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Old 11-09-2012, 21:44   #1
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Wolf Primers?

Im starting to get to the point where ordering online in bulk will be the way to go to save some money. I noticed wolf primers are substantially cheaper than CCI. Do any of you guys have any experience or opinions on these primers? Any input would be appreciated. I will mainly be loading 223 and 40/45 with them.

Ive been using CCI, No41 for 223, and normal small/large pistol for 40/45. Would I notice any difference switching?

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Old 11-09-2012, 23:43   #2
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I can't tell you if there will be any differences in performance as I don't do that kind of testing.

But I have used tens of thousands of Wolf primers, including the SRM for .223 loads, and LP for .45 ACP and .45 Colt.

They go bang everytime.
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Old 11-10-2012, 06:05   #3
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Thanks for the reply mac. Im in the same boat as you, and I mainly just load plinking ammo. I found a few other forums and it seems the general consensus is they usually work good. Guess its time to place a bulk order for some and give them a try.

$14/1k is amazing compared to the $33/1k Ive been paying for the CCI No41 primers.

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Old 11-10-2012, 06:15   #4
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I've run thousands of Wolf and Tulas (they both come from the same plant, I think), and they've been fine. About the same hardness as Winchesters in my experience.
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Old 11-10-2012, 06:31   #5
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I use lots of the small rifle magnum primers. No issues at all.
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Old 11-10-2012, 07:17   #6
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Thanks for giving me some reassurance in my soon to be purchase guys.
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Old 11-10-2012, 14:10   #7
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I shoot a lot of Tula primers for 45 acp and they are great.
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Old 11-10-2012, 15:47   #8
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Whatever the primers are in my WPA .308 are hard as a rock or something. I can't get my rifle to fire those damned things on the first trigger pull for the life of me.
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Old 11-10-2012, 18:07   #9
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Usually when it takes a second strike or more it's a seating problem.
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Old 11-10-2012, 18:10   #10
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Used TULA since was half price. Have ran them threw several guns with no failures. Used LPP and SPP from them.
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Old 11-10-2012, 18:21   #11
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Whatever the primers are in my WPA .308 are hard as a rock or something. I can't get my rifle to fire those damned things on the first trigger pull for the life of me.
Well, what rifle, and can we assume you've tested it with other brands of ammo?
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Well, what rifle, and can we assume you've tested it with other brands of ammo?
Thompson Center Venture .308

I've used Winchester, Prvi Partizan, Hornady, and Fiocchi to name a few. The WPA ammo I got from LuckyGunner just doesn't want to fire.

Sometimes it shoots the first time, mostly not though. I read that the primers are thicker to prevent a slam fire in military semi auto rifles.

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Old 11-10-2012, 23:08   #13
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I use them for the AR.
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Old 11-11-2012, 12:15   #14
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I use Tula for range plinkers; cci for my gun games.

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Old 11-13-2012, 15:30   #15
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Are Russian primers corresive?

I know they go bang but are Tula primers corresive? Thanks.
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Old 11-13-2012, 15:46   #16
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I bought years ago 5k of Wolf SR primers when everything was "out".
They worked just fine in my .223's.
I did not buy them anymore since Federal and Winchester came available again and I don't buy Russian or Chinese if I have the choice.


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Old 11-13-2012, 16:13   #17
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I believe Wolf is made by the same plant that made PMC primers. I had bought three sleeves of PMC shotgun primers a few years ago and thought they were great! They seemed to be consistent with Winchester primers. I wouldn't hesitate buying Wolf, or PMC primers, especially at the right price.

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Old 11-13-2012, 18:03   #18
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Wolf/Tula primers are non-corrosive. PMC is a South Korean company and I don't think they get their primers from Tula.
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Wolf/Tula primers are non-corrosive. PMC is a South Korean company and I don't think they get their primers from Tula.
Perhaps they changed ownership and locations over the years.

Here is a thread that once described them on Accurate Shooter:

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/...-pvi-wideners/
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:33   #20
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Perhaps they changed ownership and locations over the years.

Here is a thread that once described them on Accurate Shooter:

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/...-pvi-wideners/
Thanks. I'd never heard of that.
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:28   #21
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I use lots of the small rifle magnum primers. No issues at all.
I do as well. It's pretty much the only ones I use for ARs.

Do a search over at M4 Carbine and you'll find lots of data regarding the use of Wolf SRM and the general consensus that they are actually one of the better primers to use for ARs (very low SDs). I load 69 grainers to shoot out to 300-400 at 3-gun with Wolf very good results.
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:49   #22
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I've seen people say that Wolf and Tula are the same primers from the same plant, just branded differently. Is there any evidence of this or is it just supposition because they both come from the same country?
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:31   #23
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Just be aware that Wolf Large Pistol Magnum primers suck. They are NOT hotter than their regular primer and they will cause wide velocity variations in 44 mag with slow powders (H110/296, Enforcer). The CCI 350 is a very good primer in comparison and worth the price.
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Old 11-14-2012, 15:24   #24
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I have good luck with their Large Pistol. Looks like post above me says the mags may have issues tho.
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Old 11-17-2012, 18:03   #25
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I've shot many thousands in matches. Never had a problem with them. I have noticed that they tend to be a tighter fit...just a little harder to seat. Could just be me though.
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