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Old 12-04-2012, 19:46   #26
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Does "no rules" mean small joint locks are allowed? If that's the case, Randy has a whole new world of Aiki jujitsu to learn. If Segal can get a hold of Randy's wrist or hand before he, himself, gets knocked out, it will be all over.

In college I went full steam against my instructor and he just dodged and batted my attacks until he got my wrist. Then, he tossed me around for a minute before making me jump onto my head and tap out.
I was "fortunate enough" to watch my 50 yr old 5'8" Sensei in a a real "Lets not disrespect the Dojo, we'll go outside" fight agains a 26 year-old 6'4" 3rd dan.

Old age and experience definitely beat youth and skill that day, very badly
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Old 12-04-2012, 19:50   #27
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MMA is a joke! Take out a knee, or collar bone, or floating rib and it's over.
Not...

No rules against collar bone or rib strikes I'm aware of... And I've never heard of one on those injuries stopping an MMA fight.

Anyway, MMA fighters can do all that too when there are truly no rules. Plus, you didn't mention the nastiest moves-- eye gouging, fish hooking, groin strikes, hair pulling, ear ripping...

MMA is as nasty as it can be while still allowing two dudes to fight another day.

That said... Couture will be able to dominate Seagal without even hurting him... With the same ease as wrestling and pinning his little sister on the ground.
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Old 12-04-2012, 19:54   #28
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Old age and experience definitely beat youth and skill that day, very badly
I'll give Seagal his credit...he really is experienced (in his particular style of martial arts anyway) but he's so far out of his element against Couture it's ridiculous.



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That said... Couture will be able to dominate Seagal without even hurting him... With the same ease as wrestling and pinning his little sister on the ground.
Bingo. You just posted a play-by-play of how that fight would go down.
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MMA is a joke! Take out a knee, or collar bone, or floating rib and it's over.
We live and train for people like you. I can already picture working from side mount into full mount. Maybe a clock choke in side mount, now I cant decide.
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We live and train for people like you. I can already picture working from side mount into full mount. Maybe a clock choke in side mount, now I cant decide.
Nah...assuming you're in MMA, you live and train for fighting others that are doing the same thing with the intent of beating you. When you get to be my age, you'll want to avoid living in areas where it is cold and damp a good part of the year. Just sayin'
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I'll take Seagal...

He isn't unfamiliar with MMA, he certainly knows Randy Couture...so he must be bat #^%! crazy. It's hard to bet against crazy in a fight.
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Old 12-04-2012, 20:16   #32
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I hope Seagal isn't thinking of being Above The Law with this whole no witnesses thing...

If Seagal loses, could it be said that he will be Out For Justice against Randy?

Who knows? Randy might be On Deadly Ground, and find out that Seagal is Hard To Kill.

But if Randy makes sure that Seagal isn't Out Of Reach and goes Out For A Kill, then Seagal will be Half Past Dead.
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Segal is a washed up, has been bum, that never was any good.
He's a 7-dan Aikido master, the first foreigner to attain such a level and the first to operate a dojo in Japan. He's still a major celebrity in Japan - he speaks fluent Japanese and I've seen him appear occasionally on Japanese variety and talk shows. His daughter is also a famous actress there, because he's her father.

He's 60 years old, and I agree with most everyone else here that this is just silly, but to say he was never any good?? Nope.

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No rules against collar bone or rib strikes I'm aware of... And I've never heard of one on those injuries stopping an MMA fight.
youve never seen a fight ended by a rib strike? i can name a few off the top.
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Nah...assuming you're in MMA, you live and train for fighting others that are doing the same thing with the intent of beating you. When you get to be my age, you'll want to avoid living in areas where it is cold and damp a good part of the year. Just sayin'
Im in MMA to protect myself at work and off duty, to make myself better at all aspects of self defense. Not medals and competition.
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We live and train for people like you.
If MMA people weren't so predictable and sloppy, I might take them seriously.

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I can already picture working from side mount into full mount. Maybe a clock choke in side mount, now I cant decide.
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I'll bet that Segal would still outshoot Couture. I seem to recall that way back when Segal was hot on the silver screen, one of the gun mags did a feature on him and the custom guns that he owned. Somehow the name Tussey stood in my mind as one of Segal's custom gun builders.

They need to feature Segal in Expendables 3.
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He's a 7-dan Aikido master, the first foreigner to attain such a level and the first to operate a dojo in Japan. He's still a major celebrity in Japan - he speaks fluent Japanese and I've seen him appear occasionally on Japanese variety and talk shows. His daughter is also a famous actress there, because he's her father.

He's 60 years old, and I agree with most everyone else here that this is just silly, but to say he was never any good?? Nope.

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I don't think I've ever seen a Segal movie. Any good?

Never heard of the other guy. Has been?
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MMA is a joke! Take out a knee, or collar bone, or floating rib and it's over.
This is a joke right? MMA fighters are only dangerous in the octagon, is that it?
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Im in MMA to protect myself at work and off duty, to make myself better at all aspects of self defense. Not medals and competition.
I haven't fought in a ring in a very long time...and it was kickboxing, not MMA (wasn't available to me then). I trained in multiple martial arts (including judo (couldn't use that in the ring then), kenpo, tae kwon do). Even just what I did, it was day & night going into a ring...and quite a shock when I fought my first and only pro fighter.

I don't know what to believe with Segal. He's surrounded himself with so much Hollywood hype over his career, who knows. Based on what I have seen and read, he's very skilled in one style. However the guys that fight now in MMA, IMHO, have much more diverse skills that yeild an overall better fighter. Combine that with the age, shape, etc, I'm thinking Mr. Segal won't fair too well. But who knows...my first fight - I was a young, overly confident individual and fought a guy much older that was shorter and looked to be out of shape. It was the only amatuer fight that I lost, but I lost it really well. He knocked the livin' crap out me. I lost my peripheral version immediately after the fight for a short period.

Kudos to you and others that train in MMA fighting and put it to the test. Not me. There's a place not too far from me (Creighton's MMA) that I've thought about visiting just to train. However I can tell you that any kind of fighting sport takes a toll on your body. Injuries to my hands and feet still cause me problems 25 yrs later. Not sure I want to add to that.
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Sounds like something an internet warrior would say lol
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I don't think I've ever seen a Segal movie. Any good?

Never heard of the other guy. Has been?
Under Seige was good...however, all I remember is a girl that comes out of a cake on the ship.
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Not...

No rules against collar bone or rib strikes I'm aware of... And I've never heard of one on those injuries stopping an MMA fight.

Anyway, MMA fighters can do all that too when there are truly no rules. Plus, you didn't mention the nastiest moves-- eye gouging, fish hooking, groin strikes, hair pulling, ear ripping...

MMA is as nasty as it can be while still allowing two dudes to fight another day.

That said... Couture will be able to dominate Seagal without even hurting him... With the same ease as wrestling and pinning his little sister on the ground.
It's not a real fight if there are rules.
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This is a joke right? MMA fighters are only dangerous in the octagon, is that it?
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I don't think I've ever seen a Segal movie. Any good?
Some were amusing, some were down right sucky. Though to be fair, the later ones that were straight to video featured lots of Eastern European bewbies.

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He's a has-been for MMA fighting but now trying to make it in Hollywood. He's been featured in various movies with small parts but got more screen times with Sylvester Stallone's Expendables 1 and Expendables 2.
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