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Old 12-05-2012, 08:59   #101
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I think we need Jugs. This seems to be the only way of settling it.

Or TBO vs Tantrix in a steel cage death match.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:13   #102
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Steve is also the greatest musician that ever lived. Just ask him!
(I have some friends that played on his record....)
Steven Segal - YouTube


Now you've done it.

I've tried to stay completely disinterested......or at least nonpartisan in this joke of a paring, but showing this has made up my mind for sure.

Yeah, for so'.

Yep, betcha by golly wow.

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By all means, eh?
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:15   #103
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i have to appreciate segal's "no witnesses" clause in this situation, it shows he understands that nobody really gives a **** and shouldn't be forced to watch such a debacle.

this is the testosterone equivalent of boy george and george michael meeting in the parking lot of a gay bar to trade blows.
Yeah, if those gays were formerly world class martial artists...




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Old 12-05-2012, 09:34   #104
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That's usually how it happens. It's also how you can tell if someone is experienced in fighting. Only someone blowing hot air would claim to be able to plant a knee to the head of anyone that tried a take down on them.

But, this is GNG...anything is possible.
Ok, you don't have to believe my story, but I have seen it happen in two pro fights. Here's a link to the video of the first one I could find. http://kojunkie.com/josh-koscheck-vs...ght-video.html Skip to 16 minutes and see for yourself.

I have heard that bad form is what makes you vulnerable to taking a knee to the head when you shoot in. I'm no expert so maybe you could clarify that for me.

I know I have seen it in a more recent fight as well.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:58   #105
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Anyway, Segal's principe martial art is Hapkido...
Aikido, but with some other experience
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Ok, you don't have to believe my story, but I have seen it happen in two pro fights. Here's a link to the video of the first one I could find. http://kojunkie.com/josh-koscheck-vs...ght-video.html Skip to 16 minutes and see for yourself.

I have heard that bad form is what makes you vulnerable to taking a knee to the head when you shoot in. I'm no expert so maybe you could clarify that for me.

I know I have seen it in a more recent fight as well.
No, I believe it...lots of people take knees to the face unexpectedly like that. And yes, bad form is sort of right. If you're getting knees to the face/head when going in for take-downs, you're doing something wrong...the person on the other end shouldn't even have enough time to react with a knee.


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Oh there's more you could add to that list.

Hell, I'm retired now but if they'd even show up I'd take those bouts...consecutively, without pay.

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Old 12-05-2012, 10:18   #107
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I seems pretty apparent to me that Segal was just spouting face saving rhetoric. He knows they would never get in a fight and that Couture was just kidding around.

On the other hand, this thread is pretty funny. Pretty much turned into a wank measuring contest.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:37   #110
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No, I believe it...lots of people take knees to the face unexpectedly like that. And yes, bad form is sort of right. If you're getting knees to the face/head when going in for take-downs, you're doing something wrong...the person on the other end shouldn't even have enough time to react with a knee.



Broad statement, really depends on the level of the individuals involved. I wrestled D1, wasn't great, but could defend against takedowns.
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Broad statement, really depends on the level of the individuals involved. I wrestled D1, wasn't great, but could defend against takedowns.
The reason I say "shouldn't have enough time to react with knee" is, not getting taken down is priority over trying to land a knee. The knee likely isn't going to KO them unless you happen to catch them squarely on the chin.

The likely outcome is, you throw that knee up (odds are you're going to miss) then you're standing on 1 leg. Next thing is obvious...you're going to the ground.

I had to learn this the hard way coming from Muay Thai going against wrestlers/grapplers. No matter how much you want to throw that knee as soon as you suspect a take-down, knowing how to sprawl in an instant, clinch, then throw knees will do you much better.

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The reason I say "shouldn't have enough time to react with knee" is, not getting taken down is priority over trying to land a knee. The knee likely isn't going to KO them unless you happen to catch them squarely on the chin.

The likely outcome is, you throw that knee up (odds are you're going to miss) then you're standing on 1 leg. Next thing is obvious...you're going to the ground.

I had to learn this the hard way coming from Muay Thai going against wrestlers/grapplers. No matter how much you want to throw that knee as soon as you suspect a take-down, knowing how to sprawl in an instant, clinch, then throw knees will do you much better.
What about the double-fist James T. Kirk hammer?
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What about the double-fist James T. Kirk hammer?
Vulcan neck pinch?
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What about the double-fist James T. Kirk hammer?
I suppose that could work as well...but I'm not volunteering to try it.
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Is Segal mad because he wasn't in Expendables 2? Lol


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For a while, they were considering calling it "Expandables II" and he was in contention for a part.
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Oh it's on CUZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seems like Couture's little jokey joke really rustled Seagals jimmies!



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So it’s safe to say that Couture is not going to take Seagal up on his battle-to-the-death challenge, then, right? “Hey, it could happen organically I suppose,” Couture ended, simply.
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Sooooooooooo.....who would win??????????
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I remember a fight in November 1994, when a slow, fat, old man stunned the world when he fought the Heavy Weight Champion of the World and knocked him the **** out.

That slow, fat, old man then went on to have a promising career selling grills!

Never count out the slow, fat, old guys! They might surprise you!
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we get it dude. its more played out than the Bravia jokes....

you are starting to come off as a giant D-bag. How are you a cop? you act like a child on here sometimes. id like to see you contribute something worthwhile to the forum

im actually quite surprised that mods let this childish provocation go on for so long. we get it. according to you hes not a cop. move on.

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I have to admit watching his cop show. He's a pretty smart guy with a lot of self defense knowledge. He trains police departments in self defense and shooting as well. I think if he wanted to he could grab a pressure point and take anyone out pretty darn quick.

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I remember a fight in November 1994, when a slow, fat, old man stunned the world when he fought the Heavy Weight Champion of the World and knocked him the **** out.

That slow, fat, old man then went on to have a promising career selling grills!

Never count out the slow, fat, old guys! They might surprise you!
That fat old man was also a trained and professional fighter.
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I have never been able to understand what "real" is in the context of MMA. I get that folks in MMA do not wear boxing gloves. Is this supposed to translate into being more real on the street because bullies in night clubs do not wear boxing gloves?

I think that people who follow the sport are tied up with this notion of what is objectively real for some reason. I don't think MMA is any more real than boxing or badmitton. It is definitely more real than NASCAR. MMA is a sport with a big following.

In my subjective world, someone who walks around with boxing gloves trying to square off on passers by or someone walking around in a speedo with pitbull tattoos and beating his chest is going to find trouble before he ever gets onto my radar.

I can't think of a situation where I would get into a fist-fight. I am clumsy, have a slow reaction time (don't think I have ever won a game of hot-hands) and part of my jawbone was reduced and weakened by surgery. What is real for me is different than what is real for a lot of other people -- if I get punched in the face it is going to hurt me badly and permanently. I stay away from drunks and aggressive people. I guess if I was in a position where I thought I was going to get hurt bad or disfigured I would have to play by those rules from the outset and take the offensive before the aggressor got done bragging about what he was going to do to me.

I think what's real in scenario presented by this thread is if Randy showed up at Segall's house unannounced and tried to kick in the door. I would say that would be real and the actions and results of what happened would be real.
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