Putnam counties. Their web site shows a map with names and addresses. Every Law Enforcement Officer with a license is listed. This has put our families in danger for no other reason than to punish LEGAL firearms owners. There has already been a threat to a Detective that lives in this area. I ask my fellow brothers and sisters to Not show any courtesy, especially in regards to vehicle and traffic laws, to members of the Press. Maybe when they start to respect our profession than they can be treated as humans. The owners of the paper states that this is legal and was obtained thru the freedom of information statues. They do not list the illegal guns and certain groups that commit the majority of the crimes. It is time we use our training to teach them that we are the good guys and are sick of being used in negative ways.

[3Speedyfish3]

Funny how the editor outed the writer of the article as having a S&W 686 and NYC permit, but the writer's address is not listed or mapped in the article he wrote.

Turnabout is fairplay. A local blog gives the address, phone number, and a photo of the writer:

http://christopherfountain.wordpress...pistol-permit/

Enjoy!

Randall

[dvrdwn72]

Well, this just floors me. While the criminals, even those convicted are shown more protection. More over than those who serve.

[nikerret]

If you don't have something nice to say, keep it off the internet, where it can later be used against you, in court.

[txleapd]

An open call, on a public forum, for retribution is never a good thing.


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[janice6]

That whole move is so wrong. I was wondering if you guys would get caught up in the "do gooders" net. Sorry for you.

[The Fist Of Goodness]

They demand that your 2A rights be stripped away as they abuse ( and hide behind) the 1st.

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[lawman800]

Wow, seen stuff like this before... this is not journalism... this is just witch hunting.

[dwhite53]

If our non-gun owning comrades in the affected
areas are saying they are more at risk for crime
because the criminals know they don't have guns,
isn't this admitting to the deterrent effect that
gun ownership in general has in reducing crime?

All the Best,
D. White

[bigdogmurph]

now the bad guys know where to get their hands on guns.

[DaBigBR]

Originally Posted by Frankie Bullets

I ask my fellow brothers and sisters to Not show any courtesy, especially in regards to vehicle and traffic laws, to members of the Press. Maybe when they start to respect our profession than they can be treated as humans. ... It is time we use our training to teach them that we are the good guys and are sick of being used in negative ways.

Just so I'm clear...

You want us (law enforcement) to take action against members of an entire profession (the media) for the acts of the employees of one such outfit on one occasion?

How does that differ from any number of people or causes wanting the public to take action against all law enforcement officers based on the employee(s) of one agency on one occasion?

I also don't exactly understand how taking enforcement action against these people as retaliation for this article is an example of us "using our training to teach them we are the good guys." I think "officer vows retaliation against newspaper over article" is a headline that does not say "good guy" to very many people.

I agree that it's bull****, but I think that your demand is out of line and childish.

[Vigilant]

Originally Posted by DaBigBR

Just so I'm clear...

You want us (law enforcement) to take action against members of an entire profession (the media) for the acts of the employees of one such outfit on one occasion?

How does that differ from any number of people or causes wanting the public to take action against all law enforcement officers based on the employee(s) of one agency on one occasion?

I also don't exactly understand how taking enforcement action against these people as retaliation for this article is an example of us "using our training to teach them we are the good guys." I think "officer vows retaliation against newspaper over article" is a headline that does not say "good guy" to very many people.

I agree that it's bull****, but I think that your demand is out of line and childish.

It sounds as though he is not suggesting retaliation, rather a denial of any breaks on traffic tickets, etc. Still not a good response IMO.

I think a lot of us are fed up with the news media, and some folks may be getting a bit frustrated. Hopefully cool heads will prevail.

[RocPO]

Originally Posted by nikerret

If you don't have something nice to say, keep it off the internet, where it can later be used against you, in court.

This x 1000.

[DaBigBR]

Originally Posted by Vigilant

It sounds as though he is not suggesting retaliation, rather a denial of any breaks on traffic tickets, etc. Still not a good response IMO.

