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01-08-2013, 18:19
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Originally Posted by cowboy1964
I will have plenty of hi-cap mags so it's really not going to be a factor. Now if I were just starting out and was limited to 10 I would probably go with .45 in a full size gun, but the other calibers would still have a place in subcompacts.
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Are you assuming that they wont ban possession of hi caps?
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01-09-2013, 12:34
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Originally Posted by writwing
Are you assuming that they wont ban possession of hi caps?
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They'll try, But I am wondering if a GOP-controlled HR will pass it?
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01-09-2013, 14:39
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There will be no significant legislation.
However, King Hussein sounds ready to fire off some executive orders in a unilateral grab for power.
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01-09-2013, 15:22
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Originally Posted by Warp
There will be no significant legislation.
However, King Hussein sounds ready to fire off some executive orders in a unilateral grab for power.
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I hope that you are right about no significant legislation.
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01-10-2013, 12:36
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I have mags but NOTHING TO PUT IN THEM!
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01-10-2013, 12:39
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Originally Posted by BigAlE
I have mags but NOTHING TO PUT IN THEM!
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And you have a governor who wants to take them away from you.
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01-10-2013, 12:50
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Originally Posted by SCmasterblaster
And you have a governor who want to take them away from you. 
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Won't be getting them.
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01-10-2013, 13:07
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Originally Posted by Warp
There will be no significant legislation.
However, King Hussein sounds ready to fire off some executive orders in a unilateral grab for power.
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Same thing isn't it? The result will be an infringment on our gun rights. Again, thank a liberal or libertarian.
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01-10-2013, 13:09
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Originally Posted by fredj338
Same thing isn't it? The result will be an infringment on our gun rights. Again, thank a liberal or libertarian. 
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Thank a Libertarian?
Give me a ****ing break.
I suppose voting for the guy who ACTUALLY has an AWB in his history (...Romney) is super duper awesome for our 2A rights?
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01-10-2013, 13:13
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Thank a Libertarian?
Give me a ****ing break.
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Sure, if you voted for anyone but Romeny, like it or not, you voted for Obama, might as well voted for him directly. Fact.
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01-10-2013, 13:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Warp
Thank a Libertarian?
Give me a ****ing break.
I suppose voting for the guy who ACTUALLY has an AWB in his history (...Romney) is super duper awesome for our 2A rights? 
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Yeah, all the ones that voted for a loosertarian or did not vote at all, at least 3%. Give me a break Warp. Yes, & Romeny would have been better than Obama. SC judges & DOJ appointees, yeah, much better. Not to mention taxes, regulations & the economy but that is another thread.
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01-10-2013, 13:37
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Originally Posted by fredj338
Sure, if you voted for anyone but Romeny, like it or not, you voted for Obama, might as well voted for him directly. Fact.
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I wish people could be smarter than this.
A vote for Obama is a vote for Obama
A vote for Romney is a vote for Romney.
A vote for Johnson is a vote for Johnson.
It's really quite simple.
I am also sad to hear that you are so proud to vote for somebody who supports, through his very actions, assault weapons bans.
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01-10-2013, 13:38
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Originally Posted by Lugi
Penetrate bone....I'm sure you'll find that out first hand, went that 23 KA.................................BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMS!!!
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Your a little out of date on that, current Glock .40 barrels
have the same chamber support as the other calibers.
No KB's unless you double load ammo or cause bullet setback
by rechambering the same round over & over.
Glock updated them a few years ago. I have both so I know. Here's mine
The older design on the left and current 2009 next to LW aftermarket below.
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01-10-2013, 16:57
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I voted for Romney, but I was badly outnumbered here in VT.
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01-10-2013, 17:22
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Hey Hey
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Originally Posted by clarkz71
Your a little out of date on that, current Glock .40 barrels
have the same chamber support as the other calibers.
No KB's unless you double load ammo or cause bullet setback
by rechambering the same round over & over.
Glock updated them a few years ago. I have both so I know. Here's mine
The older design on the left and current 2009 next to LW aftermarket below.

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Hey tough guy......I was playing! 
I love glocks.......love em!!!!
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01-10-2013, 17:36
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I'm starting to think a G23, a Lone Wolf .357 Sig bbl & a Lone Wolf 9mm bbl make a lot of sence! 
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01-10-2013, 17:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Warp
I wish people could be smarter than this.
A vote for Obama is a vote for Obama
A vote for Romney is a vote for Romney.
A vote for Johnson is a vote for Johnson.
It's really quite simple.
I am also sad to hear that you are so proud to vote for somebody who supports, through his very actions, assault weapons bans. 
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Geeze, your logic is so warped. A vote for anyone BUT Romney was a vote for Obama. That is pretty clear. If you don't get that, then you really are out there with your head in the sand my friend. There were only so many votes to go around. So everyone not for Romenty WAS for Obama. You have to take responsibilty for yorr actions. It's what is wrong w/ the country today, the not my fault syndrom.
