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Old 11-19-2012, 16:59   #1
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finally

I got my first AR. It is a basic Rock River. It was between that and a Windham.

Any thoughts on these?

I wanted to stay reasonable , price wise.
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Old 11-19-2012, 17:07   #2
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A little backwards don't you think?

What model? What did you pay?

My personal thought is for a general purpose AR RRA is a miss. Windham is still fairly unproven.
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Old 11-19-2012, 17:14   #3
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my buddy loves his rra. in fact i havent really heard much bad about them(besides the fact that theyre not a colt or noveske)
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Old 11-19-2012, 17:15   #4
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A little backwards don't you think?
This will be a growing trend because of the election. Buy first, then ask questions...

Personally, I wouldn't buy either. Dick's Sporting Goods is having a sale on Troy complete carbines at $799 which is currently the best deal out there (quite frankly insane). Colts are $1099 or cheaper at Wal-mart and other big chains. There is just no reason to comprise on anything right now.

However, you've got it now. Buy ammo, magazines, and lube. Get some instruction, and shoot it until something goes wrong.
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Old 11-19-2012, 17:24   #5
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RR Ar15

$800
I liked the fit and finish of it compared to the others.

It is a basic 16 " flat top carbine, 6 position stock and A2 front sight.

No Dicks within 100 miles and my son in law is still looking for one.
We have seen a lot of Windham adds lately. When buying firearms , I tend to go with my gut feeling.Sometimes it is good sometimes not.

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Old 11-19-2012, 17:27   #6
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OP I have an RRA M4 1:7 gov't profile CL and it is my most shot 16" AR, albeit heavily upgraded from stock. I have around 11k rounds through it with few issues, no more or less than my other rifles. It is just as reliable and more accurate than my LMT rifles. They are thought of as "second tier" rifles by most of the internet but I have shot the snot out of mine and it has been nothing but great. I have taken it to several classes over the years and it has been my dedicated hog/coyote rifle for a long time. Shoot it, enjoy it, most of the nay sayers don't even own one.

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Old 11-19-2012, 18:58   #7
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So far I like my Rock River national match just fine. Runs good, no jams. I'm working on my shooting, but it seems capable of going below 1 MOA.

I can never live up to some hypothetical internet standard. Some people only like a Colt or a clone of a Colt. I think Rock River doesn't consider istself a mil-spec clone.

If you like their design and they run good, that should be all that is important

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Old 11-19-2012, 19:05   #8
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My buddy has a 6.8 RRA that was 'custom' built by them. It's been 100% reliable so far, but he's selling it. I don't know if that tells you anything or not.


I think people tend to stay away from RRA because they aren't milspec. Just because something isn't milspec doesn't mean it isn't reliable, accurate, and a good deal. And just because something isn't milspec doesn't mean it's not complete junk either. I don't think RRA puts out junk, but i'm not sure if i'd be lining up to get one. But at $800, you could have gotten a lot worse. Congrats and shoot the piss out of it!
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The important question is, what are you going to use it for. I'm sure it will be all the rifle you need.

I guess the kids are miffed you didn't seek their recommendation () before buying.


But if you want to know what the kids have against it, go here:

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=7376
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Old 11-19-2012, 20:04   #10
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AR use

Plinking ,range use varmint and vermin control.

And maybe self defense, if the need arises.

I am looking at maybe 1000 rounds per year.


I have another question. What are the first tier AR manufactures? Baer, Colt etc?
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Old 11-19-2012, 20:21   #11
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Plinking ,range use varmint and vermin control.

And maybe self defense, if the need arises.

I am looking at maybe 1000 rounds per year.


I have another question. What are the first tier AR manufactures? Baer, Colt etc?
Noveske, Larue, LMT, LWRC, KAC, Colt, BCM and a select few others. When I think 'top tier' I don't think of Baer, but that's just because they are custom. Anything 'custom' is inherently better quality.
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Old 11-19-2012, 20:22   #12
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Rock River Rifles tend to have better than average accuracy, so if you are really committed to marksmanship, you can really get a lot from your new AR. They are also often good choices for someone interested in varmint and small game hunting. Find an Appleseed event or NRA class to get grounded in the fundamentals of marksmanship and shoot that thing!
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Noveske, Larue, LMT, LWRC, KAC, Colt, BCM and a select few others. When I think 'top tier' I don't think of Baer, but that's just because they are custom. Anything 'custom' is inherently better quality.
There a few custom outfits that are not inherently of good quality. Wilson and Baer are good quality, but just because a custom maker buys a few glossy ads in Black Rifle Magazine doesn't mean anything.....

Also top tier are JP Enterprises, and Daniel Defense.
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Old 11-19-2012, 20:32   #14
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The important question is, what are you going to use it for. I'm sure it will be all the rifle you need.

I guess the kids are miffed you didn't seek their recommendation () before buying.


But if you want to know what the kids have against it, go here:

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=7376
You would make a good psych study.

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Plinking ,range use varmint and vermin control.

And maybe self defense, if the need arises.

I am looking at maybe 1000 rounds per year.


I have another question. What are the first tier AR manufactures? Baer, Colt etc?
You should be good.

Some of the better producers are Colt, BCM, DD, LMT, Noveske, Larue, and a couple others.

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Noveske, Larue, LMT, LWRC, KAC, Colt, BCM and a select few others. When I think 'top tier' I don't think of Baer, but that's just because they are custom. Anything 'custom' isn't inherently better quality.
Is that what you meant? When I think custom I think bubba in the garage piecing together a YHM/DPMS/zombie mess.
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By custom, i meant custom/precision machined. Not 'custom' built like pieced together by some goof in his garage like me.
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Old 11-19-2012, 20:43   #16
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Thanks for the info everyone.

If something noteworthy happens , I will post the news.

The staking links are outstanding.
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Old 11-19-2012, 20:56   #17
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Thanks for the info everyone.

If something noteworthy happens , I will post the news.

The staking links are outstanding.
My Rock River seems to be staked just fine.

How is yours?
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By custom, i meant custom/precision machined. Not 'custom' built like pieced together by some goof in his garage like me.
There are a lot of "custom" AR-15 makers out there that produce crap out of a shop. These are mostly small groups trying to capitalize on the new market boom.
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RRA makes quality rifles, the RRA upper I own has been top notch in every regard.

You did good, enjoy the rifle.
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