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Old 11-25-2012, 13:28   #61
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Am I the only one thankful that 9mm is not equal to a .357 magnum? cost, blast, weight? I love my 6" 357 magnum but I have only carried it in the woods I carry my 9mm 24/7 365.
when I hear people saying they would never carry anything less powerful than a ."357 MAGNUM" I ask them if I can see it...they walk to their safe and get it out and show me, I then laugh.
Yup. All the guys in my club are died-in-the-wool 1911 guys. They all have carry permits. Their gun is always in their range bag. My gun is always on my hip or in my pocket and it aint no 40 ounce steel 45.
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Does it shoot 158 grainers at 1500fps?
The heaviest bullet loaded for 9x19 us the 147gr JHP, and the +p loading yields 1000 FPS or so. The 9mm will never equal the famed .357 loading of a 125gr JHP going 1450 FPS.
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Old 11-25-2012, 15:20   #63
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Am I the only one thankful that 9mm is not equal to a .357 magnum? cost, blast, weight? I love my 6" 357 magnum but I have only carried it in the woods I carry my 9mm 24/7 365.
when I hear people saying they would never carry anything less powerful than a ."357 MAGNUM" I ask them if I can see it...they walk to their safe and get it out and show me, I then laugh.
There is a good chance I might reach on my belt to show you a 3" model 65
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The heaviest bullet loaded for 9x19 us the 147gr JHP, and the +p loading yields 1000 FPS or so. The 9mm will never equal the famed .357 loading of a 125gr JHP going 1450 FPS.
There have been some 158's in 9mm for suppressed subguns.
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Am I the only one thankful that 9mm is not equal to a .357 magnum? cost, blast, weight? I love my 6" 357 magnum but I have only carried it in the woods I carry my 9mm 24/7 365.
when I hear people saying they would never carry anything less powerful than a ."357 MAGNUM" I ask them if I can see it...they walk to their safe and get it out and show me, I then laugh.
As much as I like the .357mag and revolvers I have no interest in carrying one all the time. Hiking in the woods or hunting no problem. Carrying all the time I will take the double or more round capacity, lighter weight, more compact, no cylinder bulge pistol. Don't really matter if it is 9mm, .40, .357sig and etc.

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There have been some 158's in 9mm for suppressed subguns.
Must move at half the speed of smell.

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Must move at half the speed of smell.
I don't know what the commercial ammo does, but I loaded some 158LRN to some old Lyman data and got 900fps out of a pistol.
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I'm sure you already know this, but I wish to reiterate. 9mm owners are very defensive about their guns. In their own minds the 9mm round is every bit as good as any other round out there despite proof to the opposite. It's a pride of ownership thing
Look at me. The only Glock I own (since 1989) has been the G17 9mm.
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As much as I like the .357mag and revolvers I have no interest in carrying one all the time. Hiking in the woods or hunting no problem. Carrying all the time I will take the double or more round capacity, lighter weight, more compact, no cylinder bulge pistol. Don't really matter if it is 9mm, .40, .357sig and etc.
There have been .357mag semi-autos...

http://www.gunreports.com/news/news/...ic_3679-1.html
http://www.coonaninc.com/products.ph...94544cf8c07fcb
http://www.magnumresearch.com/Firear...gnum-Black.asp
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I had the Desert Eagle 357, nice gun
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I know there are a few out there. Look what they weigh. A 4.5lb pistol that holds 9 rounds of .357mag is far from ideal for carry. The Coonan isn't much better in the weight aspect and looses a couple rounds. Range only guns in my book.

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There have been some 158's in 9mm for suppressed subguns.
And it was going way below 1100 FPS. Subsonic, for sure.
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:: I don't know of any semi-auto .38 Special handguns but I was able to shoot a .357 Magnum Desert Eagle at the range once. It was a massive, heavy pistol completely unsuited for my personal uses. :::
FYI, Coonan 357 Magnum Autoloader. 5" stainless steel. Also shoots 38 S&W Special. I sold this before Dan resumed production, but it remains one of the most accurate pistols I have ever shot, two handed and standing - using standard full power (for today's standards) ammo. Much much less recoil than a 4" revolver, and quite a bit more velocity.

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FYI, Coonan 357 Magnum Autoloader. 5" stainless steel. Also shoots 38 S&W Special.
I hadn't thought of that although I'm well aware that the .357 Magnum revolvers shoot .38 Special.

But with a .357 Magnum semi-auto pistol that heavy I doubt many owners would choose to download the ammo except for range practice.
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People just don't learn and always challenging the magnum
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