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Old 12-09-2012, 18:43   #151
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I will say this. The 1911 and the Glock are my two favorite pistol platforms. I've got one or the other, in a wide variety of makes, models and calibers, on my hip every single day.


I don't understand why so many people on both sides act like the two platforms are mutually exclusive. I have a couple of 1911s and also have a S&W Shield and yet a black hole has not formed in my apartment. I'm sure that the CZ P-07 that I am hopefully picking up tomorrow will also peacefully exist with my 1911s.
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I don't understand why so many people on both sides act like the two platforms are mutually exclusive. I have a couple of 1911s and also have a S&W Shield and yet a black hole has not formed in my apartment. I'm sure that the CZ P-07 that I am hopefully picking up tomorrow will also peacefully exist with my 1911s.
Congrats on the CZ. You'll love it.
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Old 12-09-2012, 19:23   #153
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To the OP....who I'm sure is probably long gone and having a good laugh....

The moment you mentioned Yeager your post lost any and all credibility among 1911 fans and honestly anyone who knows anything about firearms in general.

Yeager has no ability to be objective and is a flat out 1911 hater no matter what he want's to say. His "credentials" are sketchy at best. I'd put more stock in Nutnfancy than I would Yeager and that's saying quite a lot.

Yeager is a bomb thrower. He likes attention for the sake of attention.

He reminds me of Dean Speir...much like Yeager....Speir talked out of both sides of his mouth. Dean hated Glocks and pretty much said they might explode. He spun and spun and spun and on one hand tried to pretend he was okay with them(because he owned a few) while on the other trashing them. You can't have it both ways. Google that name and see if it doesn't get your blood boiling about Glocks. Dean and I both got banned from a high profile forum nearly 10 years ago when I called him out on his BS. I'm not proud of that...but it happened.

It's ignorant comments made by someone truly ignorant to the platform..Dean is and was ignorant about Glocks...same as Yeager is about 1911's. Neither have any ability to be objective. That's what any gun forum is supposed to be about.....objectivity. Everyone has an opinion...God knows I do and my opinion is just that...opinion....NOT FACT.

I've been guilty of being biased. But as time has gone on and as I've gotten older and had the opportunity to shoot/own many of the major brand handguns on the market....I've become more objective. Pick your poison in terms of a handgun. No matter what you pick will be a trade off one way or another. The important part is that you choose something that you're comfortable with and shoot well and not concern yourself with all the nitpicking.

At one time I owned both Glocks and 1911's....oh my God!! How's that possible?! Maybe because they're both a viable option? What works for you is what matters.

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Old 12-09-2012, 19:55   #154
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To the OP....who I'm sure is probably long gone and having a good laugh....

The moment you mentioned Yeager your post lost any and all credibility among 1911 fans and honestly anyone who knows anything about firearms in general.

Yeager has no ability to be objective and is a flat out 1911 hater no matter what he want's to say. His "credentials" are sketchy at best. I'd put more stock in Nutnfancy than I would Yeager and that's saying quite a lot.

Yeager is a bomb thrower. He likes attention for the sake of attention.

He reminds me of Dean Speir...much like Yeager....Speir talked out of both sides of his mouth. Dean hated Glocks and pretty much said they might explode. He spun and spun and spun and on one hand tried to pretend he was okay with them(because he owned a few) while on the other trashing them. You can't have it both ways. Google that name and see if it doesn't get your blood boiling about Glocks. Dean and I both got banned from a high profile forum nearly 10 years ago when I called him out on his BS. I'm not proud of that...but it happened.

It's ignorant comments made by someone truly ignorant to the platform..Dean is and was ignorant about Glocks...same as Yeager is about 1911's. Neither have any ability to be objective. That's what any gun forum is supposed to be about.....objectivity. Everyone has an opinion...God knows I do and my opinion is just that...opinion....NOT FACT.

I've been guilty of being biased. But as time has gone on and as I've gotten older and had the opportunity to shoot/own many of the major brand handguns on the market....I've become more objective. Pick your poison in terms of a handgun. No matter what you pick will be a trade off one way or another. The important part is that you choose something that you're comfortable with and shoot well and not concern yourself with all the nitpicking.

At one time I owned both Glocks and 1911's....oh my God!! How's that possible?! Maybe because they're both a viable option? What works for you is what matters.
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I don't hate Yeager even though he spews opinion more than fact. The reality is that we are here talking about him or reading about him and he is getting free advertising so long as he creates a stir on youtube GT and other sights.

A real fighter would say something like a gun is a tool and as long as it works, is tough, effective, I dont care which one I have.

