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Old 12-01-2012, 14:57   #1
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Claims of theft

Ok so here is the long and short of the matter. My x and I split on the friday before fathers day. A week latter she got most of her stuff but ended up leaving holiday things and ornaments that her kids had made her. None of it has any real value. Today she starts texting me demanding that I give it back. I have no problem with this but I have to wait till my work allows me, either tue or wed. She has told me that she does not give a damn about my work and if I do not have it ready for her by monday she will file a stolen property report. I have called the local sheriff and they told me that it is a civil matter and all she can do is take me to court. Is this true?
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Old 12-01-2012, 15:00   #2
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I'm not sure if this applies in Ohio, but theft usually requires an intent to permanently deprive the owner of their property, which you clearly are not trying to do, so it is not theft.

It's definitely a civil matter that law enforcement should not be involved in.

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Old 12-01-2012, 15:03   #3
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Guess it was more long then short lol. And she is just pissed that she found out the night after we broke up I was ****ing her best friend.
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Old 12-01-2012, 15:19   #4
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Definitely civil. She's lucky you haven't thrown it out since you all have been broken up for 6 months.

I hate dealing with domestic BS like this. People, especially women love to use LE as a tool to screw with their boyfriends, husbands, ex's, etc.


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Old 12-01-2012, 15:22   #5
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Definitely civil. She's lucky you haven't thrown it out since you all have been broken up for 6 months.
I didn't catch that it was that long ago
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Old 12-01-2012, 15:54   #6
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Yes, civil matter.
She should have taken it with her when she moved.
Is she on the rental agreement? Not that it makes a difference, but if she could have the door opened when you are not home.
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Old 12-01-2012, 16:07   #7
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I'm not taking one side or the other, but try to bend over backwards as much as possible, especially after what you did with her best friend.

Why? Because it's true that "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned."

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Old 12-01-2012, 16:14   #8
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Civil. If sent on such a call, I'd probably tell her as such and to quit using the police as a tool to mess with you.
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Yes, civil matter.
She should have taken it with her when she moved.
Is she on the rental agreement? Not that it makes a difference, but if she could have the door opened when you are not home.
There is no rental I own my house.
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I'm not taking one side or the other, but try to bend over backwards as much as possible, especially after what you did with her best friend.

Why? Because it's true that "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned."

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Well first off she cheated on me with like 6 people. And next it has not been quit 6 months but not far from. She was going to be brake up on me on fathers day. Her friend told me the friday before and she moved out the following wed.
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I'm not taking one side or the other, but try to bend over backwards as much as possible, especially after what you did with her best friend.

Why? Because it's true that "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned."

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good Simple and smart advice.

How simple would it be to get it safely boxed up and have her pick it up after you leave.
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good Simple and smart advice.

How simple would it be to get it safely boxed up and have her pick it up after you leave.
It is already boxed up but I just do not want her around my house. I talked to my boss and I am going to get off early tomorrow so I think I am going to drop it off at her moms house. Is there anything I should do to protect myself to prove I gave it to her mom?
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There is no rental I own my house.
Sorry for my assumption.
As a general advise, don't meet her by yourself and record every meeting (as long as your state does not prohibits it).
Best would be if you have a neutral friend gives her her stuff.
She is bitter and out to get you!!
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Sorry for my assumption.
As a general advise, don't meet her by yourself and record every meeting (as long as your state does not prohibits it).
Best would be if you have a neutral friend gives her her stuff.
She is bitter and out to get you!!
well if I had her come get it I was going to have a cop or sheriff there. Could I have a cop there when i dropped it off at her moms? That way there is some one to prove that I did not just drop it off take the video of me doing it and then take the stuff back?

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I don't know Ohio.
In Maine LE does not do "hand overs" unless you pay for an off duty officer.
Just give it to a friend who drops it off at her moms.
After this don't respond to any calls from her.
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I don't know Ohio.
In Maine LE does not do "hand overs" unless you pay for an off duty officer.
Just give it to a friend who drops it off at her moms.
After this don't respond to any calls from her.
The problem with that is the only one of her friends that I am friends with does not have a car. The rest of them have dropped her or hate me.
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Old 12-01-2012, 20:09   #18
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As others have mentioned it is clearly a civil matter. I would absolutely not deliver it anywhere, and would not call her anymore for any reason... too much opportunity to mince words.

The property was clearly abandoned after six months, but as Patchman mentioned, you will probably not get any bonus points dumping it in the trash.

My advice is to type up a letter on your computer advising her that her property was left at your residence, with some reasonable dates/times convenient for you when she, or an agent may pick it up, and let her know if she does not pick it up by whatever date and time it will be disposed of (donated to a charity, or circular file). Send it certified mail, and when you get the return either save it, or scan it into you computer.

If you believe this is really an issue, take a pic of the property and hold on to it for two years, and/or record the conversation when whoever picks it up, which is completely legal in Ohio so far as ONE person in the conversation knows it is being recorded.

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It is all meaningless until a judge states who owns what.
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It is all meaningless until a judge states who owns what.
And as blueiron so eloquently puts it... essentially meaning there is no free ride living together and not being married when separating assets. She can file a case in Domestic Relations Court, highly unlikely she will win with the circumstances you provided, but nevertheless.

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