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Old 12-20-2012, 02:47   #41
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I had a conversation with a friend today who was planning on buying a new Glock and he asked my opinion.

I told him to buy a Glock 30SF because the mags are already 10 round and he would probably always be able to buy them post AWB unless he planned on buying a crap load of 15/17rd "standard" mags but even if he did who knows how long the ban would last and could he afford to buy enough mags to last 20+yrs or even find that many at this point.

If your in his same situation this is a serious question to consider I'm glad the OP brought it up.

Also I believe it is possible this will calm down and nothing will come of it but that way of thinking is that these type of shootings will not happen again in the near future and if it does their could be some sort of EO or rush to ban, and as terrible as the idea sounds I think their will be more, I really really hope not though it is a tragedy and depressed me I have a 6 year old in about the same grade as these poor children.

Also when I say more I don't necessarily mean a mass shooting because every little bit of gun violence is going to be exploited 10 fold by the liberal media and their self serving agenda trying to look like they know something or they care so much about the poor people afflicted by these tragedies it makes me sick.

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Old 12-20-2012, 08:16   #42
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No I have enough normal cap mags to last till I die.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:45   #43
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Hmmm... where was this formidable voting block last month??
Last month, these same pol-lie-ticians were insistent that there were no need for new gun laws. I've seen many libs on this forum criticize anyone that even suggested Obama would support an AWB.
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:52   #44
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Last month, these same pol-lie-ticians were insistent that there were no need for new gun laws. I've seen many libs on this forum criticize anyone that even suggested Obama would support an AWB.
There are LIBERALS in this gun forum?
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:58   #45
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Having lived through the '94 AWB, I have acquired several lifetimes worth of 17 round G17 magazines and will be sticking with the 9mm for the foreseeable future regardless of what the jerks in DC do to us.
SUre, until you get caught on the street with them. Depending on how they write such crap laws, possesion could be a crime. So at least, confiscated mag, fine & at worst, some jail time. Yeah, I'll just caryy the old 1911.
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:02   #46
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Heck anyone could just take apart the mag and when needed they would just put it back together and not care for the law if something were to happen. You think if a criminal is gonna do something bad their gonna stop and grab a 10 rounder because they respect that law and not the murder laws.

If a bad guy dosent care about murder/robbery/assault laws, why they hell would they care about a hi cap mag ban.




That is the rub w/ any gun law, it only affects the law abiding. Handguns are banned in Chicago, doesn't stop the 100s of handgun shootings each month by criminals. But we all know that. It's the boobs in Washington, people that know nothing about guns, that are trying to craft laws to control us. The really sick thing, they use the bodies of 6yr olds to push their agenda. That alone should make anyone turn in their Dem union card. Pathetic really, but those are the people running things. If you helped by not voting or voting libertarian last election, you should be ashamed.
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:11   #47
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Well for a couple of months now, despite having concealable 13+rd 9mms, that are concealable, several sizes of .45 acp and .40 S&W, when I have carried an auto it's been either a S&W 3913 or 908 soo.... of course I regularly carry a 5 shot .44 special or 6 shot .357 loaded with +p .38s.

I don't expect one stop shots from any handgun I just pick my gunfights to match the gun I'm carrying


i just have to ask, how does one pick their gunfight? I am pretty sure they pick you. Reallity, a mag ban doesn't bother me, I often carry a 1911PD, spare mag, pretty sure that gets me out of 99% of things that may happen on the street. If I need more than 16rds, I am doing something really stupid. CCW is a fight to get away, not a license to go looking for trouble.
It just pisses me off that the govt is going to stick their nose in & chip away until they get a total ban. We all know limiting mag cap does nothing. So when the violence continues, they'll say "it's still a gun problem & we just need to limit everyone to single shots", or some such BS. So best to never let them have concesion on any gun issue. There are no bad guns, only bad people. Bad people are what the 2A was designed to allow us to protect ourselves form. Of course, liberals aren't much on the Constitution, unless it benefits them.
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No I have enough normal cap mags to last till I die.
So do I, thank God.
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Old 12-20-2012, 14:26   #49
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Both my CCWs have less than 10 round capacities. Any new ban won't affect my carry choices.
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SUre, until you get caught on the street with them. Depending on how they write such crap laws, possesion could be a crime.
The '94AWB "grand-fathered" the possession of magazines with greater than 10 rounds capacity and if we see reinstatement (which I doubt since Heller says that banning an entire class of guns or those in common usage is unconstitutional) it'll likely be included again.

