Home Forums Classifieds Blogs Today's Posts Search Social Groups



  
SIGN-UP
Notices

Glock Talk
Welcome To The Glock Talk Forums.

 
  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-14-2012, 05:33   #1
jetflier1989
Member
 
jetflier1989's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Land of the Free-Home of the Brave
Posts: 68
Which .45 acp round?

I have a chance on a deal for 180 rounds of Corbon 230gr +P HP (not DPX) or 200 rounds of Hornady XTP 230gr +P. I can't afford both. I want to use them for hunting hogs, maybe backup SD and HD from a G30sf. Which one should I buy? Anybody familar with any of these rounds? Thanks.

EDIT: Based on the responses below I'm going to buy the XTP's for PD, HD only as they are a good deal and look into a different non HP round for the hogs. I trust the advice on here and I am still not too old to learn. Thanks.
__________________
Gen3 - G30sf, Gen3 - G19
Kimber Custom .45 acp, Kimber TLE/RL II .45 acp
S&W Combat Masterpiece, Sig Sauer P228, S&W Model 60-7, S&W Model 19-3.

Last edited by jetflier1989; 11-15-2012 at 05:08..
jetflier1989 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2012, 07:17   #2
Kentguy
Senior Member
 
Kentguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Kent, OH
Posts: 1,059
Jetflier1989,

I am not familiar with the Corbon 230g +P HP however I am with the Hornady 230g XTP +P HP round.

I have tested the Hornady rounds out for myself and found them to be very consistent and extremely accurate out of my G21, from 7 yards out to 25 yards.
Hornady "Custom" Ammunition
230g XTP HP +P
Velocity - Box listed @ 950 fps / 887.6 fps my 5 shot average @ 75 degrees
Standard Deviation - 6.58027
OAL - 1.230"

Here is another test conducted with there Hornady rounds;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ct33...zgGcOtlJ-Y8%3D

Good luck.
__________________
"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"
—Rudyard Kipling

Last edited by Kentguy; 11-14-2012 at 07:23..
Kentguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2012, 08:09   #3
SCmasterblaster
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Hartford, Vermont
Posts: 16,034
I'd opt for the CorBon

They have a long-standing reputation for fine high-velocity cartridges.
__________________
Gun Ownership Offers Freedom in Many Dimensions
SCmasterblaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2012, 12:23   #4
9mm +p+
Senior Member
 
9mm +p+'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: KS
Posts: 2,429
Hog hunting would require lot's of penetration, I'd go with the XTP personally.
__________________
Si vis pacem parabellum
9mm +p+ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2012, 13:37   #5
SCmasterblaster
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Hartford, Vermont
Posts: 16,034
Quote:
Originally Posted by 9mm +p+ View Post
Hog hunting would require lot's of penetration, I'd go with the XTP personally.
You got that right, pal. Hog hide is tough.
__________________
Gun Ownership Offers Freedom in Many Dimensions
SCmasterblaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2012, 21:30   #6
Ak.Hiker
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Homer Alaska
Posts: 2,325
I do not think you could go wrong with either load. CB at one time loaded the XTP bullet and after that the Gold Dot as well as Sierra. You may want to look to see what bullet the CB's are loaded with.
Ak.Hiker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2012, 22:29   #7
CanyonMan
In The Saddle
 
CanyonMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 5,906
Quote:
Originally Posted by jetflier1989 View Post
I have a chance on a deal for 180 rounds of Corbon 230gr +P HP (not DPX) or 200 rounds of Hornady XTP 230gr +P. I can't afford both. I want to use them for hunting hogs, maybe backup SD and HD from a G30sf. Which one should I buy? Anybody familar with any of these rounds? Thanks.

I would prefer a whole different set up for hogs, BUT since this is what your asking about, I would go with the XTP. They get really great penetration, and if ya just got to use a G30 and HP's, that would, IMO, be the best of the two loads you ask about.

Also for SD on 2 legged stuff, The 230gr XTP, and the WW 230gr PDX1 are both great rounds.. Both get great penetration !

Good luck.





CanyonMan
__________________
You boy's saddled this bronc, now let's see if you can ride it.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.