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I voted for Romney, but I was badly outnumbered here in VT
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Same here in Kalif. It doesn't matter how I voted here. Obama could have won here if he was a convicted child molester. Yes voters here are that stupid. Just look at our reps: Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, fricking J. Brown as gov again! Doomed!
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01-10-2013, 18:02
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if they take CA's approach, current owners will be grandfarthered in....
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01-10-2013, 18:07
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Originally Posted by fredj338
Geeze, your logic is so warped. A vote for anyone BUT Romney was a vote for Obama. That is pretty clear. If you don't get that, then you really are out there with your head in the sand my friend. There were only so many votes to go around. So everyone not for Romenty WAS for Obama. You have to take responsibilty for yorr actions. It's what is wrong w/ the country today, the not my fault syndrom.
Same here in Kalif. It doesn't matter how I voted here. Obama could have won here if he was a convicted child molester. Yes voters here are that stupid. Just look at our reps: Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, fricking J. Brown as gov again! Doomed!
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In that case, a vote for anyone but Obama was a vote for Romney.
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01-10-2013, 18:19
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Originally Posted by writwing
Are you assuming that they wont ban possession of hi caps?
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Well, yes. Even Feinstein's wet dream isn't outright banning them entirely, just the transfer of them.
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01-10-2013, 18:27
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Originally Posted by cowboy1964
Well, yes. Even Feinstein's wet dream isn't outright banning them entirely, just the transfer of them.
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Yes, IT IS
An outright ban, mr and mrs American, turn them all in
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01-10-2013, 21:19
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All liberals want a total ban. If they could & not die trying, they would. Look at ANY country @ any point in hsitory upto current times, you can not run roughshod over an armed population. Liberals fear gun owners because we stand in their way of their utopian society. The 2A has never been about hunting, but as long as they can split hunter apart from other gun owners, they will win. You don't like the AR or Glock, you only bird hunt, fine, but don't be fooled. A $10,000 Per***i O/U, sawed off,, makes a devistating criminal weapon.
So when all the "bad guns" are outlawed & crime is still running rampant, they'll come after your bird gun or deer rifle. After all, a scoped sighted deer rifle is a "sniper weapon" right? No, no further compromise. You don't compromise w/ rabid dogs or power hungry politicians. Join the NRA, they are not perfect but it's about all we ahve. VOTE, but vote smart. When it's on the line, a few votes may matter & throwing them away for candidates that have no chance of winning is just that, throwing it away.
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In that case, a vote for anyone but Obama was a vote for Romney.
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No Warp, I can tell you are a libertarian, you just don't do math well. If Romney needed 1000 votes to win & 1000 people voted for X-other candidate, then it was a vote for Obama. So simple even a liberal can understand that math. That is why they hate when they get a serious greenparty candidate running, it waters down their guys vote. It's how we got Clinton when Pero ran. The diff, Pero actually had a slim chance to win early on. Not so for Paul or any other candidate last Nov. It was Romney or Obama, clear choice, any other vote was a vote for Obama.
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01-10-2013, 21:52
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You can't argue with Fred. Other than his hate on Tightgroup powder, I find the guy right on everything else.
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01-10-2013, 22:30
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Originally Posted by fredj338
All liberals want a total ban. If they could & not die trying, they would. Look at ANY country @ any point in hsitory upto current times, you can not run roughshod over an armed population. Liberals fear gun owners because we stand in their way of their utopian society. The 2A has never been about hunting, but as long as they can split hunter apart from other gun owners, they will win. You don't like the AR or Glock, you only bird hunt, fine, but don't be fooled. A $10,000 Per***i O/U, sawed off,, makes a devistating criminal weapon.
So when all the "bad guns" are outlawed & crime is still running rampant, they'll come after your bird gun or deer rifle. After all, a scoped sighted deer rifle is a "sniper weapon" right? No, no further compromise. You don't compromise w/ rabid dogs or power hungry politicians. Join the NRA, they are not perfect but it's about all we ahve. VOTE, but vote smart. When it's on the line, a few votes may matter & throwing them away for candidates that have no chance of winning is just that, throwing it away.
No Warp, I can tell you are a libertarian, you just don't do math well. If Romney needed 1000 votes to win & 1000 people voted for X-other candidate, then it was a vote for Obama. So simple even a liberal can understand that math. That is why they hate when they get a serious greenparty candidate running, it waters down their guys vote. It's how we got Clinton when Pero ran. The diff, Pero actually had a slim chance to win early on. Not so for Paul or any other candidate last Nov. It was Romney or Obama, clear choice, any other vote was a vote for Obama.
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Too bad I was never going to vote for Romney anyway.
I'm not sure how, after everything you just said, you can so fervently support voting for the only man of the finalists that actually had an AWB in his past.
The lesser of two evils is still evil
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01-11-2013, 09:00
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So, who will the GOP put up against Hillary in 2016! HC will win!
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