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Old 11-17-2012, 21:46   #1
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Opinion: AR 223, 308 or bolt action 338 lupah?

I have the AK covered. Want an AR but thinking a long range rifle may be a wiser choice.
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Old 11-17-2012, 23:28   #2
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If you don't have an AR then that first... and magazines... particularly since that's more apt to be included in any ban. You can do both with that AR if you like. I have a 20" Barrel Colt AR that does me longer ranges.

I took care of that sort of thing before the "original" election. Now I am able to calmly and deliberately fill in those Bolt/lever/small capacity semi action hunting rifles and revolvers.
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Old 11-18-2012, 07:34   #3
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The .338 Lapua is probably more gun than you know what to do with. Long-range shooting isn't something you just pick up by watching a YT video and going to the range a few times. Good quality .308 AR's are expensive. Start with a regular .223/5.56 AR...once you've gotten good enough to max out the distance on that, then step up to a larger caliber.
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:57   #4
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Generally if you cannot correctly spell the name of something, you don't need it.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:15   #5
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W.E.G your funny. Next time I post, will you proofread my thread? I know you Virginians are super intelligent..
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:05   #6
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338 is impressive but costly to feed. Cabela's asks $120 for a box of 20. Sure you can do a better elsewhere but it is not 30 cents a shot like M193.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:46   #7
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A bolt-action .308 is fun, and I have two of them. Savage 10FP for playing sniper and bench accuracy fun. And a Remington model 7 for humping the hills during hunting season.

I have a Saiga version of the AK that is nice.

But I gotta tell you, I love my new AR I've avoided them for years because they are expensive and not really needed by me because I also have a bolt .223. But they are so cool!

I went with a heavy full rifle and stainless bull barrel. Maybe some day I'll get a shorty m4 carbine, of the 2 I tried of a friend's before buying, I much more liked the rifle.

People had been telling me on GT for years to get an AR. So now I'm telling you. Get an AR
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:24   #8
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I think I heard that on The Phil Donahue Show before.
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:27   #9
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338 is impressive but costly to feed. Cabela's asks $120 for a box of 20. Sure you can do a better elsewhere but it is not 30 cents a shot like M193.
Yeah, that pretty much makes the caliber useless for most folks. .308 is a lot cheaper at Walmart and for many years, was the choice for most American snipers and deer hunters alike.
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Old 11-18-2012, 16:19   #10
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Unless you have regular access to a range with over a 600 yard line and are comfortable with intermediate level reloading, the 338 Lapua would be a waste of money. You should go with something in 308.
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Old 11-18-2012, 16:49   #11
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AR, then bolt action .308.

Colt LE6920 or LE6721.
Remington 700 SPS AAC-SD
Remington 870 HD 12 ga.

Magazines.
Ammo. Lots of ammo.
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Old 11-18-2012, 17:30   #12
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OP doesn't have his state listed so it is impossible to tell what his "needs" are; is he in say W Verginny where the deer rarely weigh over 100 lbs dressed, then the 338 Lapua Magnum would be like hitting a fly with sledgehammer. Is he in Wyoming hunting antelope, then the 5.56 wouldn't be my choice either.

I hunt exclusively with a 7mm Rem Mag in a Rem 700 BDL and I hand load so I can tailor a load for anything from a groundhog to an elk, any semi-auto is dependent on chamber pressure to function properly limiting loads you can use.
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Old 11-18-2012, 20:06   #13
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I vote for .308... It can be had in an AR style or a very many bolt actions, and can be used for essentially all game minus the dangerous stuff along with being superbly accurate and affordable to shoot...

The Lapua is a wee bit much... It's expensive to buy box, or handload for and the power is just redundant... My Brother broke out his .338 Edge today... Its a little bit stronger than the Lapua, but in the same basic class... After 5 1/2 thousand lbs. muzzle energy, it's 300 grain bullet is still cruising @ 2,000 fps at the 1000 yard mark -- it's a whammer...

The .308 just makes alot of sense and does alot of things well.. Upon second thought, you could get the AR style in new 6.8 Rem or the well respected .260... Three very solid choices right there in your rifle of interest...
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Old 11-19-2012, 14:11   #14
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I have the AK covered. Want an AR but thinking a long range rifle may be a wiser choice.
If your looking to get into long range shooting look no further than the 300 Win Mag. I'd recommend the Remington 700 Police model, Badger Ordnance Base, Either Nightforce Rings or Leupold Mark 4 Rings and a Nightforce NXS Scope or Leupold Mark 4 and a Harris Bipod with Swivel Loc. Then you'd have to find a good load i'd recommend 190-210 SMKs at around 2850-3000 fps for starters. You be looking at around 3 grand when all is said and done! The great thing i love about the 300 is there is a TON of military data on it, It's very cheap when compared to the 338 lapua, And performance wise it smokes a 308 Winchester and doesn't cost much more to reload! I've shot my 300 out to 1500 yards, The 308 Win is a good 800 yard rd but that's about it!
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Old 11-20-2012, 13:56   #15
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For me, no doubt, an AR. Daniel Defense, BCM or Colt.

And then pimp it out with a light, AFG/VFG and RDS/HWS.

But that's me.
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Old 11-20-2012, 15:24   #16
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Put me in the AR column as well. Get as much AR as you can afford, dress it up how you like, then spend the next year enjoying and learning that platform.

Once you've shot so much 5.56 that you are totally bored, look into a quality .308 - maybe even an AR in .308.

I'd avoid the top notch, long-range calibers unless you have boat loads of money or see yourself routinely shooting 300+ meters.
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