[Dragoon44]

Originally Posted by tantrix

And, I rest my case.


I knew right off the top of my head that truck driving and construction are 2 occupations more dangerous then LE before even reading the list, and yet...we had someone try to one-up for LEO's and bring up that LE has more "assaults".

Classic.

LE does have more assaults that is simply a fact. So is the fact that there is a difference between the risk of accidental death do to the nature of the job and the risk of being maimed or murdered intentionally.

[JuneyBooney]

Originally Posted by Ohio Copper

Lord no! I'm much uglier in person!


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Well, your white part looks cool. Nice smile too.

[JuneyBooney]

Originally Posted by Dragoon44

LE does have more assaults that is simply a fact. So is the fact that there is a difference between the risk of accidental death do to the nature of the job and the risk of being maimed or murdered intentionally.

I don't know Dragoon. What if we classified "drug dealing" as an occupation? Wouldn't that be more dangerous than anything else? There are places that I see on the news each noght where the drug dealers are getting whacked each night. But I am talking in "jest" of course.

[JuneyBooney]

Originally Posted by Dragoon44

LE does have more assaults that is simply a fact. So is the fact that there is a difference between the risk of accidental death do to the nature of the job and the risk of being maimed or murdered intentionally.

I don't know Dragoon. What if we classified "drug dealing" as an occupation? Wouldn't that be more dangerous than anything else? There are places that I see on the news each night where the drug dealers are getting whacked each night. But I am talking in "jest" of course.

[Sharky7]

Originally Posted by Sharky7

You are acting like a skell in an interview who keeps trying to change the topic or sidestep.

This thread is about your claims of LE. Settle it up.

[Dragoon44]

Originally Posted by JuneyBooney

I don't know Dragoon. What if we classified "drug dealing" as an occupation? Wouldn't that be more dangerous than anything else? There are places that I see on the news each noght where the drug dealers are getting whacked each night. But I am talking in "jest" of course.

Independent pharmacological entrepreneurs didn't make the list.

[tantrix]

Originally Posted by Dragoon44

LE does have more assaults that is simply a fact. So is the fact that there is a difference between the risk of accidental death do to the nature of the job and the risk of being maimed or murdered intentionally.

And not what the article was about, it was about the number of fatalities while on the job....not about being assaulted or being hunted down after you get off.


Ah well...I wasn't part of that one, didn't even have to post 1 reply (but yeah I won't lie..I wanted to).

[Sharky7]

Originally Posted by tantrix

And not what the article was about, it was about the number of fatalities while on the job....not about being assaulted or being hunted down after you get off.


Ah well...I wasn't part of that one, didn't even have to post 1 reply (but yeah I won't lie..I wanted to).

Isn't there a thread going on right now in GNG where you can posts your thoughts on this?

You know what this thread is about?

[tantrix]

Originally Posted by Sharky7

Isn't there a thread going on right now in GNG where you can posts your thoughts on this?

You know what this thread is about?

Hell, we all need to get in on that one...looks like a whole lot more questions need answering than the one about me.

[JuneyBooney]

Originally Posted by Dragoon44

Independent pharmacological entrepreneurs didn't make the list.

You have to be kidding. They seem to have a real short life expectancy around here. Either dead or in jail.

[Dragoon44]

Originally Posted by tantrix

And not what the article was about, it was about the number of fatalities while on the job....not about being assaulted or being hunted down after you get off.


Ah well...I wasn't part of that one, didn't even have to post 1 reply (but yeah I won't lie..I wanted to).

The initial post by the OP was about the article, but post number two took it in another direction.

on top of that claiming that assaults are irrelevant is simply absurd when estimating the dangers of a job.

2010 over 56,000 assaults on Police officers 26% resulting in injury to the officer. even if only 10% were assaults with intent to kill that would be 5,600 homicidal assaults which failed their objective for various reasons, one being the officer prevailing in the encounter and preventing that outcome.

[Sharky7]

Originally Posted by tantrix

Hell, we all need to get in on that one...looks like a whole lot more questions need answering than the one about me.

This thread here is ALL YOURS though. Let's settle it up already - no reason not to.

[RussP]

Originally Posted by tantrix

And, I rest my case.

I knew right off the top of my head that truck driving and construction are 2 occupations more dangerous then LE before even reading the list, and yet...we had someone try to one-up for LEO's and bring up that LE has more "assaults".

Classic.

You are dangerous...to yourself, to those real cops around you. Sad part, you do not know it and will never accept it. Oh, and yes, I've known your type in the past. One almost got me killed. He was relieved of duty.

[tantrix]

Originally Posted by Dragoon44

The initial post by the OP was about the article, but post number two took it in another direction.

It took another direction because bait was set, and somebody bit.

Originally Posted by Dragoon44

on top of that claiming that assaults are irrelevant is simply absurd when estimating the dangers of a job.

2010 over 56,000 assaults on Police officers 26% resulting in injury to the officer. even if only 10% were assaults with intent to kill that would be 5,600 homicidal assaults which failed their objective for various reasons, one being the officer prevailing in the encounter and preventing that outcome.

Wait, are you actually going to argue that that list (and every other list I've ever seen) is wrong because they mistakenly left something out??

