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Old 12-03-2012, 11:39   #41
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This is entertaining to see just about everyone blaming the holster without there being any facts to prove it. Childish if you ask me. Guns are machines and machines can fail. Yes, even if it is a Glock!

I would sideline both the gun and the holster until the cause is figured out. Until then, lets stop playing the blame game people.
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:47   #42
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Did you check sear engagement? If you don't know how, find a glock armorer. Some of the gun shops have factory certified armorers.

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Glocks don't have a sear.
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:49   #43
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I would sideline both the gun and the holster until the cause is figured out. Until then, lets stop playing the blame game people.
I agree, the gun does need to be checked out.
If unmodified as the OP claims, something is hinky
about this AD.
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:50   #44
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This is entertaining to see just about everyone blaming the holster without there being any facts to prove it. Childish if you ask me. Guns are machines and machines can fail. Yes, even if it is a Glock!

I would sideline both the gun and the holster until the cause is figured out. Until then, lets stop playing the blame game people.
Do you know how the striker system in these guns operates...?

I'm not saying it can't be the gun, but based on odds it's probably a 1:1,000,000 chance that it is...
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Yes, and about 1:1 if some crazy gunsmith messed with it. But that's not the case here, I think.

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Yes, and about 1:1 if some crazy gunsmith messed with it. But that's not the case here, I think.
Yes, but they didn't... Based on everything the OP stated it has to be the holster. Otherwise, the chances are better that it was a ghost...
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Glocks don't have a sear.
That is what the cruciform portion of the trigger bar performs,it stops,holds,releases lug of F P/ striker. SJ 40

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Old 12-03-2012, 12:28   #48
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Also have field stripped and checked everything on the glock and it all seems to be perfect.

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Fortunately no one was injured.

You said you bought it new recently and that is was stock.

1. Has the pistol been detail stripped since you bought it?

2. Did you check to see if the firing safety was operating correctly when you field stripped it?
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:36   #49
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Having my LGS (Glock armorers) inspect the pistol for me today. What is stacking on a trigger? Sorry never heard the term before. Also I had to laugh at the 10mm comment.
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I'm not saying it can't be the gun, but based on odds it's probably a 1:1,000,000 chance that it is...
That's my thinking as well. I realize the video I posted above is different than what the OP posted about but I just wanted to point out some issues with the holsters. Sure there's a ton of people out there that have them and never have isses but they do seem to have some issues (several classes I've been to ban the holsters for these reasons).
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:39   #51
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Fortunately no one was injured.

You said you bought it new recently and that is was stock.

1. Has the pistol been detail stripped since you bought it?

2. Did you check to see if the firing safety was operating correctly when you field stripped it?
I have only stripped it to the recommended point to clean the pistol tbh. When I field stripped it though I DID check that the firing safety operated correctly, it did. I wasnt able to make the trigger release or anything by repeating the process with the now UNLOADED pistol.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:41   #52
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I have only stripped it to the recommended point to clean the pistol tbh. When I field stripped it though I DID check that the firing safety operated correctly, it did. I wasnt able to make the trigger release or anything by repeating the process with the now UNLOADED pistol.
Thanks for the reply. It will be interesting to see what your Armorer has to say. Please do let us know.
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Old 12-03-2012, 13:22   #53
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Do you know how the striker system in these guns operates...?

I'm not saying it can't be the gun, but based on odds it's probably a 1:1,000,000 chance that it is...
Yes, I am pretty aware on the operation.

Due to the nature of this AD, something just doesn't seem right.
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Old 12-03-2012, 13:50   #54
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Well the Glock Armorer says that my pistol is 100% in good working order. So he thinks maybe the push button had stuck on my trigger by being loose and falling too far into the trigger guard. And when I set it down the pistol maybe shifted forward enough to engage the trigger on said push button? Maybe he is on to something. Going to check the push button on that serpa as I get home.
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Well the Glock Armorer says that my pistol is 100% in good working order. So he thinks maybe the push button had stuck on my trigger by being loose and falling too far into the trigger guard. And when I set it down the pistol maybe shifted forward enough to engage the trigger on said push button? Maybe he is on to something. Going to check the push button on that serpa as I get home.
Interesting. I have a push-button holster for my M&P Pro that I use for plate shoots. It was all my LGS had on short notice as I needed one fast to use during competition. That said, all of my carry guns are in thumb break or kydex retention holsters. I personally will not carry anything that I can't simply grab and pull from, or that has anything interfearing with the trigger...
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OP glad to hear that the gun is 100% after Glock armorer inspection. I took a look at one of my Serpas this morning and there is only one moving part on the holster and that is the release button. I believe this button is not big or strong enough to pull the trigger even if it broke off and fell inside the holster. This button is part of the retention system and if broken you would have felt the gun moving around and have noticed it when you set it down. Did you check for any foreign objects inside the holster after it happened? I have a couple of Serpas that I don't use anymore, not because I feel they are unsafe but because I like my Comptac paddles a little better. I would not hesitate to slide one of my Serpas on if needed (after inspecting it of course). The main thing is that no one was hurt. Keep us updated.
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Glocks don't have a sear.
Gee, when I went to the armorer's school they did.
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Something smells fishy here.
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Gee, when I went to the armorer's school they did.

Can you show me the sear in the Glock armorer's manual??
As far as I know the trigger bar and connector do that work and release the striker after pulling it back. This is page 23.
Let me know if you need another page posted.

My 1911's had a sear that engaged the hammer.





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Yea I was wondering the same about the push button. I wouldn't think it was strong enough to do something like that. AFAIK there was no debris or objects in the holster etc. None that I saw at least. I am just completely dumbfounded about this.
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