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Old 11-27-2012, 17:17   #126
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That about sums it up for me, too. I've had many dogs over the years and I loved them all. Your dog is the only animal in the world that would rather be with you than with other dogs. Dog spelled backwards is... and all that. Heck, I even carry "doggy treats" in my glove box... for dogs I've never met.

But, no, they are not humans. I think human life has a much greater value.
Finally someone with common sense. You guys have been watching too many Disney movies that make animals have human like emotions and mannerisms. I get a kick out of people that have said their dog or cat loves them. Fools!

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Old 11-27-2012, 17:35   #127
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You make a fallacious assumption. I'm guessing that fnfalman would agree wtih the idea that not all animal life (and not all human life) has the same value.

I wouldn't eat my pets. I wouldn't kill my family. But I would eat some animals and I would kill some people.

Why whenever I log on to this, I see the same folks, generally the ones that are religious make illogical arguments, then I see DD and Falman come on and correct them?

Man, and I thought maybe times have changed for the couple weeks I haven't logged into glocktalk!
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Old 11-27-2012, 18:39   #128
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The family didn't die trying to save the dog.

The 16 year old boy tried to save the dog, then returned to shore. Good judgment.

The family tried to save each other, the dog was not an issue. Their efforts were valiant, but futile.
The family created the scenario of their own demise. Had they not taught junior that "doggie is people" he would have waved goodbye to doggie like a country boy and everyone would still be alive-even the dog.
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Old 11-27-2012, 18:43   #129
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The family created the scenario of their own demise. Had they not taught junior that "doggie is people" he would have waved goodbye to doggie like a country boy and everyone would still be alive-even the dog.


How do you have any idea what they taught their son? You sure are a presumptuous cuss, I'll give you that.
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Old 11-27-2012, 18:43   #130
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That..... is stupid.

You judge his ethics and priorities based on a flip comment on the web. Accuse him of being vegan because he'd risk himself to save his pet?

I got news for you, I'd risk my life to save my little buddies. Hell, I'd risk YOUR life to save them.
That is is dispicable.

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Why?

I love my dogs, they make me feel better after a bad day when they both jump in my lap and burrow their heads into my neck and wiggle with pleasure as I scratch them. You're just another judgmental A-hole in a hat.
I like dogs, I have always owned dogs. But, I am not some yuppie city slicker who can't tell the difference between canine and human. animal and human.

Unlike you, I would gladly let my dog die, if it was a choice between saving a human life, or her life. It isn't that hard.

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I know far too many people I wouldn't piddle on if they was on fire, I never met a dog that made me feel that way.

Now you have someone to judge.
Oh, there are a lot of people I dislike in this life. Some of them are still alive because it is illegal and immoral to kill them. However, they still have more value than a dog.
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Old 11-27-2012, 18:45   #131
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That is is dispicable.
Actually, what he said has more virtue than any of the dribble you've offered up, including your original post.
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Old 11-27-2012, 18:55   #132
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That is is dispicable.
Irrisputably.
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Old 11-27-2012, 18:58   #133
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The family created the scenario of their own demise. Had they not taught junior that "doggie is people" he would have waved goodbye to doggie like a country boy and everyone would still be alive-even the dog.
That really ranks up there as asnine statements go,

Did you know the family? did witnesses report the kid yelling "He's human" before he waded into the water?

Suppose a 12 year-old kid waded out to get his sand bucket that got swept out? Would you be saying

"Had they not taught junior that "sand buckets" is people...."?

I have seen kids do the darndest thing without a dog around to blame.
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Old 11-27-2012, 19:04   #134
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I don't believe my dogs are people...I would jump in the water to save my dogs, unlike most people.
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Old 11-27-2012, 19:09   #135
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I don't believe my dogs are people...I would jump in the water to save my dogs, unlike most people.
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I don't always agree with Bren, but when I do, he's 100% right...
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Old 11-27-2012, 19:09   #136
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That is is dispicable.
Actually, it's rather spot on. HH
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Old 11-27-2012, 19:45   #137
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That may be your personal belief, but it isn't mine.

I'd risk my life to save my pets. I don't necessarily feel the same about other humans or even some of my own family members.
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Old 11-27-2012, 19:49   #138
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Irrisputably.

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Old 11-27-2012, 20:19   #139
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So what makes all human life so valuable? Who said? A cooky religion?
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Old 11-28-2012, 05:11   #140
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..... Oh, there are a lot of people I dislike in this life. Some of them are still alive because it is illegal and immoral to kill them. However, they still have more value than a dog.
This is your opinion. There is nothing wrong with your opinion.

Others have the opinion that there are a lot of people that have less value than a dog. You seem to want them to change their opinion, though I maybe misinterpreting that.

I don't think dogs (or cats) are people, but I'd sure as shootin risk my life to save many dogs and cats before I'd lift a finger to save many people.

Irrisputably discusting FTW!
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:12   #141
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:20   #142
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Would anyone kill a human to save their dog?
Depends on the human. If it were some Taliban vermin scum who killed women and girls for daring to learn to read, then absolutely. Hell, I'd do it to rescue a dog I'd never seen before.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:48   #143
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Would anyone kill a human to save their dog?
That question is too vague. It depends on the situation.

If I am walking around the block and some guy runs up and tries to kill my dog, I am going to defend her in the same way I would myself or my child. If that other person dies in the process, so be it.
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:04   #144
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Would anyone kill a human to save their dog?
Hmmm, good question.

I might feed a welfare baby to a starving pit bull.
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:17   #145
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Would anyone kill a human to save their dog?
Save my dog? Hell, there's a substantial subset of humanity that I'd kill(if I were all powerful) because they simply don't deserve to live. So I'd reckon' the simple answer is yes.

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Old 11-28-2012, 12:47   #146
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Would anyone kill a human to save their dog?
Depends on the human and the dog, but it's a possibility.
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Old 11-28-2012, 12:49   #147
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Would risk my life to save my animals.

Can't say the same for people (my job aside.)
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Old 11-28-2012, 12:50   #148
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In the right situation, absolutely.
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Old 11-28-2012, 13:07   #149
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That may be your personal belief, but it isn't mine.

I'd risk my life to save my pets. I don't necessarily feel the same about other humans or even some of my own family members.
I feel the same,Have a safe night.
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Old 11-28-2012, 13:08   #150
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The way I see it and this is just my opinion. There are 3 types of pet owners:

1. Owners who are irresponsible and abusive towards their pets

2. Owners who care, protect and have a sense of responsibility for their pets

3. Owners who idolize their pets to the point of putting a higher than human value on them

I have owned dogs, cats, fish etc. since I was a child but I was brought up with the values of example # 2 and that’s it...nothing more nothing less.
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