Steven Seagal accepts no-rules fight against Randy Couture - Page 13

DanaT · 12-10-2012, 10:38

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Originally Posted by Sharky7

Your radar is off on this one. I'm sure we have plenty of good fighters on GT. it's not about who is toughest.

Honesty.

I dont doubt that (there are good fighters).

If it is not about who is toughest what is it about?

But really, why would someone make up that that they are a MMA fighter and you guys even challenge it if it wasnt about toughest?

As a profession, MMA fighters aren't impressive. Fighter pilot = cool and impressive. MMA = not cool, not impressive. Surgeon = impressive, not cool. MMA Fighter = still not cool, still not impressive. Plumber = not cool; not impressive.

So why not challenge the plumbers?

If MMA is cool and impressive name ONE value a MMA fighter adds to society and I may revisit my cool/impressive impression.

DanaT · 12-10-2012, 10:40

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Originally Posted by Dubble-Tapper

hell, throw on the 12 oz'ers and some headgear if you must....

If you are buying the beer, please note I can drink quite a bit and like good beer. I normally need 3L of strong beer to start feeling it.

JuneyBooney · 12-10-2012, 10:41

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Originally Posted by Dubble-Tapper

experience for stephen: 15-20 years of Akido, no competitions, no crazy cardio/strength conditioning. very little full contact sparring. definitely not getting punched in the face by 200lbs+ athletes. a lot of acting.

experience for Randy: top level martial arts competitions for 15+ years, NCAA D1 all-american, Pan-Am Greco champ, has fought worldclass BJJ, boxing, muay-thai, karate, etc practitioners with credentials...

i just dont how people are drawing these conclusions...

Well, if they were both married and lived through it..

then the betting would be even. Randy let me down when he lost. But I guess every dog has his day. Are the Lion's Den fellas still involved in the fighting? I truly haven't followed it in years.

DanaT · 12-10-2012, 10:44

I found a video that may be relevant.

Cop's mace vs black guy's kung fu - YouTube

JuneyBooney · 12-10-2012, 10:46

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Originally Posted by DanaT

I dont doubt that (there are good fighters).

If it is not about who is toughest what is it about?

But really, why would someone make up that that they are a MMA fighter and you guys even challenge it if it wasnt about toughest?

As a profession, MMA fighters aren't impressive. Fighter pilot = cool and impressive. MMA = not cool, not impressive. Surgeon = impressive, not cool. MMA Fighter = still not cool, still not impressive. Plumber = not cool; not impressive.

So why not challenge the plumbers?

If MMA is cool and impressive name ONE value a MMA fighter adds to society and I may revisit my cool/impressive impression.

All that really matters in this world is something called "survival". If a man can go out and make enough money to feed his family and have a little left after paying the mortgage. Fighter pilots are cool as hell but from what I understand they are all shorter than the movies show because the cockpits are very small.

I also heard that Tom Cruise was a jerk while on the carrier filming Top Gun but that was a great movie. But he has had some way cool roles and is filthy wealthy.

The plumber will make about 200k a year while overcharging people without mercy..but he will be rich.

tantrix · 12-10-2012, 10:46

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Originally Posted by Sharky7

I'll cover the flight for you. No joke.

Lets make it happen.

If my travel is covered, I'll find a gym. Standard pro MMA rules, 4oz gloves and a cup.

Who's the opponent?

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Originally Posted by DanaT

But really, why would someone make up that that they are a MMA fighter and you guys even challenge it if it wasnt about toughest?

As a profession, MMA fighters aren't impressive. Fighter pilot = cool and impressive. MMA = not cool, not impressive. Surgeon = impressive, not cool. MMA Fighter = still not cool, still not impressive. Plumber = not cool; not impressive.

So why not challenge the plumbers?

If MMA is cool and impressive name ONE value a MMA fighter adds to society and I may revisit my cool/impressive impression.

Envy. Because they don't know how it really is.

Even fighting pro, getting paid to fight, it's not a glamorous as people think it is. Even if you get with the UFC, only fighters on the main card make the big bucks. A lot of times I regret even doing it because of all the injuries I sustained.

