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Old 12-01-2012, 13:18   #41
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Single stack 9? My dream is the service-size single stack 45. Eight or nine rounds with the thinner grip frame and slide......wonderful, I would think! Then a G19 sized 7 rd for off duty...PERFECT!
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Old 12-01-2012, 13:35   #42
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You guys who are big enough to cram a Shield into your pocket should have not problem concealing a 19/23 IWB. Can someone help me understand this?
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Old 12-01-2012, 14:36   #43
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You guys who are big enough to cram a Shield into your pocket should have not problem concealing a 19/23 IWB. Can someone help me understand this?
I don't have a shield but the shield is considerably smaller and lighter than a 19/23. .75" slide length, .4" height, .18" width and 4.8 ounces lighter (19 to 9mm Shield) is a huge overal difference.
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Old 12-01-2012, 14:44   #44
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If you want a single stack Glock consider the Walther PPS. Very nice carry pistol. Thin, not heavy and a very glock-like trigger. I bought one recently, put several hundred rounds through it and I'm quite happy. Food for thought.
That's what I use. With a Crossbreed holster, I often forget it's there.
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Old 12-01-2012, 16:09   #45
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Well, seeing how Glock is making pistols in the USA now, maybe Glock will make guns domestically that it couldn't import before. Like a SS 9mm, or .380s.
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Old 12-01-2012, 20:52   #46
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we can all dream..

Go get a single stack 45. Glock 36
I agree wholeheartedly on both accounts. Dreaming and the G36. While the former is prizless, the latter goes for $550. Both are affordable.
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Old 12-02-2012, 19:48   #47
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I know we are on Glock Talk, but can any compare the recoil of a Kel Tec PF 9 to the 9mm Shield?
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:54   #48
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The problem with the Shield is that it's a Smith & Wesson. Smith and Wesson changes models and generations of semi-auto pistols like most of you change your socks. Sadly, in a couple years the Shield will be replaced by a newer, better model that surprisingly will require different mags, holsters, accessories. You get the picture.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:00   #49
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I know we are on Glock Talk, but can any compare the recoil of a Kel Tec PF 9 to the 9mm Shield?
Nearly identical, however the Shield does have less perceived
recoil & muzzle flip. The Shield's trigger is MUCH better.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:09   #50
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The problem with the Shield is that it's a Smith & Wesson. Smith and Wesson changes models and generations of semi-auto pistols like most of you change your socks. Sadly, in a couple years the Shield will be replaced by a newer, better model that surprisingly will require different mags, holsters, accessories. You get the picture.
True with most US made cars and trucks.
Still does not stop anyone buying them!
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:16   #51
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A great singe stack 9 is the Kahr CM9 got mine OTD for $420. It has been 100% reliable love the size and weight it is perfect for pocket carry in a Sticky Holster. I also love my Gen 4 G19 FDE too but too big for me to carry.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:35   #52
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I'd love to see a single stack 9mm from glock, but they need to fix the BTF/Erratic ejection issues before introducing any new models.
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Old 12-03-2012, 22:02   #53
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I'd love to see a single stack 9mm from glock, but they need to fix the BTF/Erratic ejection issues before introducing any new models.
I agree shot my Gen 4 G19 FDE today and love the gun but got BTF several times with light Russia Loads I thougt I would try. My Kahr CM9 shot them with no problems and usually Kahr are picky!
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Old 12-03-2012, 22:33   #54
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I see no need for single stack 9. The 26 is plenty small enough, holds 10 rounds, plus I can use 15 & 17 mags. What more do you need? A 26 is easy for most people to conceal and other single stacks 9s aren't that much smaller. At least not enough for me to give up rounds.
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:18   #55
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Why would Glock want to make a single stack 9 when the market is already flooded with them and no interest from military or police? The single stack 45 isn't flying off the shelves in my area.
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:33   #56
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I picked up a Beretta Nano. $379 before taxes. 2 mags, etc. 150 flawless rounds so far and that includes Blazer Aluminum 115 gr FMJ. 8 round mags are 'sometimes' available from Beretta. Holsters are available. Night sights can be bought too and are easily installed by the user. It's built like a tank. Also has OD, FDE replacement frames available and can be switched by the user. More rounds and it will be in the carry rotation. I CAN pocket carry it AND draw from large pocket pants. In an IWB, it seems to disappear. I liked the Shield, but it has a safety...I KNOW you don't have to use it, etc., etc.
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:48   #57
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If I need something smaller than my 26, I just drop a revolver in my pocket. Don't have to fire 200 rounds before I can trust it and know it will go bang no matter how I'm holding it.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:47   #58
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M&P Shield

I've had my Shield in 9mm for several months, now. It is hard to get, even though S&W had a large number completed before the release. This is a great little off-duty or back-up gun. I carry it in both capacities. In the summer, it conceals very well IWB and in baggy shorts pockets. You can't do that easily with a G26.

I agree with what others have said about Gaston missing the boat on the single stack concealable pistols. S*W may have gotten in late, but the demand for their Shied is quite high. I have a number of Officers who can not find the, even on LE deals.

Further, I've been a Glock guy since the early 90's, having carried 1911's, S&W Gen 3 .45's and .357 revolvers from the time I entered LE in 1977. However, based on the ergonomics, I have replaced all caliber of Glocks, except 9mm, with S&W M&P's. Those pistols are in .40 and .45, except the Shield. I'll never get rid of my G19's.
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Old 12-04-2012, 13:06   #59
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The problem with the Shield is that it's a Smith & Wesson. Smith and Wesson changes models and generations of semi-auto pistols like most of you change your socks. Sadly, in a couple years the Shield will be replaced by a newer, better model that surprisingly will require different mags, holsters, accessories. You get the picture.

Ohh you mean like this magazine?
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...layErrorView_N

The one that fits the Model 59 introduced in 1970 and fits the 5906TSW still in production in 2002?

I agree that S&W has introduced different models over the years but they seem to try to keep magazines interchangeable when they can.
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:15   #60
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I cant figure why we cant get the .380 here
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