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Old 09-22-2013, 16:17   #101
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If they think they made a mistake in choosing the GAP they need to LIVE WITH IT and not correct it with taxpayer money!!!!!

Glocks are made to last a long time. Maybe in 30 years they can get new guns!!!!
Relax about the taxpayer's money. Those guns were most likely traded even up for the issue guns they had. Aside from that they will probably swap even up for the Glock 21's. It benefits Glock to have major law enforcement agency utilizing their weapons, you know.

It's a win for Glock, a win for the PASP, and a win for the taxpayers.

Also, and most importantly, the PA troopers will have a gun in which they have confidence to stake their lives on.
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Old 09-22-2013, 16:53   #102
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If they think they made a mistake in choosing the GAP they need to LIVE WITH IT and not correct it with taxpayer money!!!!!

Glocks are made to last a long time. Maybe in 30 years they can get new guns!!!!


As a LEO myself, and Pennsylvania resident I am glad to see PSP make the switch. Like stated above, there is no money involved so stop crying about taxpayer money, it will be an even swap.
There was no mistake made, it's a matter of availability and cost of ammunition in the current times. If anything, you should be happy they are making the switch to SAVE your taxpayer money on the cost of ammunition.
More ammo. = more practice time, a good thing for everybody.

You seem really concerned about taxpayer dollars going to waste. Maybe you should complain to the politicians in the Federal Govt. who are throwing all of our money away by giving it to foreign countries by the hundreds of thousands.
Also be sure to complain about giving the money you work for away to someone who is to lazy to get a job and sits at home collecting public assistance for their entire life.
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Old 09-23-2013, 12:02   #103
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You seem really concerned about taxpayer dollars going to waste. Maybe you should complain to the politicians in the Federal Govt. who are throwing all of our money away by giving it to foreign countries by the tens of billions.
Also be sure to complain about giving the money you work for away to someone who is to lazy to get a job and sits at home collecting public assistance for their entire life.
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Old 11-29-2013, 07:27   #104
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Word is that they have switched to Gen 4 G 21s, can anyone confirm?
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Old 11-29-2013, 07:57   #105
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Smart move! There's a reason the SpecOp community is returning to the .45. It works. I love my Gen 4 21! Holds a lot of rounds, accurate, and puts big holes in things.
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:21   #106
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Blah, blah, blah, who gives a crap what the PA state police are doing
I do. When a member takes the time to post gun experiences, some of us appreciate it. How about you rain in.

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Old 11-29-2013, 08:27   #107
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Word is that they have switched to Gen 4 G 21s, can anyone confirm?
They are currently in PSP holsters.
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Old 11-29-2013, 09:18   #108
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Word is that they have switched to Gen 4 G 21s, can anyone confirm?
My last issue of The Communicator (PSP Newsletter), the commissioner confirmed the G21 with tactical light attached. Believe the holsters are Safariland, but don't quote me on that part.
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Old 11-29-2013, 09:54   #109
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If they think they made a mistake in choosing the GAP they need to LIVE WITH IT and not correct it with taxpayer money!!!!!

Glocks are made to last a long time. Maybe in 30 years they can get new guns!!!!
As suggested it may not be a costly or taxpayer funded issue. But just to make sure you should probably petition the legislature to make sure they do not spend money in a manner you do not think is appropriate.
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Old 11-29-2013, 12:44   #110
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Old 11-29-2013, 16:13   #111
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Pulled over today for DOT check and when finished got on the subject of Glocks which they have G 37 in the Gap. The officer said they are testing G21 in 45acp right now . and he did not care for the old Beretta 40 cal they had . The officer was courteous .Every thing was good on my spot check.

WHY would they have adopted the .45GAP (one would assume after some degree of testing, though it IS Pennsylvania - isn't that a TV)?
The .45GAP is the BETTER choice for anyone wanting "stock" performance from the .45ACP/GAP "family" (sorry ACP lovers your GAP cousins have indeed come to town and are moving in!)
The GAP is the same frame size as the 9mm/.40/.357Sig family...meaning it fits a lot of hands really well. The GAP fires a round ballistically IDENTICAL to the ACP - slightly more potent actually, which tends to mean "better" to everyone but die-hard 1911 .45ACP worshipers who each and every one carry small "Gris gris" bags around their necks filled with metal shavings from the original JMB prototype, along with a tiny sliver of JMB's pubic hair (ran out of head hair) in order that they be blessed by the Zorastrian Gods of big bluntness!
However...the GAP is THE Glock .45 pistol too carry! Why in Atch-EE-double toothpicks would they want to change it?!?


Sounds spurious.
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Old 11-29-2013, 16:21   #112
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My last issue of The Communicator (PSP Newsletter), the commissioner confirmed the G21 with tactical light attached. Believe the holsters are Safariland, but don't quote me on that part.
I believe the light is an surefire x300. Good move on the state police to go to the g21.

Hope you are enjoying your retirement in TN.
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Old 11-29-2013, 18:33   #113
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My last issue of The Communicator (PSP Newsletter), the commissioner confirmed the G21 with tactical light attached. Believe the holsters are Safariland, but don't quote me on that part.
Yes, the holsters are Safarilands and the lights are Surefire X300 Ultras.

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Old 12-19-2013, 08:57   #114
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The newer Gen 4 G21 is a great choice. The G37 Gen 4 is a pleasure to shoot. Very accurate. The Illinois cop got rid of his G21 for a G17 for a reason!
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WHY would they have adopted the .45GAP (one would assume after some degree of testing, though it IS Pennsylvania - isn't that a TV)?
The .45GAP is the BETTER choice for anyone wanting "stock" performance from the .45ACP/GAP "family" (sorry ACP lovers your GAP cousins have indeed come to town and are moving in!)
The GAP is the same frame size as the 9mm/.40/.357Sig family...meaning it fits a lot of hands really well. The GAP fires a round ballistically IDENTICAL to the ACP - slightly more potent actually, which tends to mean "better" to everyone but die-hard 1911 .45ACP worshipers who each and every one carry small "Gris gris" bags around their necks filled with metal shavings from the original JMB prototype, along with a tiny sliver of JMB's pubic hair (ran out of head hair) in order that they be blessed by the Zorastrian Gods of big bluntness!
However...the GAP is THE Glock .45 pistol too carry! Why in Atch-EE-double toothpicks would they want to change it?!?


Sounds spurious.

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Old 12-19-2013, 09:44   #116
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I just checked ammo prices on SGAmmo.com, one of my sources with good prices. I can't do direct comparisons due to differences in the stock for GAP and ACP, but I can't really see any significant differences in the ammo prices. In some cases, you could say the .45 ACP costs more.
Typical GAPper nonsense. Very first place I checked for a direct comparison...
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/produc...p-hollow-point

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/produc...p-hollow-point

Only a $10 difference, with 45GAP being higher.
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Old 12-19-2013, 09:53   #117
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Second place I looked for direct comparison, and 45GAP $3 more per box. Not to mention the ammo choices and selections aren't even in the same league.

http://www.sgammo.com/product/sellie...ad-description

http://www.sgammo.com/product/sellie...mo-limit-20-bo
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Blah, blah, blah, who gives a crap what the PA state police are doing
What is it with newbs trolling others threads
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Old 12-19-2013, 13:50   #119
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I suppose if I was to ever buy a GAP it would have to be a used G39, preferably with some department markings, assuming G39s were ever issued.
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Old 12-19-2013, 14:27   #120
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Smart move! There's a reason the SpecOp community is returning to the .45. It works. I love my Gen 4 21! Holds a lot of rounds, accurate, and puts big holes in things.






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