Sharky7 · 12-10-2012, 10:46

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Originally Posted by DanaT

I dont doubt that (there are good fighters).

If it is not about who is toughest what is it about?

But really, why would someone make up that that they are a MMA fighter and you guys even challenge it if it wasnt about toughest?

You've been missing some stuff on GT. reference Scott's above post on last page and check tantrix's previous posts. His lies didn't just start with this thread.

***F14Scott*** · 12-10-2012, 10:47

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Originally Posted by DanaT

As a profession, MMA fighters aren't impressive. Fighter pilot = cool and impressive. MMA = not cool, not impressive. Surgeon = impressive, not cool. MMA Fighter = still not cool, still not impressive. Plumber = not cool; not impressive.

Fighter pilots get along really well with surgeons. Similar need for fast decision matrices and confidence in one's decisions. I haven't known any professional fighters, but I bet there are some similarities, there.

Airgap · 12-10-2012, 10:49

Well, I'm a plumber....and I'm cool....

robrides85 · 12-10-2012, 10:49

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Originally Posted by DAKA

Bunch of CRAP, who gives a S**T.
What I'd really like to see is ANYONE take on the midget..TOM CRUISE as JACK REACHER... who in the ****** cast that useless POS as REACHER.
I will not pay to see this JOKE

Absolutely agree. Very disappointing. When I imagined Jack Reacher in my mind's eye, I imagined an uglier Dolph Lundgren. Not Tom Cruise. Ugh.

tantrix · 12-10-2012, 10:50

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Originally Posted by Sharky7

You've been missing some stuff on GT. reference Scott's above post on last page and check tantrix's previous posts. His lies didn't just start with this thread.

As Sharky7 said above, anyone feel free to search my previous posts.

But: Be sure to catch the good one where I trolled Cop Talk for 20 pages. It's been like a month now and they're still pretty riled up.

robrides85 · 12-10-2012, 10:54

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Originally Posted by Mr.Reignman

I love all the "Fanboys" who don't realize at one point, there were maybe a handful of people who could even walk into a room with Seagal and not be at his mercy.

Regardless of whatever mindless actions he's done, he's likely forgotten more about training/discipline and being beaten unmercifully until he did things right. When he trained it wasn't a sport, it was a young white kid over where they didn't like westerners getting made an example of until they realized this kid is for real.... much akin to ramon dekkers.

This. Steven Seagal: "the first foreigner to operate an aikido dojo in Japan". I'm sure they took it easy on him.

JuneyBooney · 12-10-2012, 10:55

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Originally Posted by robrides85

Absolutely agree. Very disappointing. When I imagined Jack Reacher in my mind's eye, I imagined an uglier Dolph Lundgren. Not Tom Cruise. Ugh.

It will probably be a number one movie fellas. It has the action and he is a magnet for money. It actually looks good.

Sharky7 · 12-10-2012, 10:56

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Originally Posted by tantrix

As Sharly7 said, feel free to search my previous posts.

But: Be sure to catch the good one where I trolled Cop Talk for 20 pages. It's been like a month now and they're still pretty riled up.

You "trolled" real good. Lying for all those pages...then posting fake pictures of "your" duty belt, claiming over and over it is yours when asked. Then another GTer finding out the pictures aren't yours and you stole them from another forum - then lied on here to say it was yours.

Awesome "troll" job.

This reminds of that new MTV show catfish.

JuneyBooney · 12-10-2012, 10:58

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Originally Posted by nmk

This saga is almost too painful to watch. Almost. I hate liars.

I have Cherokee Indian in me. I think that is why I hate liars too.

tantrix · 12-10-2012, 11:01

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Originally Posted by Sharky7

You "trolled" real good. Lying for all those pages...then posting fake pictures of "your" duty belt, claiming over and over it is yours when asked. Then another GTer finding out the pictures aren't yours and you stole them from another forum - then lied on here to say it was yours.

Awesome "troll" job.

This reminds of that new MTV show catfish.

