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Old 11-14-2012, 19:32   #1
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No quality ammo on a progressive press

At least.... according to this guy.

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show...58&postcount=9

I replied with lots of sarcasm, just wanted you guys to all know you needed a single stage and LOTS of hours to make good ammo.



(It was not an original post, but actually post #9 in this thread: http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show...1#post19631921)
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Old 11-14-2012, 19:39   #2
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Except for benchrest every match I have won was with ammo loaded on a progressive.

Must be one of thoes "it takes forever so it must be better" guys.

They are relatives of the kids that put a fart pipe on moms old 4 cyl and then think its fast.
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Old 11-14-2012, 22:10   #3
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I added my 2 cents with proof.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:21   #4
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I have a Hornady L&L, but that doesn't men you have to use it as a progressive 100% of the time.

Some times I use it as a single stage, other times as a 2-3 stage and other times as a full progressive but hardly ever. But I do agree with quality>quantity.
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:26   #5
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He forgot to tell David Tubb that I guess.....
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*shrugs and goes back to making 223 ammo that shoots like Boxer's on his Dillon 650*

No matter where you go, there will always be people that know what they know, no matter WHAT the facts are!
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I have a Hornady L&L, but that doesn't men you have to use it as a progressive 100% of the time.

Some times I use it as a single stage, other times as a 2-3 stage and other times as a full progressive but hardly ever. But I do agree with quality>quantity.
And if you're saying quality is not possible with a progressive press when being used as *full* progressive... I'd put you in the same clueless boat he's floating around in.

He's the captain, you can be the first mate.

That's the POINT! If you start off slow and learn the craft, one is fully capable of producing QUALITY ammo on a progressive press. Period. It's possible to have quality AND quantity.

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Old 11-15-2012, 13:00   #8
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600 yards prone w/sling (no rest of any kind) iron sights, 20 rounds (standard slow fire course) 3.5" group. Obviously an ammunition quality problem prevented really good performance. Or maybe not. Dillon 550

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Old 11-15-2012, 13:07   #9
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Well, many people just don't know what they don't know. I am sure he has never made ammo on a progressive.
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Old 11-15-2012, 13:09   #10
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I have a Dillon 550 because I like to shoot, not waste time on a bench.
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Old 11-15-2012, 14:47   #12
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I have not loaded ammo on a single stage press or used hand dies in years.

Guess I am guess lucky when my rifle ammo hits 8-12 inch plates out past 1,000 yards.
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I have not loaded ammo on a single stage press or used hand dies in years.

Guess I am guess lucky when my rifle ammo hits 8-12 inch plates out past 1,000 yards.
Don't you use a little arbour press of some sort for your long range ammo?
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I have not loaded ammo on a single stage press or used hand dies in years.

Guess I am guess lucky when my rifle ammo hits 8-12 inch plates out past 1,000 yards.
Yep, I know what you mean, just can't be done
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Don't you use a little arbour press of some sort for your long range ammo?
Used to. For long range ammo I have been using nothing but my 550s and Prometheus for a couple years now.

My 1050s are for rifle ammo inside 600 yards.
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Old 11-15-2012, 16:34   #16
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I just recently got into reloading. I bought the Dillon 650.

I wish I would have done this, years ago. I would be ammunition rich right now.
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Old 11-15-2012, 17:20   #18
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Some or the majority of the bench guys go to extremes trying to make each load absolutely perfect and identical right down to hand polishing their brass. When I first started reloading I thought I would like to get into bench shooting but soon got tired of going to the range for an hour and only shoot off 5 rounds. I still have that rifle (Remy 700 PSS) with big time scope. But now I just prefer to shoot off 100+ rounds in 30 minutes or so on my Colt AR-15. Moral of the story..... to each their own IMHO.
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If you can't make accurate ammo on a good progressive, you are doing something wrong. The dies are the same, a good press is rigid enough, the ammo will be as accurate as ammo that comes of a quality ss press. It's been proven far too many times for pistol & rifle.
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Old 11-16-2012, 05:26   #20
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Since I bought my 650 my world has changed. Started on the trusty but slow Rock Chucker, then tried Lee 1000. Just not whatI was looking for in a progressive (I still use it for 9mm, takes longer but still produces). Then the shock and awe effect, Dillon 650 pumps out hundreds of rounds with remarkable consistance. Load 40 SW with it and swear the ammo is better more accurate than some store bought. Don't know what I would do with out it. Kinda like your car breaking down and have to take the bus. ( YUK )
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