I think a lot of us are fed up with the news media, and some folks may be getting a bit frustrated. Hopefully cool heads will prevail.

You can define it however you want. He's calling for other officers to adjust the way that they treat members of the media specifically in response to this article.

[Morris]

Helluva first post!

[oldman11]

Originally Posted by lawman800

Wow, seen stuff like this before... this is not journalism... this is just witch hunting.

You got it lawman. Back in 1692 in Massachusetts the exact same thing happened. Luckily the witch-hunts didn't last long. And here we are again, 320 years later and they haven't learned a damn thing.

[Glock45Lover]

I have a question and a couple of comments:

LEOs in New York have to have a "pistol license?"

Most neighborhood folks will know who the cops are and where they live. I would think that would DETER problems.

As far as the OP, if he is really an LEO he just might be in the wrong business. The tone of the post indicates he is thin-skinned. That is not a good thing. Hopefully, he is a non-LEO just trying to stir the pot.

If you are an LEO, you have my apology. But you still need to get some thicker skin. You'll never survive law enforcement work without it.

[TK-421]

This is exactly why I don't like needing permits. I don't want my name associated with anything gun related, because concealed is concealed, and it's nobody's business whether or not I own firearms.

[Cav]

It is rather sad that they would post such info.

I have never seen the liberal media post all the sex offenders, all the same sex marriages, all the drug arrests, or all the unarmed people.

P.S. for NY it seems like a size good list. At first I thought it was who did not own guns.

[Sharkey]

Well I live in TX but it still pisses me off. The lamestream media continues in their liberal journalism. There is no good reason to post that information and the people of NY should demand such.

Maybe Bloomberg can get an investigation going and post the names and addresses of everyone who has over a 20% BMI for the good of the state.

These are just volley's being fired in the cause for tyranny. People can fight for liberty (literally) or they can accept the reigns of servitude. It's all interconnected. The very politicians that want to take away citizen's rights are the same ones who spend more of my money on programs that are unsustainable.

I believe sooner rather than later, the 49% will decide that they have had enough and Hoffa is right, blood will be spilled.

[knoxvegasdaddy]

Originally Posted by Morris

Helluva first post!

Well Played Sir! I am now feeling the burn of beer in my nose.

[Bren]

Originally Posted by 3Speedyfish3

Funny how the editor outed the writer of the article as having a S&W 686 and NYC permit, but the writer's address is not listed or mapped in the article he wrote.

Turnabout is fairplay. A local blog gives the address, phone number, and a photo of the writer:

http://christopherfountain.wordpress...pistol-permit/

Enjoy!

Randall

In the first thread about this, I completely overlooked that he edited his own information out of the original story. Now that's integrity...not. What a scumbag.

The police in New York really have to have a pistol license? Here we just have a statute that says the police can carry a gun anywhere, any time. The "permit" is a badge.

[misunderestimated]

My Name and address is on this map,along with allot of active and retired LEO

Prior to HR218 in 2004 .If you planned on keeping your firearm when you retired you needed a Pistol permit to keep your firearm.

Well one of the more active pistol permit clerks assisted allot of the local LEO guys in getting there permits in place prior to retirement, who then encouraged the city guys to do the same. we are a suburb of NYC and our county is loaded with allot of the NYPD because it such a short commute.

In our area its not common for a LEO to bring his or her car home at night unless they are one of the bosses or a K9 so unless you know them personally you don't even realize what they do for a living and there home and family is just as safe as a non leos home

Although I am not ok that I landed on this interactive map.I feel its catastrophic that all of the LEO'S landed on it. Its just bad Business doing this to them.

[Mayhem like Me]

In many states it is illegal to knowingly list, the home address of law enforcement officers...New York need so get on the ball.

[ottomatic]

Here there is no REQUIREMENT for LEOs to have a carry permit, but it is encouraged. Even with LEOSA, because if you get suspended for whatever reason, you now have no other protection. If you get involved in a shooting (regardless of outcome) you will be suspended for the duration of the investigation (which can last several months). So a carry permit is your only defense.