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11-15-2012, 14:18
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Originally Posted by eb07
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What does all that mean?
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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11-15-2012, 14:19
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#302
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Street Person
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..and the grand prize is!
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Dear God, this is one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard. It's got to rank right up there with CALEA. -Pepper45
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11-15-2012, 14:22
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#303
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Fenced In
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blueiron
..and the grand prize is!
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Originally Posted by series1811
The first round is a moral decision. All of the following rounds are tactical decisions.
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11-15-2012, 14:22
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#304
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RussP
What does all that mean?
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It's an analysis of the photo to check to see if it has been altered.
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Here's a toast to our wives and to the women we loved. <pause> May they never meet.
The M1 Garand rifle is the best battle implement ever devised by man.
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11-15-2012, 14:24
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Sharkin'
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m2hmghb
It's an analysis of the photo to check to see if it has been altered.
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Pretty much. Both photos have been altered. The software determines that by analyzing the metadata contained in the photo. This does not include the simple task of resizing. The actual layers were altered. He is a great photchopper.
The only way I will believe Keith is if he posts his match results and we can see some images from sources other than him. If he fights MMA and wins... there should be some. Especially seeing the second one looks like some promotional photo he chopped his head onto.
Last edited by eb07; 11-15-2012 at 14:28..
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11-15-2012, 14:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m2hmghb
It's an analysis of the photo to check to see if it has been altered.
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Altered as in how? To what extent?
I shot a wedding once where a bridesmaid would not smile during the group photo session. I called a break with everyone staying in place. She smiled. I captured the image. In post-processing, I transplanted that smiling face onto her none smiling face in the otherwise fantastic group photo.
To what extent were these photos altered?
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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11-15-2012, 14:29
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Sharkin'
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RussP
Altered as in how? To what extent?
I shot a wedding once where a bridesmaid would not smile during the group photo session. I called a break with everyone staying in place. She smiled. I captured the image. In post-processing, I transplanted that smiling face onto her none smiling face in the otherwise fantastic group photo.
To what extent were these photos altered?
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Take the software program I linked to and run it on the original and altered one and see what comes up. I could not tell you that answer.
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11-15-2012, 14:36
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#308
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NRA, SAF
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I know virtually nothing about photoshopping. Is it possible that the characteristics of the photos could be altered by transforming them from, say, a newspaper picture, through a scanner, then uploading online? In other words, what all can comprise "altering"?
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Last edited by oldgraywolf; 11-15-2012 at 14:36..
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11-15-2012, 14:37
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#309
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eb07
Take the software program I linked to and run it on the original and altered one and see what comes up. I could not tell you that answer.
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Guess what? We only have the images Tantrix posted.
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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11-15-2012, 14:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oldgraywolf
I know virtually nothing about photoshopping. Is it possible that the characteristics of the photos could be altered by transforming them from, say, a newspaper picture, through a scanner, then uploading online? In other words, what all can comprise "altering"?
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No.
Taking a photographic print from a negative, a print, a printed source, and then digitizing it will encode it as an original digital image. Resizing merely changes the dimensions.
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Dear God, this is one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard. It's got to rank right up there with CALEA. -Pepper45
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11-15-2012, 14:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RussP
Guess what? We only have the images Tantrix posted.
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And where did he go, anyways? 
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Remember every day that you don't train or workout, a bad guy does.
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11-15-2012, 14:44
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Sharkin'
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Well, here are my two issues....
1. Why is the ref and the other fighter cut out of the first photo? Too much to chop? Whose identity is he protecting at a public event?
2. A clearly promotional photo (#2) would have some meta data regarding a camera and or filemaker. Most professional photogs have their camera traces in their digital images. Even if resized as the photo indicates.
Take it for what you want, but it is very suspicious. In todays digital age for a "professional" mma fighter there should be no reason to have to scan something..... especially with the level of media at these events and the promoters taking photos. Even the piss pot mma events in my neck of the woods have promo flyers with photos of fighters in pro/ams and such.
I could be completely wrong, but all the evidence points to a sham... he can prove me wrong simply, or drone on with excuses like he has been.
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11-15-2012, 14:48
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Sharkin'
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11-15-2012, 14:49
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From the pic data I'm assuming he is "Keith".
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Quote:
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Did he have a warrant to use that taser?
From what I've learned in the Boston bombing threads, you must always have a warrant. For anything.
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11-15-2012, 14:50
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Lifetime Newbie
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blueiron
..and the grand prize is!
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I'm glad he hasn't been promoted to whacker yet. The pay raise and increased sense of self-worth might go to his head... 
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"Fire up the roof."
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Originally Posted by k9medic
Remember every day that you don't train or workout, a bad guy does.
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Last edited by golls17; 11-15-2012 at 14:51..
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11-15-2012, 14:57
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#316
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Street Person
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oldgraywolf
In other words, what all can comprise "altering"?
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In PS [photoshop], a digital or digitized image is altered by 'layers'. Let's say a wedding photographer gets a wonderful candid shot, but the lighting is too cool [bluish] or too warm [red]. The photographer can correct the color shifting by adding a 'layer' that corrects the photo to a pleasing tone.
Likewise, an digitized image of your maternal grandparent's wedding photo in the pre-digital era can be altered by digitizing it, then layering a digital image of you over the original image, and then layering an antiquing or vintage tone to the now three layer thick image. Now, the image can be printed or turned into a jpeg [or similar] image that shows you at your maternal grandparent's wedding in the 1940s, long before you were born.
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Imported from the future in 1984. Returned to the past in 2007
Dear God, this is one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard. It's got to rank right up there with CALEA. -Pepper45
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11-15-2012, 15:04
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You mean I'm not allowed to be anybody I want on the internet? So much for my masquerade as Fat Emo Spiderman.
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11-15-2012, 15:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eb07
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He retired in 2011...
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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11-15-2012, 15:07
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I have one question..
What color is the Boathouse at Hereford?
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How do you establish intent?
Well when a naked man is chasing a woman down an alley with a butcher knife and a hard on, I figure he's not collecting for the red cross...Inspector H. Callahan
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11-15-2012, 15:10
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Sharkin'
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RussP
He retired in 2011...
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I emailed them and asked if they could provide me with a list from 2010 and 2011 
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11-15-2012, 15:10
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Street Person
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayhem like Me
I have one question..
What color is the Boathouse at Hereford?
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I can answer that only if you tell me what color the cafeteria is at Semipalatinsk-21.
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Imported from the future in 1984. Returned to the past in 2007
Dear God, this is one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard. It's got to rank right up there with CALEA. -Pepper45
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11-15-2012, 15:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eb07
I emailed them and asked if they could provide me with a list from 2010 and 2011 |
You're good!
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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11-15-2012, 15:12
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#324
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Sharkin'
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I just want to know now. Every response has been vague. He has trolled me into digging. I am bored.
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11-15-2012, 15:14
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#325
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Lifetime Membership
Unfair Facist
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayhem like Me
I have one question..
What color is the Boathouse at Hereford?
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