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So at least, confiscated mag, fine & at worst, some jail time. Yeah, I'll just caryy the old 1911.
Nope, "at least" is "grand-fathered" possession (the most likely option) of those mags already in our possession- no jail time. Until it becomes reality, I ain't gonna worry about it. Enjoy your 1911.
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Old 12-20-2012, 15:09   #52
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My predictions for after a high cap mag ban:

There will be a renewed interest in the 1911 and stock will rise for companies producing entry level priced 1911's.

Glock will be forced to (finally!) produce a full size, single stack, slim frame model to retain market share.
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Old 12-20-2012, 16:07   #53
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My predictions...

Glock will be forced to (finally!) produce a full size, single stack, slim frame model to retain market share.
Glocks primary market is LE and Mil and they made it through the last AWB without stooping to single stacks.
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Old 12-20-2012, 16:11   #54
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If it ever came down to me being limited to only 10 rounds, I'd happily carry my 19 with ten-round mags, or my 26 with standard flush mags.

Well, not "happily", but I wouldn't feel terribly stripped. I carry spares anyway.
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Old 12-20-2012, 16:14   #55
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Here in NY the ASB never really lifted. We can only have 10 round mags . I still carry a 9mm ..

Living under it is really no big deal.

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Old 12-20-2012, 16:20   #56
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So, a majority of the debate in 9mm vs 45acp comes to capacity vs power. I know there are other arguments, but that's what I hear the most. So my question is, if a 10 round magazine limit is instated, will you switch to 40sw or 45acp or stay with 9mm in handguns that can hold 10 in either caliber?

I am kind of leaning that, if I can only have 10, I might as well have the biggest 10 I can.
I have 9mm, 357 Sig, 40 S&W and 45 ACP handguns.
Just bought a boat load of hi cap mags for the first three.

But the short answer to your question?
If 10 rounds is max and I'm buying a new full size gun?
It will be a .45.

My P2000SK doesn't come in 45 and uses 9 round 40 mags.
Although it will work with 12 round P2000 40 mags too.
But for a sub compact I'm still going to run 40 going forward.
I just bought a bunch of 12 round P2000 mags and Xgrips too - LOL!

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So, a majority of the debate in 9mm vs 45acp comes to capacity vs power. I know there are other arguments, but that's what I hear the most. So my question is, if a 10 round magazine limit is instated, will you switch to 40sw or 45acp or stay with 9mm in handguns that can hold 10 in either caliber?

I am kind of leaning that, if I can only have 10, I might as well have the biggest 10 I can.
Why switch when I have all the pre-ban mags I should ever need?

Then again, I would probably buy a few 10 rounders for range time.
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Nope, "at least" is "grand-fathered" possession (the most likely option) of those mags already in our possession- no jail time. Until it becomes reality, I ain't gonna worry about it. Enjoy your 1911.
Well, IMO, you are loking at best case scenario. Liberals won't make the mistakes they made w/ the last AWB. No sunset & few grandfather clauses. They can easily make them illegal, confiscation would follow a grace period where you turn them in & they pay you for them. After that, illegal, confiscation & jail time. It's how it's done in other countries. You have your head in the sand if you think they are not going to go big this time. When you are walking on dead children, it's an easy lift.
Thanks, I do enjoy my 1911, w/ a spare mag, not many problems I could not solve.
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Old 12-20-2012, 17:15   #59
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We just might see some new interest in the Glock 37.
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Well, IMO, you are loking at best case scenario. Liberals won't make the mistakes they made w/ the last AWB. No sunset & few grandfather clauses. They can easily make them illegal, confiscation would follow a grace period where you turn them in & they pay you for them. After that, illegal, confiscation & jail time. It's how it's done in other countries. You have your head in the sand if you think they are not going to go big this time. When you are walking on dead children, it's an easy lift.
Thanks, I do enjoy my 1911, w/ a spare mag, not many problems I could not solve.
You paint a grim picture, Fred - but who knows. The media has reported (and they ALWAYS get their facts correct ), that the president will use a combination of Executive Orders and Congressional approval to get this done. We have the Constitution behind us with its checks and balances, but Executive Orders are something else. Even the checks and balances may not work this time. No politician wants to throw his career down the toilet by backing common sense and the common man.
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