[mgs]

Originally Posted by IndianaMatt

I grew up with the viruses, bluescreens, and disposable hardware of PC. This year, I had enough and I joined the cult of Apple with a new MacBook Pro.

What a machine! I cannot see how I will ever go back. And the Apple store was the exact opposite of going to Best Buy: a great retail experience; no pressure; no noise; no warranties to buy - in an out in literally 15 minutes.

Look at my baby:



[not my pic tho]

And you paid through the nose! They all have their problems. I work on and with both daily. You drank the Kool Aid man.

[NMGlocker]

Originally Posted by FLIPPER 348

I have noted over the years that Mac users are happier than PC users.

Proof that ignorance is bliss.






C'mon man... you set that one up on a tee for me. There's no way I wasn't going to take a swing.

[JuneyBooney]

Originally Posted by Dennis in MA

Fanboy! LOL

Enjoy. Go online and find/learn the shortcuts and the "ways" Mac does stuff vs. PC. The good news is every 4 years you don't have to re-learn a new OS when MS decides to completely redesign Windows.

I would agree. I bought a new pc with windows 8 and I absolutely hate it. XP was much better. I had an Ibook years ago...should have stuck with Mac.

[NMGlocker]

Originally Posted by JuneyBooney

I would agree. I bought a new pc with windows 8 and I absolutely hate it. XP was much better. I had an Ibook years ago...should have stuck with Mac.

I really don't understand why everyone's stressing over Win8.
Other than the slide out menu bars in the screen corners and the start screen instead of a start button/program tree it's identical to Win7.

Just pin your favorite programs to the start screen and/or the quick launch bar on the desktop and you're off to the races.

That's the way I ran XP and Win7, so Win8 took me all of 15 minutes to learn and customize.

[jasonvp]

Originally Posted by sputnik767

I always maintain that mac users are only happy because they jumped from junky PCs to high-end and high priced macs

I maintain that you're not always right about that, either. Some of us were and are happy because of the operating system, not just the hardware.

jas

[JuneyBooney]

Originally Posted by NMGlocker

I really don't understand why everyone's stressing over Win8.
Other than the slide out menu bars in the screen corners and the start screen instead of a start button/program tree it's identical to Win7.

Just pin your favorite programs to the start screen and/or the quick launch bar on the desktop and you're off to the races.

That's the way I ran XP and Win7, so Win8 took me all of 15 minutes to learn and customize.

I had windows xp and loved it. I have corneal ectasia and that makes ork difficult for me so now I have to actually think about this system..so i hate it. I liked using the old stuff..the new stuff is for notebooks and phones..I am using it for lawsuits..etc. So how do I get used to this real fast? Do you have any idea if my old Wordperfect 10 will work on windows 8 or which version do I have to buy? Thanks

[686Owner]

Originally Posted by sputnik767

Meh, I use both and my dad uses PCs only. We are both happy. Of course I built his PCs as well as mine using high-end components. I always maintain that mac users are only happy because they jumped from junky PCs to high-end and high priced macs, and you get what you pay for no matter what you decide to go with.

I jumped from desktop PCs that I built myself to a MacBook Pro, and I'm pretty happy. My next laptop purchase will probably be another Apple computer. I'm a bit concerned with the Retina display MBP not allowing you to update the RAM, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

[Dandapani]

Been running Linux (Fedora and now Fuduntu) on commodity PC hardware for years with no problems, virus, etc. No need for expensive MAC hardware. The best thing Bill Gates did was to create a bloated, hardware hungry OS so that hardware manufacturers had to create cheap, powerful machines for it to run on. Drop Linux on this hardware and you have the best environment of them all for mucho cheap.

[NMGlocker]

Originally Posted by JuneyBooney

I had windows xp and loved it. I have corneal ectasia and that makes ork difficult for me so now I have to actually think about this system..so i hate it. I liked using the old stuff..the new stuff is for notebooks and phones..I am using it for lawsuits..etc. So how do I get used to this real fast? Do you have any idea if my old Wordperfect 10 will work on windows 8 or which version do I have to buy? Thanks

Wordperfect? I haven't used Wordperfect since the 486 days.
Wow, you are a Luddite.

