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Old 05-14-2014, 08:41   #1
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Setting up a G20SF for Hunting

I bought a slightly used G20SF a couple of months ago and have fallen in love with the 10mm round. It has a KKM 4.6" barrel, BT guide rod w/22lb ISMI spring and Heinie sights (front tritium only).

I got an unbelievable deal on a new G20SF frame and slide this week and am waiting for them to be delivered. I've already ordered a KKM barrel cut to exactly 5". The 6" barrel is just too long for my use. The purpose for this one is hunting and testing handloads. I am considering Dawson Precision sights. I hunt deer and hogs and they often come into my stand area right at dark, so I need sights that are visible in lower light conditions.

Any suggestions for setting up this new G20SF for hunting? Other sight options?
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Old 05-14-2014, 09:03   #2
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Truglo TFO's are excellent for varied light conditions. Tritium helps in the dark & the fiber optic helps even in low light conditions. I have these on my Gen3 G20 & Gen4 G17.

I have not been able to go hunting with mine, but that was the reason I purchased it.
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Old 05-14-2014, 09:27   #3
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Do regular fiber optic sights show up okay under low light conditions? I'm not a fan of the TFO's, personally, but glad they are working well for you.
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Old 05-14-2014, 09:34   #4
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I too have Truglo TFO's on all my Glocks. The Green/Yellow seem to work in all light for me, the color combination means there is no doubt where the front sight is, even in pitch black, not that this would be a factor in a hunting situation.

In my experience, regular FO do help, even in lower light.
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Old 05-14-2014, 16:42   #5
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I would recommended a "25 cent" trigger job at the minimum and possibly a 3.5 connector
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Old 05-16-2014, 14:33   #6
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I personally would NOT go with TFO's (many like them, I do not) as they cut down on effective sight radius. They do not have an adjustable version, either, if that matters to you.

I have been eyeing the Dawson Precision Perfect Impact Fixed Competition sights (FO front and plain black rear, not adjustable) but since I just mounted my Burris Fastfire to my G20 so I will try that out before I go to irons again.
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Old 05-16-2014, 15:34   #7
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Setting up a G20SF for Hunting

So far so good. I got everything in and put it all together this afternoon. Sights are next. I ran 80 rounds through her this afternoon with 100% reliable feeding and excellent accuracy. I'm very pleased so far. The 5" barrel doesn't stick out too much.

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Old 05-16-2014, 16:18   #8
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The five inch barrel is a nice touch.
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Old 05-26-2014, 07:14   #9
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I've got TFOs on my carry piece and thought about them for the G20 but I wasn't sure how much of a deer would be covered but the front sight. Any hunters have experience with the sight picture of TFOs on a deer at 50 yards or less?
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Old 05-31-2014, 07:19   #10
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I have a number of glock 10's and am a 5-day a week woodsman and hunter. I have tried all above mentioned sightes including adjustable a on my longslide. Despite lots of options, I go back to my gen 3 non-sf model with basic Trigicons. Front blade is thin enough for precision work. I have a storm lake barrel (factory length) and took a nice deer with it this year. Handloads, 40 yards, one shot, evening light. Set up worked great.
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Old 05-31-2014, 21:56   #11
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I would recommended a "25 cent" trigger job at the minimum and possibly a 3.5 connector
I tried the 3.5 on my G20 but the stock connectors crisp break has me shooting better than a 3.5 lighter but mushier break.
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Old 06-02-2014, 22:32   #12
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Did my G20SF as a straight out hunting rig. Very accurate out to 75 yards. Haven't tried it any farther then that but will group inside 3-4" consistently at that distance off a bench rest. Shoots better then I can hold it. Tried some different optics and liked the red dot the best for accuracy and shootability for me.

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Advantage Tactical sights for under red dot

Reload my own and get some real nice groups with 165gr Gold Dots and 180gr XTP's loaded pretty hot. 155gr XTP's seemed to scatter when pushed hard.

Many lazy sundays are spent at the range shootin and tweakin this gun........so much fun playing with it.......maybe this year I'll actually hunt with it......

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Old 06-03-2014, 19:49   #13
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I bought my G20 looking forward to the hunt and being in the woods. Haven't made it yet.
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Old 06-05-2014, 20:14   #14
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Burris FastFire

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I personally would NOT go with TFO's (many like them, I do not) as they cut down on effective sight radius. They do not have an adjustable version, either, if that matters to you.

