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Old 11-14-2012, 14:31   #1
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a petition to reactivate the CCC

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/reactivate-civilian-conservation-corp-and-permit-citizens-serve-nation-personal-service/1VRthGJx


I need a 150 signatures to make it visible on the White house list. What the hell , sign it if you will. i still love you guys.
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Old 11-14-2012, 14:39   #2
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Never heard of the CCC. Why was it deactivated?



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Old 11-14-2012, 14:42   #3
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Never heard of the CCC. Why was it deactivated?



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...ervation_Corps
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Old 11-14-2012, 14:48   #4
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Ironically, a couple of weeks ago, I was out driving in the mountains and came upon an old building site that was huge.

Some photographer was there and he explained that it was the site of a CCC camp. He pointed out exactly where all of the tents were, the mess hall, etc.
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Old 11-14-2012, 15:08   #5
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WW2 ended it, essentially a group of young people were organizes in squad sized groups and taught various skills of life and work. They recieved modest pay but great life rewards building many National Parks among other things/

The military ran them well
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Old 11-14-2012, 15:31   #6
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Government funded makework jobs are the very last thing we need.
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Old 11-14-2012, 15:37   #7
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Government funded makework jobs are the very last thing we need.
agreed...we have enough DMV employees as it is.
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Old 11-14-2012, 15:51   #8
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Government funded makework jobs are the very last thing we need.
That's right, we are better off just giving the "unemployed" government money for nothing.....why should they have to work. Also, they should NOT have to take a drug test to get their "free" money.....that would be unamerican. With so many smart ideas, I can't understand why this country is having such a hard time!
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Old 11-14-2012, 15:54   #9
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Yes, as others have said, more government is the @#% answer.
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Old 11-14-2012, 16:04   #10
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Doubt it would work. Back then people would work any job to feed their family, not so much these days.
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Old 11-14-2012, 16:07   #11
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Why build something useful rather than parks that never pay taxes nor produce anything tangible?

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Old 11-14-2012, 16:22   #12
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Yes, as others have said, more government is the @#% answer.
Not sending jobs to China is the answer. Until then CCC is better than nothing.
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Old 11-14-2012, 17:21   #13
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I vaguely remember my dad talking about working in a CC Camp here in Michigan. Planting trees and building roads.
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Old 11-14-2012, 17:30   #14
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Not sending jobs to China is the answer. Until then CCC is better than nothing.
No.

It's far, far worse than nothing. It's the purest form of socialism, to "create" a job out of nothing and pay for it by confiscating the resources from someone who produces.

The CCC destroys wealth. Taking money from some and giving it to others in exchange for work that has no value is destructive to America.

As for sending jobs to China, I've posted about that topic many times before. When an American can provide better value for their wages than a Chinese worker can--and there are many ways to do so, from shorter lead times to lower transportation costs to less turnover to higher skill levels--then the American worker gets the job. When an American worker demands higher wages for a job that someone somewhere else can do more cheaply, the job leaves. It's simple economics. Some jobs go away--when's the last time you met a travel agent? Others are created. The world changes.
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Old 11-14-2012, 17:31   #15
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My Grandfather was a member of that before WWII.
I have his CCC footlocker as well as his WWII Army issued one.
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The person who profits from this law will complain bitterly, defending his acquired rights. He will claim that the state is obligated to protect and encourage his particular industry; that this procedure enriches the state because the protected industry is thus able to spend more and to pay higher wages to the poor workingmen.

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Old 11-14-2012, 17:38   #17
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I would like to see it as a mandatory program to receive government assistance.... turn it into a Workfare program.
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Old 11-14-2012, 17:47   #18
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No.

It's far, far worse than nothing. It's the purest form of socialism, to "create" a job out of nothing and pay for it by confiscating the resources from someone who produces.

The CCC destroys wealth. Taking money from some and giving it to others in exchange for work that has no value is destructive to America.

As for sending jobs to China, I've posted about that topic many times before. When an American can provide better value for their wages than a Chinese worker can--and there are many ways to do so, from shorter lead times to lower transportation costs to less turnover to higher skill levels--then the American worker gets the job. When an American worker demands higher wages for a job that someone somewhere else can do more cheaply, the job leaves. It's simple economics. Some jobs go away--when's the last time you met a travel agent? Others are created. The world changes.

Yep..
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Old 11-14-2012, 18:39   #19
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To me, the CCC is the Civilian Chaos Corp.
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Old 11-14-2012, 18:44   #20
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I figure do away with welfare, and make them work for their money. I'd much rather them actually doing something, and get a check, instead of sitting at home doing nothing and get a check.
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Old 11-14-2012, 18:50   #21
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I would like to see it as a mandatory program to receive government assistance.... turn it into a Workfare program.
While I completely agree with this concept, we all know full well that such a program would instantly be branded by liberals as a form of slavery.
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Old 11-14-2012, 19:02   #22
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We have a state park built in large part by the CCC. It is pretty nice, beautiful lodge..........however after all these years, the state claims to not have the money to run it anymore, so now they are toying with the idea of closing it.
We have come full circle.

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Not a horrible idea. Heck we are already paying many of the potential candidates. And nobody says they have to just due what the original CCC did, although our infrastructure could use the help. There is always work that needs to be done.


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Old 11-14-2012, 20:42   #25
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Not a horrible idea. Heck we are already paying many of the potential candidates. And nobody says they have to just due what the original CCC did, although our infrastructure could use the help. There is always work that needs to be done.


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Exactly. We're already paying them, why not make them work for the money?
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