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Old 12-24-2012, 09:31   #126
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Exactly. Although recoil is a trainable thing to deal with, how the gun fits you is more important. I shoot my XD45C as well as the G19, same size, why not carry the 45?
The last AWB ban spawned the compact pistol, lots of new 45acp designs, etc. I would expect the allure of a full size, 15-18 shot handgun will be a lot less if you only get 10+1. Then "old" guns like the 1911 will return to prominence when someone wants a full size gun.
Yeah, maybe I ought to hold on to that GI Expert after all.....
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Old 12-24-2012, 09:33   #127
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Hmmm... where was this formidable voting block last month??
Taking a week to formulate a response while they held their finger in the wind to see which way the wind was blowing.
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Old 12-24-2012, 09:54   #128
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:07   #129
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:15   #130
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i don't understand this thread. will all the 9mm guys be turning in their standard capacity mags to be burned, crushed, or whatever?

will you be turning over your ar15 mags, m14 mags, ext, ext? all your standard g21 or g22 mags? gone?
I'm not telling you on this thread, that's for sure.
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Old 12-24-2012, 18:11   #131
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The larger magazine capacity, for me, is a major selling point for using 9mm. Assuming there is a grandfather clause, it wouldn't affect me because I'm well invested in the 9mm platform and have plenty of mags. If I were a new shooter just getting started in a post-ban era, I would probably go with .45 acp. Hard to say without digging into it more, but it's an interesting question. I'd bet we would see a decline in 9mm post-ban.
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Old 12-24-2012, 18:48   #132
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Hmmm 9mm is not high capacity guns. My bed room gun is a FN ps90. that is a high capacity gun. Guess how many round it holds????

I often carry a FN FiveseveN. guess how many rounds it carries. in the low capacity magazine and the high capacity magazine (30 rounds). I do understand there is a califorina magazine for the FN 5.7x28. I guess it could happen.

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Old 12-24-2012, 19:07   #133
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I like the two 9mm weapons I have, and I'll be adding a G17, G17L or G34 and G26 along with a subcompact single stack 9mm as well regardless of any impending ban. Those are the only 9mms on my list, but I like the caliber and will continue shooting and reloading it.

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Old 12-24-2012, 19:08   #134
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Old 12-24-2012, 19:31   #135
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Coincidentally, my first 1911 is on the way as an Xmas gift to myself. I bet the G30 will be a popular choice if a new awb goes into action.
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Old 12-24-2012, 21:31   #136
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Sticking with my 15 and 20 round mags for the EDC G-20.
Regardless of what they do.

Of course, if we shift focus from 7 page threads on GT, and ALL of us Emailed our congresscritters telling them they had damn well better NOT support such legislation, it would be a better use of our time.
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Old 12-24-2012, 23:20   #137
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+1 on emailing congress critters. We all need to start tomorrow and make that a Christmas present to yourself, and countrymen!
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Old 12-25-2012, 04:35   #138
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I'll stick with 9mm regardless.
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Old 12-25-2012, 04:44   #139
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It would just give me a reason to buy yet another gun!
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:33   #140
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Living in Kommifornia, we have been stuck w/ 10+1 for some time. My XD45c is the same size as a G19, same round count out here. When, not if, we return to the AWB & 10rd mags, you'll see a significant drop in full size guns being sold. It happened last time. That was when the compct boom started. Why carry a G17 w/ 10+1, when you can carry a G26, etc. If you can shoot a larger caliber, round count will no longer be a deciding factor.
IMO, start planning for it, the AWB will be a permanent law next year. I hate to say I told you, but for all those that just had to vote their conscious instead of Romney. PBO was just waiting for something like this to happen so they could capitalize on it & they will. So now we get a more severe gun control & a crappy Euro style economy. Thank a liberal or libertarian for this one.



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Exactly!!!
Double exactly - the low information voter (aka uninformed) are taking us all down the European sewer. It all starts with the liberals controlling the education of our children and now my grandchildren. It has taken 2 generations to get us here now the question is can the country recover?
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Old 12-25-2012, 08:01   #141
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I already usually carry guns with low capacity magazines, like a single-stack .380 or a revolver. However, if the higher capacity guns are restricted to 10 rounds, then I'd definitely carry a more powerful caliber like .40, .45 or 10mm at times when I currently carry something like my Browning Hi Power or Glock 17.

I'd keep the 9mm's for the range and competition.
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Old 12-25-2012, 08:01   #142
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So, a majority of the debate in 9mm vs 45acp comes to capacity vs power. I know there are other arguments, but that's what I hear the most. So my question is, if a 10 round magazine limit is instated, will you switch to 40sw or 45acp or stay with 9mm in handguns that can hold 10 in either caliber?

I am kind of leaning that, if I can only have 10, I might as well have the biggest 10 I can.
10mm G29 is 10 rounds anyway
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Old 12-25-2012, 09:11   #143
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@carbuncle, if you ever thought of competition the g34 is the real deal. Out of the box,great for most of us. Just a few dollars will turn it into championship pistol.

