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Old 07-15-2012, 09:42   #1
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Can I carry in Ikea

I was at Ikea yesterday and they had a sign that I don't specifically remember the wording but, it was implying that no firearms were allowed. Can I still carry in that store even though I have a conceal liceness?
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Old 07-15-2012, 10:04   #2
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Refer here...http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/florida.pdf

“No Firearm” signs in Florida have no force of law unless they are posted on property that is specifically mentioned in State Law as being off limits to those with a Permit/License to Carry. If you are in a place not specifically mentioned in the law that is posted and they ask you to leave, you must leave. If you refuse to leave then you are breaking the law and can be charged. Even if the property is not posted and you are asked to leave you must leave. Always be aware of the possibility that responding Police Officers who may have been called without your knowledge and may not know the laws on trespass etc. could arrest you even if you are within the law.
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Old 07-15-2012, 12:36   #3
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If it is against the law to carry, ie, courts, government buildings for example, maybe places that sell liquor, I bow to the law.

If it is a business for example, IMO if they want everyone but criminals disarmed, then they should be liable if anything happens to a higher degree than a non anti-firearm establishment. For they made their rules disarming lawful carrying people thus it should be their responsibility then to provide for instance armed security. Just my opinion though.
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Old 07-15-2012, 13:16   #4
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Old 07-15-2012, 13:23   #5
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In Ohio, it is only problematic if you get caught, and, even then, all they can do, is ask you to leave, and if you do, there is no recourse for them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 07-17-2012, 05:25   #6
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Legally you can carry. The question then remains; do you want to be where you know youíre not wanted? More often than not my answer is no. If at all possible Iíll chose a competitor to give them my business, even if it is a few dollars more. For example, I won't step foot in Toyís R Us, I donít care how competitive they make something Iím looking for.

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Old 07-17-2012, 05:28   #7
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In Ohio, it is only problematic if you get caught, and, even then, all they can do, is ask you to leave, and if you do, there is no recourse for them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In Florida as well. If asked to leave, do so immediately (no lip service), then again that applies whether youíre carrying or not. You could be charged with trespassing otherwise, in our case it may even be armed trespassing.

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Old 07-17-2012, 09:13   #8
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We are neighbors, CC too...

As covered, signs have no legal weight in FL. I ignore them & if your concealing right no one should know.
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Old 07-17-2012, 14:38   #9
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don't read the sign.
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Old 07-17-2012, 20:20   #10
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In Texas it has to be 30.06 posted to be legal.
"no gun" signs carry no weight here.

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Old 07-17-2012, 22:12   #11
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Old 07-18-2012, 00:00   #12
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If it is against the law to carry, ie, courts, government buildings for example, maybe places that sell liquor, I bow to the law.

If it is a business for example, IMO if they want everyone but criminals disarmed, then they should be liable if anything happens to a higher degree than a non anti-firearm establishment. For they made their rules disarming lawful carrying people thus it should be their responsibility then to provide for instance armed security. Just my opinion though.
This. Ask for the manager and ask if he has hired security... if the answer is no then look him in the eye and tell him that he doesn't deserve your business. Walk away.
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Old 12-27-2012, 20:51   #13
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The ikea in round rock Texas has the required sign to ban chl holders from carrying a weapon. In fact the sign is twice the size as required by law. They also have a sticker on the door advertising a gun free zone. Today I posted on their Facebook account a simple question of why they have this policy and they deleted my post.
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Old 12-27-2012, 22:04   #14
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Old 12-27-2012, 22:25   #15
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If its concealed, no one should know anyway. Carry away.

I don't particularly like 'the man' telling me where I can defend myself.
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Old 12-28-2012, 05:39   #16
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Carrying in Ikea in Israel is kosher.
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Old 12-28-2012, 06:50   #17
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I have made it my hobby to write to stores that don't allow CCW on their premises. In my letters I am polite and point out that I have completed and passed State and Federal background checks. I ask them what they know about their nonccw customers. I ask them to change their policy and promise to shop there again as soon as they do.

I refuse to give money to people who violate my civil rights. I would encourage you to do the same. But a silent protest doesn't work. If Ikea got 10,000 letters explaining why we won't shop there, maybe they would reconsider their policy.
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Old 12-28-2012, 07:13   #18
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Legally you can carry. The question then remains; do you want to be where you know you’re not wanted? More often than not my answer is no. If at all possible I’ll chose a competitor to give them my business, even if it is a few dollars more. For example, I won't step foot in Toy’s R Us, I don’t care how competitive they make something I’m looking for.

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In many cases, it's not that we're unwanted, it's that the lawyers have forced the company to consider the potential ramifications of a customer using a gun and accidentally shooting another customer.

If a company spokesperson comes out and says, "Guns are icky" I will certainly avoid buying their products when possible.

But if their only act is to put up a meaningless sign, I tend to keep that act separate from my decision to shop there.

In other words, if there is something I want to buy at Ikea, I will buy it at Ikea, and simply ignore the sign as I carry my lawfully concealed weapon.

(Has Ikea come out of the closet as an 'anti-gun' corporation? I honestly don't know.)
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Old 12-28-2012, 07:59   #19
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why would you do business with this Troll-faced, stingy, sob who knowingly used Forced Labour ?

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Old 12-28-2012, 08:24   #20
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Are you a literate adult, or a wannabe gangster? If the property owner says they don't want guns on their property, go elsewhere or lock it up. IF your plan A is to make excuses or claim ignorance for your behavior, you might want to have a good plan B.
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I was at Ikea yesterday and they had a sign that I don't specifically remember the wording but, it was implying that no firearms were allowed. Can I still carry in that store even though I have a conceal liceness?
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:22   #21
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There is nothing on Ikea's website to indicate a gun-free corporate policy. If a store is posted, it must be a local decision that I'd address to the manager. I agree a silent protest will accomplish nothing, so maybe even writing corporate about a local store policy might be helpful.

As to those who chose to ignore private property rights because they disagree with them, that's too bad. You are, selfishly, missing an opportunity to educate the non-gun crowd, at best, or debasing your moral position, at worst. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 12-28-2012, 12:07   #22
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In Texas it has to be 30.06 posted to be legal.
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Can somebody post a picture of a proper "30.06" sign? I have heard about them for years, but - living in AZ, have never seen one.
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Can somebody post a picture of a proper "30.06" sign? I have heard about them for years, but - living in AZ, have never seen one.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Texas+concealed...%22+sign+image
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Old 12-28-2012, 14:07   #24
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The IKEA in Houston did apparently have a 30.06 at some point in time, but hasn't on my last few trips. They have the standard "no firearms" sign, but that's not sufficient to prevent a licensed CHL holder in Texas, AFAIK.
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Folks who want to emulate a criminal have to have fun somehow. It's fascinating how Merka has swung from a culture of honor and respect to how much an individual can get away with. If no property owner's rights carry weight, don't cry when someone appropriates yours for their desired use.
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