[.264 magnum]

Originally Posted by sputnik767

Meh, I use both and my dad uses PCs only. We are both happy. Of course I built his PCs as well as mine using high-end components. I always maintain that mac users are only happy because they jumped from junky PCs to high-end and high priced macs, and you get what you pay for no matter what you decide to go with.

It stands to reason that many Mac adopters moved from POS PCs.

I didn't. The PCs I've owned and the PCs I still own while not on the world class rodded gamer level are none the less well RAM'd, HDD'd, de-fragged regularly, virus protected, fire-walled and most importantly not ancient or abused.

[LL6]

Originally Posted by NMGlocker

Wordperfect? I haven't used Wordperfect since the 486 days.
Wow, you are a Luddite.

You are awfully quick to call names when he mentions why he is resisting change.

Originally Posted by JuneyBooney

I had windows xp and loved it. I have corneal ectasia and that makes ork difficult for me so now I have to actually think about this system..so i hate it. I liked using the old stuff..the new stuff is for notebooks and phones..I am using it for lawsuits..etc. So how do I get used to this real fast? Do you have any idea if my old Wordperfect 10 will work on windows 8 or which version do I have to buy? Thanks

After a quick Google it looks like Corel's WordPerfect X6 is their latest release. Maybe email them about compatibility with Win 8 or DL their trial of X6.

[FPS]

Originally Posted by NMGlocker

Wordperfect? I haven't used Wordperfect since the 486 days.
Wow, you are a Luddite.

How about some Lotus123 or a Novel Server.

.

[JuneyBooney]

Originally Posted by NMGlocker

Wordperfect? I haven't used Wordperfect since the 486 days.
Wow, you are a Luddite.

Law offices and educators have used wpd for many years. DOJ uses wpd. So what do you suggest Mr perfect to use for legal documents etc? Hmmmm...

[JuneyBooney]

Originally Posted by LL6

You are awfully quick to call names when he mentions why he is resisting change.


After a quick Google it looks like Corel's WordPerfect X6 is their latest release. Maybe email them about compatibility with Win 8 or DL their trial of X6.

Thanks for the suggestion. I wrote up some documents the other night right before the crash and I have to find the right wpd to load on this to view them. I appreciate your thoughtful input.

[boomhower]

I converted around six months ago. I started with Apple when the iPad 2 was released. I love it so much I bought an iPhone 4S when they were released. A few months ago my Dell started going south and I replaced it with a refurbed Macbook Pro. I absolutely love it. I did replace the HD with an SSD and upped the ram to 8GBs. The way the whole ecosystem is integrated is wonderful. Added an Apple TV and use Airplay all the time. There is certainly a premium to it but it's more than just for the logo. The build quality of this thing is light years ahead of most cheapo plastic Windows machines. Thinkpads have good build quality but other than that it's severely lacking. Again for me, it's the ecosystem. Everything just works so well together it's wonderful.

I'm not a Windows hater, far from it. Windows 7 was a wonderful OS. I haven't messed with Windows 8 at all so I can't comment there. Windows Phone looks very nice and everyone I know who uses one loves it. The surface tablet also looks good. If they can get devolpers on board that would be a good ecosystem as well. With Skydrive they have the cloud backbone there as well.

What it boils down to is use what you prefer. Neither is superior to the other, just different.

[certifiedfunds]

Originally Posted by NMGlocker

Wordperfect? I haven't used Wordperfect since the 486 days.
Wow, you are a Luddite.

I believe it is common in legal profession


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[certifiedfunds]

Originally Posted by Landmonster

Just understand you're paying a hefty surcharge because you're a computer noob.

Some of you folks need to realize that there are lots of people who need to use computers to perform tasks and have no interest in making the inner workings of a computer or OS a 2nd job or hobby.