Matchs are also lots of fun. Can get your adrenaline titer up.
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Old 12-25-2012, 09:23   #144
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Of course, if we shift focus from 7 page threads on GT, and ALL of us Emailed our congresscritters telling them they had damn well better NOT support such legislation, it would be a better use of our time.
That is absolutely the very best action all of us can take, and it only takes the same amount of time as posting one comment on Glock Talk.

The Radical Left has millions of indoctrinated collectivist robo-callers/advocates, thanks to the Teachers Unions and negligent parents. They're advocating every day on behalf of neo-Stalinists regarding any number of issues and proposals that extend State control over the individual. Yet so many of us raised with a sacred respect for the US Constitution and the Founders' vision of individual rights and responsibilities are too lazy to vote or even e-mail our elected representatives about our alleged concerns over losing our rights.

Right now --- today --- the collectivists are sending out millions of Tweets and messages on Facebook trashing individual rights and advocating for federal laws that void the Second Amendment, our right to "choose" and individual "self-determination". What are you doing today?
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The larger magazine capacity, for me, is a major selling point for using 9mm. Assuming there is a grandfather clause, it wouldn't affect me because I'm well invested in the 9mm platform and have plenty of mags. If I were a new shooter just getting started in a post-ban era, I would probably go with .45 acp. Hard to say without digging into it more, but it's an interesting question. I'd bet we would see a decline in 9mm post-ban.
Lord Feinstein said that there will be no grandfather clause this time around. Of course, what she says now and what we wind up with later are two different things. I rather believe they all know the futility of what they are trying to accomplish if the don't make a ban with out a grandfather clause and don't make it retroactive.
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There won't be a ban so it's nothing to worry about.

In a fantasy land with the 1994 style AWB re-eneacted, I have enough magazines I still won't have to worry about it.

Besides, my daily carry 9mm uses a 10 round magazine (Glock 26)


Can we stop the chicken little/sky is falling 'we've already lost our rights might as well accept it bull**** yet?
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Sticking with my 15 and 20 round mags for the EDC G-20.
Regardless of what they do.

Of course, if we shift focus from 7 page threads on GT, and ALL of us Emailed our congresscritters telling them they had damn well better NOT support such legislation, it would be a better use of our time.
You are living in la-la land. Look what just happened in the recent election??!! I could write Feinstein & Boxer until my fingers fell off, isn't going to change their votes, not one. Most people put their liberal reps BACK into office. Many so called libertarian or even a few Dems, call them selves conservative on guns & then vote these same morons back into office! Pick a frickin side. If you are pro gun, you can NOT be a Dem. Just like you can not be a Catholic & be pro choice. That's wanting the cake & eating it too. That is 100% devoid of principle. SO yeah, write your idiot liberal Rep & see what happens. Talk about a waste of time & energy.
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You are living in la-la land. Look what just happened in the recent election??!! I could write Feinstein & Boxer until my fingers fell off, isn't going to change their votes, not one. Most people put their liberal reps BACK into office. Many so called libertarian or even a few Dems, call them selves conservative on guns & then vote these same morons back into office! Pick a frickin side. If you are pro gun, you can NOT be a Dem. Just like you can not be a Catholic & be pro choice. That's wanting the cake & eating it too. That is 100% devoid of principle. SO yeah, write your idiot liberal Rep & see what happens. Talk about a waste of time & energy.
I didn't realize you lived in California. That sucks.

PS: You can be pro-gun and vote Democrat. Not everybody votes solely based on gun rights/2A rights.

By your logic I cannot vote Republican because I support gay marriage.
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There won't be a ban so it's nothing to worry about.

In a fantasy land with the 1994 style AWB re-eneacted, I have enough magazines I still won't have to worry about it.

Besides, my daily carry 9mm uses a 10 round magazine (Glock 26)


Can we stop the chicken little/sky is falling 'we've already lost our rights might as well accept it bull**** yet?
Really, now there is a guy hiding his head in the sand.

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PS: You can be pro-gun and vote Democrat. Not everybody votes solely based on gun rights/2A rights.

By your logic I cannot vote Republican because I support gay marriage.
No it;s not s single issue thing it's a mind set. To vote Dem & say you are pro gun is like being Catholic & saying you are pro choice. You can NOT be married to both religions. So yeah, IMO, voting Dem & being pro gun is kidding yourself. You can't call youreself a vegan & eat meat. Same thing. Pick a frickin side. IMO, all liberals should show their solidarity & turn in their guns. It is a philosphy w/ liberals, you can't in good concience have it both ways, but I know, it's a liberal thing to do. Like they think they can spend their way out of debt. I could go on & on & on about the liberal mind set, but hey, it's Christmas. Then again, another thing liberals want & have changed.
BTW, the conservative move against gays is not so much Rebuplican as it is religious. I am not religious, so I don't really care either way & I still vote Republcican because the result of not voting that way is Obama & his ilk, $16T in debt & 8% permanant unemployement. Socialism doesn;t work anywhere, but liberals want it here.
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What makes me think so? The same things that made me think this 4 years ago when everybody said there would be new bans after Obama was elected the first time.
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