1911's are good and I think that the majority of issues are user related in one way or another. I have owned a few low-mid range 1911's, and did have problems with the first one I bought. I am certain that the problems were the user. I don't have one now because I just wouldn't use it.

To the OP, if you are serious about a 1911 watch this video.

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The funny thing about that test is that Paras are supposed to be crap.

That's why I take everything with a grain of salt.
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The funny thing about that test is that Paras are supposed to be crap.

That's why I take everything with a grain of salt.

They are. That's why no top shelf 'smith will touch one.
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The funny thing about that test is that Paras are supposed to be crap.

That's why I take everything with a grain of salt.
I woudn't say they're crap, but I certainly put them below average.

The Taurus is crap.
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Hell, I've never even heard of Recoil magazine. Maybe there's a reason for that.

Hell, I've never heard of this "Yeager" that everyone is alluding to!!!!!


The ONLY "Yeager" that I have ever heard of, is CHUCK!!!!!
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Hell, I've never heard of this "Yeager" that everyone is alluding to!!!!!


The ONLY "Yeager" that I have ever heard of, is CHUCK!!!!!
What about that stuff in the green bottle?

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Wow, seven pages and 160+ replies

Do you think coleslaw touched a nerve?



...where the hell is 'slaw anyway?
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:36   #162
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let me see.....

logic states that the military bought a pistol then, kept that pistol around for over 100 YEARS sending it to EVERY war the USA has been in since 1911 because it is a POS......

10s of THOUSANDS of service members carried, swore by and LIVED because of this pistol but, since some dickweed from an armpit, gun store tacticool magazine says it has problems, well then surely it is a pistol not worth owning!

so everyone that feels the same, please send me your 1911's for proper "disposal". i will not discriminate based upon mfg or country of origin!
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Wow, seven pages and 160+ replies

Do you think coleslaw touched a nerve?



...where the hell is 'slaw anyway?
He's camped out at Yeager's house trying to get him to autograph his underwear.
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"Hi, I've never owned a 1911, but here's what's wrong with them." That is nearly a perfect Glock Talk post - if only you could have sad something about a CCW badge and why you hate the police....
You are so Glock Talk when..........


I like it when they say "I own xx Glocks and nothing but Glocks, and I can tell you ________ is a jam-o-matic and unreliable POS.
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If you're really interested in a 1911 you might want to consult more informed sources. Recoil magazine comes off as being by amateurs for amateurs (the pretty pictures are entertaining though). James Yeager, from what I have seen of his Youtube videos seems pretty closed minded to anything that isn't a Glock. The best thing is to try one for yourself, but it seems like you've already made up your mind without any first hand experience.
I don't dislike Yeager. He is the definitive President, CEO, and founding father of Glock Fan boys International. I got a kick out of his 1000 round torture test of a Glock. Every time the Glock would jam or FTF, they blamed the ammo. Funny stuff. Apparently, Yeager feels he can have it both ways, and that's okay.

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Anyone see a resemblance in persona? Now if we can get Yeager in some tights......

That Iraq thing really changed Yeager.
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Sounds like you need to gain some real world knowledge before posting. Why post when you're obviously clueless of the subject matter?

Yeager is a moron and I've sent him some choice words on a few occasions.
Instead of being a jerk why don't you convince him otherwise? If the 1911 is so good as you think it is it shouldn't be hard! I will agree that before judging something you need to look to multiple sources and even try it for yourself. Maybe lets get a pros and cons of the 1911 going to educate the misinformed?


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Instead of being a jerk why don't you convince him otherwise? If the 1911 is so good as you think it is it shouldn't be hard! I will agree that before judging something you need to look to multiple sources and even try it for yourself. Maybe lets get a pros and cons of the 1911 going to educate the misinformed?


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Instead of being misinformed, why don't you look around... start here, bac's post are #s 14 thru 24.

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show....php?t=1269683
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You are so Glock Talk when..........


I like it when they say "I own xx Glocks and nothing but Glocks, and I can tell you ________ is a jam-o-matic and unreliable POS.
Yeah, you hear that now and again over in General Glocking.

I find it funny.
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...because I am a jerk
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Instead of being a jerk why don't you convince him otherwise? If the 1911 is so good as you think it is it shouldn't be hard! I will agree that before judging something you need to look to multiple sources and even try it for yourself. Maybe lets get a pros and cons of the 1911 going to educate the misinformed?


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...because I am a jerk

Seriously, I'm not going to waste my time with someone who posts that sort of nonsense without any knowledge.

He did it simply to get a reaction and he got his wish.

If someone asks an intelligent question or asks my opinion on something, I'm always glad to help.
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