Wait, don't leave out the part where it took the "investigators" in CT 2 days to find those pics, which were snagged off of Google in like 30 seconds. I never actually took any, I was on the couch watching a movie the entire time.

That thread started off annoying, but I ended up having a lot of fun with it. Good times.

***F14Scott*** · 12-10-2012, 11:02

BTW, other than a year of Aikido in college, a few weeks of boxing in the Navy, and a few scrappy fightish moments in grade and high school, I'm not a fighter.

I still contend that, in a no-rules fight, Seagal would just keep dodging and backing up until Couture commits, grab a hand, and do some monster joint lock that would probably break Randy's wrist. There's a reason those guys in the videos are jumping and doing those flips, and it is because they are relieving the instant and immense pain of those locks.

Now, if Randy shoots and gets Steven in the guard, I have no idea what Steven would or could do. I've never seen Aikido done from one's back.

DanaT · 12-10-2012, 11:04

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Originally Posted by F14Scott

Fighter pilots get along really well with surgeons. Similar need for fast decision matrices and confidence in one's decisions. I haven't known any professional fighters, but I bet there are some similarities, there.

I suspect you find surgeons somewhat intriguing because of similar intellectual levels. As you know, you cant be an idiot and get into flight school for fighters nor can your be an idiot and get into medical school. How many people at US AFA or Annapolis were at the bottom half of their high school class? You can be an idiot and be a professional fighter. Exhibit 1: Mike Tyson.

tantrix · 12-10-2012, 11:06

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Originally Posted by DanaT

You can be an idiot and be a legend. Exhibit 1: Mike Tyson.

Fixed it for you.

I grew up watching Tyson...incredible power.

Sharky7 · 12-10-2012, 11:07

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Originally Posted by tantrix

Wait, don't leave out the part where it took the "investigators" in CT 2 days to find those pics, which were snagged off of Google in like 30 seconds. I never actually took any, I was on the couch watching a movie the entire time.

That thread started off annoying, but I ended up having a lot of fun with it. Good times.

You lied. You got caught in your lies. You don't want to post anymore of "your" MMA pictures because you can't. That is also a lie.

DanaT · 12-10-2012, 11:08

I think it will come down to who has perfected protecting their eyes from attack. If you cant see, you cant fight.

DanaT · 12-10-2012, 11:10

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Originally Posted by tantrix

Fixed it for you.

I grew up watching Tyson...incredible power.

You do know the definition of "legend" dont you?

1. a popular story handed down from earlier times whose truth has not been ascertained

4. a person whose fame or notoriety makes him a source of exaggerated or romanticized tales or exploits

To be a "legend" the tales must be untruthful.

tantrix · 12-10-2012, 11:11

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Originally Posted by Sharky7

You lied. You got caught in your lies. You don't want to post anymore of "your" MMA pictures because you can't. That is also a lie.

All of the MMA pics were real, matter of fact all of them I pulled off of here.

Oh, and I love the part where I waited the rest of that thread for the "photoshop experts" in Cop Talk to tell me if that weigh-in pic, taken with my own camera that day, was altered...no answer, ever...just silence.

tantrix · 12-10-2012, 11:13

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Originally Posted by DanaT

You do know the definition of "legend" dont you?

1. a popular story handed down from earlier times whose truth has not been ascertained

4. a person whose fame or notoriety makes him a source of exaggerated or romanticized tales or exploits

To be a "legend" the tales must be untruthful.

That's right...people will be telling stories about Tyson for the next 100 years, like he was a fairy tale.

Sharky7 · 12-10-2012, 11:19

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Originally Posted by tantrix

All of the MMA pics were real, matter of fact all of them I pulled off of here.

Oh, and I love the part where I waited the rest of that thread for the "photoshop experts" in Cop Talk to tell me if that weigh-in pic, taken with my own camera that day, was altered...no answer, ever...just silence.

It would probably be similar to the part where I told you I thought you were lying and that duty belt wasn't yours. You replied over and over it was yours giving description about it - that is until you got caught. Then you said, just kidding I was "trolling."