I have been eyeing the Dawson Precision Perfect Impact Fixed Competition sights (FO front and plain black rear, not adjustable) but since I just mounted my Burris Fastfire to my G20 so I will try that out before I go to irons again.
How is the Fastfire holding up?
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Old 06-05-2014, 20:24   #15
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How is the Fastfire holding up?
I've out close to 150 rounds of 1250fps 180gr loads through it and another 50-75 target level loads since I mounted he red dot. It's been 100% with not even a slight ahift in POI or mount shift.

It was on my .44 mag and 22lr before this, too.

I have total confidence in it.

Hopefully I'll be putting another couple hundred rounds of hot stuff through it this weekend and I'll report back into thread here on the 10-Ring.
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Old 06-13-2014, 03:40   #16
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Did my G20SF as a straight out hunting rig. Very accurate out to 75 yards. Haven't tried it any farther then that but will group inside 3-4" consistently at that distance off a bench rest. Shoots better then I can hold it. Tried some different optics and liked the red dot the best for accuracy and shootability for me.

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Scope422, Nice Pistol!
That ought to hunt well!
I have a vortex mounted on a carver hunter mount for my G20.
I am using stock Glock barrel. Do you have a sense of how much accuracy improved with your 5 Inch barrel over the standard Glock barrel?

I have been shooting 180's (mostly xtp's) at max loads.
Groups at 25 yards are virtually 1 hole, but they really start to open up at 50 yards. Odd thing is the groups are about the same at 100 as at 50.

I want to improve the accuracy out to 50 yards for deer hunting this fall. I'm thinking the next step is to get a 5 or 6" barrel. Am using steel guide rod and 22# spring wt. Am going to try my aimpoint 2MOA sight vs the Vortex which is 4MOA dot.

Any input or opinions welcome!
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Yes. leeward ... It's not the LENGTH of an aftermarket barrel that will benefit you -accuracy-wise .... It's the fit.

A KKM will stop right in and STLL provide much better accuracy than the stick barrel ( if you're goof enough to realize that accuracy) but a Barsto that requires a little filing / fitting will be substantially more accurate.

Go for it!
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Old 06-16-2014, 21:19   #18
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I would like to add a micro red dot to my glock 20 sf maybe I will try to find a spare slide for it
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Old 06-17-2014, 19:57   #19
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Scope422, Nice Pistol!
That ought to hunt well!
I have a vortex mounted on a carver hunter mount for my G20.
I am using stock Glock barrel. Do you have a sense of how much accuracy improved with your 5 Inch barrel over the standard Glock barrel?

I have been shooting 180's (mostly xtp's) at max loads.
Groups at 25 yards are virtually 1 hole, but they really start to open up at 50 yards. Odd thing is the groups are about the same at 100 as at 50.

I want to improve the accuracy out to 50 yards for deer hunting this fall. I'm thinking the next step is to get a 5 or 6" barrel. Am using steel guide rod and 22# spring wt. Am going to try my aimpoint 2MOA sight vs the Vortex which is 4MOA dot.

Any input or opinions welcome!
Honestly I never shot it with the stock barrel except for when I bought the gun new and had no mods done on it yet. The barrel was the first thing I bought and I never shot the stock barrel again. The red dot definitely gave me the biggest jump in accuracy. I tried the stock sights and then the Advantage Tactical sights next but still was not happy with the accuracy. The Advantage sights were an improvement but it was a pain in the neck to be lining up front and rear sights just right for good accuracy. The red dot is just up and put the dot where you want it. For a target that's moving, I feel that's just a lot easier. You pretty much center the dot in the scope well enough without even thinking about it. The next great leap in accuracy for me was the competition trigger spring kit I put in. I can't remember where I got it but it came in a kit with the 3.5 connector and like 3 springs. Think I might have even gotten that on Ebay. This decreased the trigger pull significantly and made it nice and crisp. I was amazed how much this improved my groups. I knew it would help but it blew me away how my groups shrunk in half after that. Totally ruins the gun for any kind of self defense weapon cause it does lighten the trigger pull a lot but when your aiming it takes so much less force to fire the round and the gun moves very little while squeezing the trigger. Like a rifle. Have all the stock springs for when I want to put them back to normal also. Now I'm shooting this off a bench rest only and I do have a bar around my treestand to shoot off of as well. I'm not a very good shot with a handgun freehand. Also, the right load is key too. Push the lighter bullets too fast, the groups start opening up.
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Scope 422, Thank you for the info, I am waiting for Carver to get the black aimpoint rings in as they are out, in the interim I have ordered a lighter weight connector.
My load is 180 gr xtp with AA9. I need to get the aimpoint mounted and start fine tuning the load.
hopefully the mounts will be in soon.
I have a bar around my tree stand too (its a climber stand) theat I use for a rest. Kind of a pain during bow season but it works
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