Computers are here to serve us, not the other way around


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[syntaxerrorsix]

Originally Posted by certifiedfunds

Some of you folks need to realize that there are lots of people who need to use computers to perform tasks and have no interest in making the inner workings of a computer or OS a 2nd job or hobby.

Computers are here to serve us, not the other way around


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Some people need to understand that when comparing platforms and machines it helps to have experience with comparable hardware. There is very little difference save for the fact that Apple does not build econo-boxes but you can get one in PC flavor.

[gwalchmai]

Originally Posted by certifiedfunds

Some of you folks need to realize that there are lots of people who need to use computers to perform tasks and have no interest in making the inner workings of a computer or OS a 2nd job or hobby.

Just asking, CF, what can Macs do that Windows PCs can't? i.e., what "need to use" software is only available for Macs?

[douggmc]

Originally Posted by sputnik767

Haha, .... In fact, go ahead and install just windows on your mac. The reality is, the only thing that separates a mac and an equally equipped PC is the OS.

... and the OS difference is the ENTIRE point of it. The folks on here that say they use the same "shipsets", etc and therefore are not "worth the price" vs Windows don't seem to get this. It is almost an apples vs oranges comparison. Why folks want to do this in some pissing match manner is always beyond me. I use both. They both have pros and cons. Fwiw and for whatever reason though, I reach for my apple devices first nowadays.

You aren't paying for the hardware so much, but rather the OS and tight integration of it with the hardware (and the rest of the Apple ecosystem).




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[certifiedfunds]

Originally Posted by syntaxerrorsix

Some people need to understand that when comparing platforms and machines it helps to have experience with comparable hardware. There is very little difference save for the fact that Apple does not build econo-boxes but you can get one in PC flavor.

That doesn't change my point.


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[certifiedfunds]

Originally Posted by gwalchmai

Just asking, CF, what can Macs do that Windows PCs can't? i.e., what "need to use" software is only available for Macs?

Nothing. Mac just does what most people do with computers, better. Easier. More intuitively. Form factor matters too.

It is however great at document handling, comes with a nice package of easy to use software, still requires no antivirus/malware precautions, to mention a few. Also the multitouch trackpad is a much bigger differentiator than most people give it credit for. Much better displays as a rule, which matters bc that's what you stare at.

My company issues me a craptastic black plastic Dell. I spent my own money on an 11MBA, parallels and a Win7 license to use for work.


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[certifiedfunds]

Who sells machines that are "equally equipped" to the MacBook Air, 13 & 15" MBPS retinas, or iMac or Mac mini?

I honestly haven't seen them.


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[686Owner]

Originally Posted by gwalchmai

Just asking, CF, what can Macs do that Windows PCs can't? i.e., what "need to use" software is only available for Macs?

I can answer for me...

Nothing that I "need" to use, but iTunes seems to work better on a Mac than a PC. Messages allows to send iMessages from my computer. My calendar, notes, and reminders all sync without any need for me to think about it or use a separate service. iPhoto uses iCloud to import my wife and I's latest photos from my phone without the need to even plug in. My contacts sync to and from my phone faster than I can even open the app to look for them. App store means when I buy another Mac, or if I wipe this one, all I have to do is sign in and tap "download all purchases" and all of my apps will download and install. Safari bookmarks, reading list and even open tabs all sync to and from my iPhone as well.

[certifiedfunds]

Originally Posted by 686Owner

I can answer for me...

Nothing that I "need" to use, but iTunes seems to work better on a Mac than a PC. Messages allows to send iMessages from my computer. My calendar, notes, and reminders all sync without any need for me to think about it or use a separate service. iPhoto uses iCloud to import my wife and I's latest photos from my phone without the need to even plug in. My contacts sync to and from my phone faster than I can even open the app to look for them. App store means when I buy another Mac, or if I wipe this one, all I have to do is sign in and tap "download all purchases" and all of my apps will download and install. Safari bookmarks, reading list and even open tabs all sync to and from my iPhone as well.

Yeah. All that too

It's just a better overall user experience. Some folks don't value that and that's ok.


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