Jesus said: You who are without sin cast the first stone.. John 8: 7
CanyonMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2012, 01:42   #8
WinterWizard
Senior Member
 
WinterWizard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,377
Neither. Why would you hunt hogs with JHPs? I would get some +P FMJs or some +P semi wad cutters, like those from Buffalo Bore or similar. You want penetration, not expansion.
WinterWizard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2012, 05:10   #9
jetflier1989
Member
 
jetflier1989's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Land of the Free-Home of the Brave
Posts: 68
Thanks guys. I responded on my original post. Check above.
__________________
Gen3 - G30sf, Gen3 - G19
Kimber Custom .45 acp, Kimber TLE/RL II .45 acp
S&W Combat Masterpiece, Sig Sauer P228, S&W Model 60-7, S&W Model 19-3.
jetflier1989 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2012, 12:53   #10
SCmasterblaster
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Hartford, Vermont
Posts: 16,034
Quote:
Originally Posted by jetflier1989 View Post
Thanks guys. I responded on my original post. Check above.
For whatever you select for SD, let's hope that you won't have to use it.
__________________
Gun Ownership Offers Freedom in Many Dimensions
SCmasterblaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 23:19   #11
Ak.Hiker
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Homer Alaska
Posts: 2,325
If you are looking for a top quality 230 grain FMJFP check out the Buffalo Bore loading. It is a +P. Double Tap just came out with a Nosler FMJFP in 45 Auto as well. I have run the BB load in my Glock 36 and as well as DT 230 grain round nose. I have not tried their FP load yet.
Ak.Hiker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 23:54   #12
M 7
Senior Member
 
M 7's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,110
Between the two, I'd go with the XTP.

It is a very tough bullet and well suited to hog hunting.
__________________
For those who CCW:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.
M 7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2012, 06:23   #13
jetflier1989
Member
 
jetflier1989's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Land of the Free-Home of the Brave
Posts: 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by M 7 View Post
Between the two, I'd go with the XTP.

It is a very tough bullet and well suited to hog hunting.
I ended up with the XTP's yesterday. However I found some extra money and might grab the Corbon's too.

But getting back to the hunting aspect...There seems to be two different schools of thought on it as far as with the use of certain hp's or going stricly with fmj rds. I guess the best way to find out is to call a few of the outfitters down in Florida where I plan to hunt. I'm sure there are guidelines set forth, for the hunters safety and the pig's humane as well?
__________________
Gen3 - G30sf, Gen3 - G19
Kimber Custom .45 acp, Kimber TLE/RL II .45 acp
S&W Combat Masterpiece, Sig Sauer P228, S&W Model 60-7, S&W Model 19-3.
jetflier1989 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2012, 06:49   #14
SCmasterblaster
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Hartford, Vermont
Posts: 16,034
The CorBon 185gr JHP in .45 ACP is another very hot round.
__________________
Gun Ownership Offers Freedom in Many Dimensions
SCmasterblaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2012, 21:30   #15
Ak.Hiker
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Homer Alaska
Posts: 2,325
One thing about the 45 acp 230 grain flat point FMJ +P load is it is very close in power to the old 45 Colt standard loads. One would think they both would have similar penetration on game. It goes over 30 inches in wet newsprint compared to about 18 inches for the 230 XTP +P.
Ak.Hiker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2012, 22:31   #16
CanyonMan
In The Saddle
 
CanyonMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 5,906
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ak.Hiker View Post
One thing about the 45 acp 230 grain flat point FMJ +P load is it is very close in power to the old 45 Colt standard loads. One would think they both would have similar penetration on game. It goes over 30 inches in wet newsprint compared to about 18 inches for the 230 XTP +P.


Good thought there amigo... Hey pard how ya doin my good friend / !

I was trying to stay away from "straying" off the question the OP ask, so I stayed with his two choices, and went XTP.

BUT, everyone here who knows me, knows that I highly reccomend to him to go with a Hard Cast bullet.

I am not highly familiar with all the factory offerings, because I reload my own. But as a former guide, I can say I would not suggest the 45acp for hogs in the first place, and n the second place, If I were to to it, (and I have done my share as well OP), I always load up a hard Cast bullet. A 225gr/255gr, HC bullet goes end to end through white tail, in a M1911 45acp. It does a good deal of damage on hogs, but not as good as it could, and there are better caliber choices) Get the heaviest HC bullet for that 45acp you can feed through it, (if you just 'have' to use it), and I assure you, you are in FAR better shape than a JHP.

I merley answered your question (op) between your two choices, but, amigo the HC bullet is going to be your best bet in a 45acp or any caliber for that matter. !