Are you letting Rabbi log in under your account?

Originally Posted by RussP

You are dangerous...to yourself, to those real cops around you. Sad part, you do not know it and will never accept it. Oh, and yes, I've known your type in the past. One almost got me killed. He was relieved of duty.

My opinion, on the internet or not, is not indicative of how I perform on the job...any job. I would say the same for everyone else...hell, some here I wonder how they even hold a job. I'd assume they keep work at work, and home at home...that's how I do it.

[JAY-TX]

Originally Posted by RussP

You are dangerous...to yourself, to those real cops around you. Sad part, you do not know it and will never accept it. Oh, and yes, I've known your type in the past. One almost got me killed. He was relieved of duty.

Just because he thinks there are other jobs out there more dangerous than LE makes him a danger to "real" cops.

Please.

[holesinpaper]

Originally Posted by Sharky7

Isn't there a thread going on right now in GNG where you can posts your thoughts on this?

You know what this thread is about?

So the next time you show up in GNG I can just tell you to go back to coptalk?

Hmmm, I might grow to like that kinda thinking

I bid thee adieu. Back to GnG where I apparently belong.

[Ohio Copper]

Originally Posted by JAY-TX

Just because he thinks there are other jobs out there more dangerous than LE makes him a danger to "real" cops.

Please.

He's a danger to police because he's mentally unstable.


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[Ohio Copper]

Originally Posted by holesinpaper

So the next time you show up in GNG I can just tell you to go back to coptalk?

Hmmm, I might grow to like that kinda thinking

I bid thee adieu. Back to GnG where I apparently belong.

I know it's difficult but try to keep up.


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[Dragoon44]

It took another direction because bait was set, and somebody bit

The OP was bait to begin with. it was posted by one of your fellow traveler libertarian types.

Wait, are you actually going to argue that that list (and every other list I've ever seen) is wrong because they mistakenly left something out??

Interesting that you claim to be a veteran LEO yet your reading comprehension is so feeble. And your logic so weak.

it's rather mind boggling that someone (particularly someone in LE) can believe that assaults are irrelevant in estimating the level of danger in a job simply because the attacker failed to kill their intended target.

The inanity of such a view is that it essentially claims that any unsuccessful attempt to kill an officer due to the officers ability to prevent it is irrelevant to estimating the danger of the job. And Only if the officer is actually killed does it reflect the degree of danger in the job.


As for what I think about the statistics I already had my say on the methodology in the thread in question.

[Rabbi]

Originally Posted by JAY-TX

Just because he thinks there are other jobs out there more dangerous than LE makes him a danger to "real" cops.

Please.

Hey Jay, welcome to the thread. You are another turd who will lie to shore up your position. I find it ironic that you are so willing to lie, or at least prove you dont know what you are talking about or pay very close attention while accusing other people of not being very smart.

Until people like you learn to get your provable facts straight, is it any wonder few take your opinions very seriously.

Case in point, I challenge you (I will give a 1000 dollars to glock talk) if you can find anywhere, ever, that I said I was a doctor of any kind.

You wont, because I never did. My wife is quite the renowned surgeon....and that you will find. But people like you cant be bothered with facts when you want to bolster your opinion.

You are also a person without honor.

[Sharky7]

Originally Posted by holesinpaper

So the next time you show up in GNG I can just tell you to go back to coptalk?

Hmmm, I might grow to like that kinda thinking

I bid thee adieu. Back to GnG where I apparently belong.

Slow down and re-read it again without any bias of what you believe it means.

This thread is about Tantrix and his claims of being in LE. Which is why I posted what you quoted - to try to keep it on task.

If Tantrix wants to talk about an issue there is already an active thread about - why not post in that thread (regardless of what section of Glocktalk it is in).

[Sharky7]

Originally Posted by Sharky7

This thread is about your claims of LE. Settle it up.

So what is the excuse today of why you can't post the MMA face holding the duty belt?

[tantrix]

Originally Posted by Dragoon44

The OP was bait to begin with. it was posted by one of your fellow traveler libertarian types.

Well, first off the OP isn't the one who made the first comment about LEO's, but either way...I don't know the OP or the guy who made the comment.

Originally Posted by Dragoon44

it's rather mind boggling that someone (particularly someone in LE) can believe that assaults are irrelevant in estimating the level of danger in a job simply because the attacker failed to kill their intended target.

The inanity of such a view is that it essentially claims that any unsuccessful attempt to kill an officer due to the officers ability to prevent it is irrelevant to estimating the danger of the job. And Only if the officer is actually killed does it reflect the degree of danger in the job.


As for what I think about the statistics I already had my say on the methodology in the thread in question.

I find it mind-boggling you refuse to accept the list is based on fatal work injuries, which LE is not among the top. This has been known for...well, quite a long time now, and not even debatable.

I don't know about you, but I damn sure feel safer in LE than I would being on one of those big-ass boats fishing on rough seas in the middle of the night.

[Ohio Copper]

Originally Posted by Sharky7

So what is the excuse today of why you can't post the MMA face holding the duty belt?

Quotes for clarity. And so he doesn't miss it.


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[Sharky7]

Settle it up