Buffalo Bore offers a 255gr HC bullet at 960fps in a 5" 1911.
https://www.buffalobore.com/index.ph...t_detail&p=214

In your G30 with a heavier recoil spring you will be fine!

Listen, In my little G36 I load 230gr XTP's at 907fps with the stock spring ! Got over 1500 rounds through it and never one burp of any kind, nor any damage to the gun.. I see no reason at all your G30 (and I have owned several of those) will not eat up that BB HC bullet, and especially with a 22# spring from Wolff ! NO problem !

That is my 'best" suggestion to you, and based on experience. I answered your original question out of courtesy , but feel you would be best served to just forget the JHP's and frankly I would try and at least get a different caliber IMO, like 44mag.

Best of luck to you, and good hunting !







CanyonMan
__________________
You boy's saddled this bronc, now let's see if you can ride it.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.


Jesus said: You who are without sin cast the first stone.. John 8: 7

Last edited by CanyonMan; 11-19-2012 at 08:48..
CanyonMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2012, 13:58   #17
SCmasterblaster
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Hartford, Vermont
Posts: 16,034
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ak.Hiker View Post
One thing about the 45 acp 230 grain flat point FMJ +P load is it is very close in power to the old 45 Colt standard loads. One would think they both would have similar penetration on game. It goes over 30 inches in wet newsprint compared to about 18 inches for the 230 XTP +P.
Getting the .45 ACP to perform like the old .45 Long Colt cartridge takes some doing.
__________________
Gun Ownership Offers Freedom in Many Dimensions
SCmasterblaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2012, 17:06   #18
Kentguy
Senior Member
 
Kentguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Kent, OH
Posts: 1,059
SCMasterBlaster... "Getting the .45 ACP to perform like the old .45 Long Colt cartridge takes some doing."


well not exactly, These two factory loads, with respect to ballistics, are nearly identical;

.45 ACP - 230 gr (15 g) Federal Hydra-Shok Velocity - 900 ft/s (270 m/s) Energy - 414 ft·lbf (561 J)

.45 Colt - 230 gr (15 g) XTP Hornady velocity 969 ft/s (295 m/s) Energy 480 ft·lbf (650 J)

Lots of load information these days out there to close the gap between these two cartridges.
__________________
"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"
—Rudyard Kipling
Kentguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2012, 17:15   #19
SCmasterblaster
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Hartford, Vermont
Posts: 16,034
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kentguy View Post
SCMasterBlaster... "Getting the .45 ACP to perform like the old .45 Long Colt cartridge takes some doing."


well not exactly, These two factory loads, with respect to ballistics, are nearly identical;

.45 ACP - 230 gr (15 g) Federal Hydra-Shok Velocity - 900 ft/s (270 m/s) Energy - 414 ft·lbf (561 J)

.45 Colt - 230 gr (15 g) XTP Hornady velocity 969 ft/s (295 m/s) Energy 480 ft·lbf (650 J)

Lots of load information these days out there to close the gap between these two cartridges.
Wow, the velocity on that second (XTP) load is awesome!
__________________
Gun Ownership Offers Freedom in Many Dimensions

Last edited by SCmasterblaster; 11-19-2012 at 17:19..
SCmasterblaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2012, 17:26   #20
SCmasterblaster
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Hartford, Vermont
Posts: 16,034
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kentguy View Post
SCMasterBlaster... "Getting the .45 ACP to perform like the old .45 Long Colt cartridge takes some doing."


well not exactly, These two factory loads, with respect to ballistics, are nearly identical;

.45 ACP - 230 gr (15 g) Federal Hydra-Shok Velocity - 900 ft/s (270 m/s) Energy - 414 ft·lbf (561 J)

.45 Colt - 230 gr (15 g) XTP Hornady velocity 969 ft/s (295 m/s) Energy 480 ft·lbf (650 J)

Lots of load information these days out there to close the gap between these two cartridges.
Who makes these loads?
__________________
Gun Ownership Offers Freedom in Many Dimensions
SCmasterblaster is offline   Reply With Quote

 
  
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:10.




Homepage
FAQ
Forums
Calendar
Advertise
Gallery
GT Wiki
GT Blogs
Social Groups
Classifieds


Users Currently Online: 862
262 Members
600 Guests

Most users ever online: 2,672
Aug 11, 2014 at 2:31